I don't know where you guys get your information, but much of it is not from a credible source.
An Angle Straight to Hell.
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Being the only one, who against constant criticism still believes in something, definately shows originality.
Ha, we did not grow out of it, we were conquored out of it, manipulated out of it, and killed out of it.
The problem is GJT... true communism ends up working like an ant hill or a bee hive. You have a series of workers, gathers, defenders,et al... working to serve the queen (or leader). This while ensuring the survival of the colony is not fair in the long run. A hierarchy more a kin to the monarchies we have seen in the past. That is why a true communist society has never existed. Its within in its nature to form a society that is run from the top down. Sure you have eliminated money from the equaution, but it is now directly based upon power. This leaves no alternative for those at the bottom of community, no matter how educated they are.
The other problem is work load. Let's face it some people, by nature are lazy. How is it fair to the people that are diligent workers to see someone who works less get the same proportion of benefits doled out. What generally happens is that the hard workers eventually wise up and stop working so hard. This causes the system to be less efficient.( Less production means less food, for example.) This leaves two options...watch production spiral down until there is a revolt....or to enforce that everyone is working to there maximum capability (secret police).
That is the problem of "true Communism"
The other problem is work load. Let's face it some people, by nature are lazy. How is it fair to the people that are diligent workers to see someone who works less get the same proportion of benefits doled out. What generally happens is that the hard workers eventually wise up and stop working so hard. This causes the system to be less efficient.( Less production means less food, for example.) This leaves two options...watch production spiral down until there is a revolt....or to enforce that everyone is working to there maximum capability (secret police).
That is the problem of "true Communism"
Yes, you pay so much taxes, that children are freezing in their own homes in the middle of winter.
Yes, you work so hard, that noone gets paid less than you unless they are just really lazy and dont break a sweat right?
I get it ...
Are you kidding me?
Some of the first discoveries in astronomy, mathematics, architecture etc, happened in communist societies that lasted for thousands of years until they were destroyed and conquered by power hungry morons using religion, greed and fear to convince masses of people to do their bidding. . What a about the Celtics, and the ancient druids? Even Certain eras of ancient Egypt.
They lived in harmony far longer the USA or Canada has even existed, and we are already falling apart.
None of the things any of you are saying have any facts to them.
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Keep it up Jay, I hear its feeding time at the zoo this Saturday.
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Sorry ITN, its not an order of old people. You would fit in regardless though...we would be happy to have you. There are plenty of gray hair types involved.
Keep it up Jay, I hear its feeding time at the zoo this Saturday.
Whatever Jay, just as is the way of democracy, you secure your greed by wasting all energy on the insignificant.
It is easy to follow the heard, than to stand alone, and stand up by yourself for what you beleive in, without your pets to pat you on the back and praise you.
It intersting as well, that out of all the things all of you said, not one of you actually posted a factual reason or anwser to back up any of your supposed beliefs.
All you do is yap about BS.
It is easy to follow the heard, than to stand alone, and stand up by yourself for what you beleive in, without your pets to pat you on the back and praise you.
It intersting as well, that out of all the things all of you said, not one of you actually posted a factual reason or anwser to back up any of your supposed beliefs.
All you do is yap about BS.
It isn't my fault the government has gun registries instead of providing warmth to the poor.Gordon J Torture said:
Gordon J Torture said:
There are plenty of people who don't work as hard as I do and make far more than I....it's called none of my business.
The Druids had a heirarchy that went from the top down. Same with the Celts. Even there mythology had a heirarchy that was lead from the top down. Most,if not all, tribal societies have had a leadership system of some kind. Usually based on the best provider. It was the pharohs that built the pyramids...how? ...you guessed it on the backs of workers. That is not decision by commitee that is a Lord/Serf relationship. Which is identical to a bee hive.
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Oh come on ITN...I said you were old, not bear food....besides there can't be that much meat on those old rickety bones.... Really, don't be so hard on yourself.
I think not said:Jay said:I think not said:
Sorry ITN, its not an order of old people. You would fit in regardless though...we would be happy to have you. There are plenty of gray hair types involved.
Keep it up Jay, I hear its feeding time at the zoo this Saturday.
Oh come on ITN...I said you were old, not bear food....besides there can't be that much meat on those old rickety bones.... Really, don't be so hard on yourself.
Zen, there were different eras of Ancient Egypt.
The celts didn't really have leadership, they had jobs. They had Nobels, warriers and farmers.
Druids were nobels. The intellectuals and philosophers, they also had musicians, bards, poets, and keepers of some sort.
It was by definition a communism.
The celts didn't really have leadership, they had jobs. They had Nobels, warriers and farmers.
Druids were nobels. The intellectuals and philosophers, they also had musicians, bards, poets, and keepers of some sort.
It was by definition a communism.
The Druids were lead by a Warrior/King. They had a hierarchy that ran through their society. Just like an ant hill.
The Celts and I quote The elements of Celtic Tradition by Caitlin Matthews.
" The state of the land was always a reflection of kingly rule. If the king was harmonious with his duties and obligations, then the land flourished."
That to would be an early monarchy, with an individual leader at the top.
As for Egypt... As their religion indicates a power structure that stems down from the top. It is likely that early Egyptian societies would follow that pattern. Why would your gods be subject to a hierarchy if the worshippers weren't ?
The Celts and I quote The elements of Celtic Tradition by Caitlin Matthews.
" The state of the land was always a reflection of kingly rule. If the king was harmonious with his duties and obligations, then the land flourished."
That to would be an early monarchy, with an individual leader at the top.
As for Egypt... As their religion indicates a power structure that stems down from the top. It is likely that early Egyptian societies would follow that pattern. Why would your gods be subject to a hierarchy if the worshippers weren't ?