Ann Coulter upsetting people....again

CDNBear

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So, if a person engages in terrorism in the name of Islam, it is reasonable for us to blame Islam; yet if someone does the same in the name of Christ, it is not reasonable for us to blame all Christians?
I should have clarified my answer, sorry.

Only in the reaction in the community

My answer would be that in neither case is it reasonable to blame the Faith or its founder for the atrocities of their supposed followers.
Why not?

I'm responsible for my childs actions.
You seem to be saying that it depends what Faith we're talking about.
Not At all. It depends solely on the reaction of the community.

No bias there, eh!
Actually there is, but it doesn't cloud my judgment. And btw, I'm not Christian.
 

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But to respond to the original statement. Do we really want to be known as a nation of crybabies, who would ban someone for a joke?

It is not even that offensive. It is actually pretty mild compared to some jokes. Nobody should be banned from speaking, otherwise you have a fascists/communist country, or at least a tyrannical state, regardless of politics.

If you can't express your opinion, you aren't free, and if you aren't free, you are serving someone without thought to it. Unless we as Canadians should blindly follow our leaders in lockstep, these kinds of people are a good thing.

But I'm not specifically defending Coulter, but rather, her right to say things like this.

"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
What joke are you talking about Libertarian?, her website i full of hate propaganda against minorities, and Canada included. Are you a sleep walker?
There is no joke to tell another Human being I want you under the bus not on it. Do u understand that?
 

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"As for Coulter's academic education, let's not forget that Goebels had a Ph.D."

And let us not forget that for an even more convincing argument that Obama has a Harvard education. And sadly, he is far more like Goebbels, and has far more power than Ann Coulter.
 

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What joke are you talking about Libertarian?, her website i full of hate propaganda against minorities, and Canada included. Are you a sleep walker?
Please sight examples, with the section of the CCoC in which the commentary is in violation of.
There is no joke to tell another Human being I want you under the bus not on it.
:lol:
 
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Machjo

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Why not?

I'm responsible for my childs actions.

So if you should teach our child to love his neighbour, and he commits murder, it's your fault?

Yes, both a parent the community are responsible for his child's spiritual education, but in the end, once that child reaches the age of maturity, assuming he has received adequate education in knowing right from wrong, then he is responsible for his own actions, isn't he?
 

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She said Canada was the least diverse country she's seen — which brought objections from the audience, but she pointed out that everyone in the crowd looked like she did.

I think she missed the point - that only means that she only appeals to people like her.

Reminds me of a guy I worked with, who described a girl as 'just the kind I like: blonde, big tits, and really, really, really dumb'.
 

Machjo

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I read somewhere that Soddam Insane was a pretty bright guy, too.

And the speaker of the famous words 'is our children learning?' had graduated from Harvard with an MBA.

Ok, Ok, to be fair, his major was not grammar, so how could we possibly have expected him to know about subject-verb agreement?
 

CDNBear

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So if you should teach our child to love his neighbour, and he commits murder, it's your fault?
Until they are of age, yes. I am financially libel, and I can be held criminally libel for his/her actions.

Yes, both a parent the community are responsible for his child's spiritual education, but in the end, once that child reaches the age of maturity, assuming he has received adequate education in knowing right from wrong, then he is responsible for his own actions, isn't he?
Yes, but what if the community fosters the negative behavior, because they turn a blind eye, promote myths and fail to inform or hinder the authorities?
 

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"I absolutely agree with a person's right to holler "Fire" in a crowded theatre.....................as long as there is in fact a fire. I'm pretty Liberal minded when it comes to freedom of speech, but would draw the line at where a falsehood would do damage to an innocent person."

To follow your allegory, there IS a fire in the theatre, Ann Coulter is only bringing attention to it.

And she is doing it in a witty, humourous way, that only the chip-on-the-shoulder bleeding hearts could find untrue and/or offensive.

I'm not sure "allegory" is the word you are looking for. I think you'll find that in Aesop's Fables.
 

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I read somewhere that Soddam Insane was a pretty bright guy, too.

I don't know about his formal education, but apparently he was a secondary school teacher for some time. Reading his biography, it appears he had close and friendly ties with the US government too:lol:
 

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Yes, but what if the community fosters the negative behavior, because they turn a blind eye, promote myths and fail to inform or hinder the authorities?

That's why I'd stipulated the assumption that he'd received the education needed to distinguish right from wrong. We do have a public universal compulsory education system in this country that does teach the rule of law. Though we could argue whether that is enough to make him amoral person, I would say it is enough to make him at least recognize the consequences of disobeying the law. So unless some special circumstance prevented him from receiving such an education, I'd say he's responsible for his own actions regardless what others around him do.
 

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"Until they are of age, yes. I am financially libel, and I can be held criminally libel for his/her actions."

Pardon me, CDNBear for being so bold as to question your superiority you so gloatingly claimed earlier, did you by any chance mean "LIABLE" when carelessly and incorrectly, twice used the word "libel"?
 

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Not that I expect you to understand most of this but here you go.
Look Annag , "not that I expect you to understand most of this but here you go" to me it looked like you were telling me that I was wrong in stating that Jefferson was a Republican thinker.
Sorry if I offended u :lol: