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Gordon J Torture

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Jay, you would be free 100% to say anything you want.

As far as the financial side, you are free to do anything which does not grant you significant power over anyone else. Unfortunately, money is power, and the availability to exploit that power always proves too hard to exist. The opportunity to have "wealth" over another human, is not true freedom, it is enslavement. The one with the wealth is an enslaver. People simply redefine, their morals and values, gradually during their lives and then from generation to generation until they are completely guilt free in their warped perceptions.
 

The Philosopher

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"Communism" is a word that refers to anarchy government. There are different forms of it. You have your Ayn Rand/Robert Nozick Communists. You have your Jean-Paul Satre Communists. You have your Leninist Communists. You have you Mao or Stalinist Communists.

Communism is the end, an anarchy government. What it is an the methods of getting there is an ideology. Most of our ideologies today are based on Communism (Socialism and Libertarianism).
 

Gordon J Torture

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***************A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.

That is the basic, and only significant definition of communism. Do not allow, those who called themselves socialists, who had alterior motives, to redefine the meaning of the word.
 

Jay

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It doesn't sound like I was led astray to far then. Under "true" communism I can't achieve my potential in life...but I can talk about it.....


I think since people like to call me a neo-con....I'm going to start using the term neo-communist.

Under this neo-communist point of view the only thing that has changed is your speech rights got a little better.
 

Gordon J Torture

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It doesn't sound like I was led astray to far then. Under "true" communism I can't achieve my potential in life...but I can talk about it.....

If you really beleive that your most significant "potential in life" is financial gain, and to have power over other humans, than that is a very sad thing to hear.

It is disrespect to yourself, and disrespect to humanity.
 

Jay

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There’s nothing more disrespectful than leaving your children an inheritance of substance, and reaching for the sky, and paying your employees a nice wage.

You go ahead and live the communist way...just don't force it on the likes of me.....because that bloodless revolution you wish for, isn't going to happen. People like me will resist neo-communism.
 

Gordon J Torture

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I really do NOT see how the ability to have more wealth, oppornity, and power than your fellow man, is a way of "maximizing one's potential" ... Is that all you think we are good for? .. Maybe that's all Bush is good for, but not I.
 

Gordon J Torture

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There’s nothing more disrespectful than leaving your children an inheritance of substance, and reaching for the sky, and paying your employees a nice wage.

Why would an inheritance and "nice wage" be significant, if an excellent quality of life was guaranteed, and the possibility of being the "bottom of the barrell" or having less opportunity than anyone else was impossible.

If all your needs were met, including intellectually, and no man had more opportunity then yourself, why would you feel that your potential is not met? .. Why would you feel the need to have power over other humans to fulfill your so called potential?

You are thinking in terms of our current system, and applying it to something else. It does not make sense. It seems to me, that greed has total control over why you can not answer any of my questions. You have not even tried without answering something different than i asked. I answered your questions did I not? I had enough respect to do so.

I dont think you will be able to provide a sensible anwser anytime soon because something is holding you back from everything clicking in your mind. Well, 2 things are holding you back.

1. Greed
2. Fear
 

Jay

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Gordon J Torture said:
This is not a neo-communist point of view, this an ancient communist point of view.


OK, retro-neo-communist.
 

Vanni Fucci

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We have such a long way to go, humanity. I'm wondering what force will eventually unite us all.

All now hearken to the wisdom of Vanni!!!
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Gordon J Torture

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The force of knowledge will unite us all. The people who have seen the worst in our country, who's views and cultural background are similar enough to relate to, need to be educated. Then, they need to actually communicate regularly with people with views like you. Soon, everyone will get the idea.

I am not talking about propaganda either, I am talking about non-bias knowledge.
 

EagleSmack

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Gordon J Torture said:
It doesn't sound like I was led astray to far then. Under "true" communism I can't achieve my potential in life...but I can talk about it.....

If you really beleive that your most significant "potential in life" is financial gain, and to have power over other humans, than that is a very sad thing to hear.

It is disrespect to yourself, and disrespect to humanity.

But what is cool is that when you show yourself as an obedient "Party Member" you get more materialistic things and benefits. For those who think there is no class structure in any Communist Govt., old and new, once again has bit into the Communist lie of a Working Peoples Government. Communism is a certain class of people making all of the decisions for the masses. If you disagree... its off to prison and re-education camps.
 

Gordon J Torture

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Eagle, in recent times, there has never been a communist country, only Countries who called themselves such. You are just doing the whole propaganda routine.
 

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Gordon J Torture said:
The force of knowledge will unite us all. The people who have seen the worst in our country, who's views and cultural background are similar enough to relate to, need to be educated. Then, they need to actually communicate regularly with people with views like you. Soon, everyone will get the idea.

I am not talking about propaganda either, I am talking about non-bias knowledge.

Knowledge is the beginning, Gordon. Not the end.
 

Jay

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"If you disagree... its off to prison and re-education camps."

I would be it's prisoner, and Gordon J "Torture" would be running it.