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If that is the best carnage can come up with, he is doomed. The vote they are about to have amounts to a pleblecite, which is little more than asking taxpayers which way the might want the government to go. Has zero to do with their platform.
Which the majority voted for. And for the most part are happy with, even though it probably cost carnage money personally.
Look who appointed the judge.
Natives get to vote yes too. With land and oil/gas,/mineral rights owned by Natives they'd own the Rez not the Crown because it would be a Republic of Alberta.
Eventually first nations will be the majority and look back saying "Holy fuck ah, fuckin whitie set us up good.". Anyways.
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Alberta separatist leader pushes fall referendum Option 2 vote to give premier leverage with Ottawa
'Voting for Option 2 gives the premier leverage. Voting Option 1 is a surrender'
Author of the article:Cindy Tran
Published Sep 20, 2026 • Last updated 1 hour ago • 2 minute read
The Canadian flag and an Alberta provincial flag fly together in Cochrane.
The Canadian flag and an Alberta provincial flag fly together in Cochrane. Photo by Gavin Young /Postmedia
Even those opposing Alberta separation should vote Option 2 on the fall ballot, arming Premier Danielle Smith with leverage to make constitutional reforms with Ottawa, separatist advocate Keith Wilson told a Sunday forum hosted by former Reform Party of Canada leader Preston.
Manning and former B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell co-hosted the Alberta and the West Assembly online forum over two days, hearing an emotional address from Smith on Saturday and Wilson on Sunday. Pro-independence advocates made the case for Alberta’s separation citing grievances over equalization, federal interference, and oil and gas regulations.
Wilson, a lawyer and co-chair of Let Alberta Decide, encouraged all Albertans — even those who are against separation — to vote in favour of Option 2, which asks the government to begin the process to hold a binding referendum on separation. Option 1 asks if Alberta should remain a province in Canada.
“Voting for Option 2 gives the premier leverage. Voting Option 1 is a surrender. It is a message to Prime Minister Carney and Ottawa that Albertans are fine with the current arrangement, that everything’s okay,” Wilson said.
Voting for Option 2 of question 10 is not about agreeing with separation, Wilson stressed, but whether Albertans are happy with the status quo.
Wilson, responding to a question, said a majority vote for Option 2 would “completely take the wind out of the current pushes” for a separatist party.
On Saturday, Smith said she is campaigning for Alberta to remain in Canada and the referendum on separation is framed as it is so as not to detract from the other nine questions on the ballot around immigration and the constitution, issues she is looking to get a mandate on through the referendum.
“I want to really hunker down and focus on my nine, on addressing the nine questions that I’ve put forward. That’s part of the reason I want such a strong mandate there, and I think it gives me leverage.”
Bruce Pardy, a Queen’s University Law professor on leave serving as executive director Rights Probe, earlier on Sunday said there is no way for Canada to fundamentally change how it operates under the current system.
The greatest risk in pursuing Alberta independence, he said, is reproducing the same system it is trying to “escape.”
“To save the country, Alberta must leave the country; only in the face of a political earthquake will Canada face its own deep problem,” Pardy said. “Alberta it is time to go.”
“Part of this is you have to accept a certain degree of risk if you’re going to go down the political revolutionary route,” Pardy said.
ctran@postmedia.com
torontosun.com
'Voting for Option 2 gives the premier leverage. Voting Option 1 is a surrender'
Author of the article:Cindy Tran
Published Sep 20, 2026 • Last updated 1 hour ago • 2 minute read
The Canadian flag and an Alberta provincial flag fly together in Cochrane.
The Canadian flag and an Alberta provincial flag fly together in Cochrane. Photo by Gavin Young /Postmedia
Even those opposing Alberta separation should vote Option 2 on the fall ballot, arming Premier Danielle Smith with leverage to make constitutional reforms with Ottawa, separatist advocate Keith Wilson told a Sunday forum hosted by former Reform Party of Canada leader Preston.
Manning and former B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell co-hosted the Alberta and the West Assembly online forum over two days, hearing an emotional address from Smith on Saturday and Wilson on Sunday. Pro-independence advocates made the case for Alberta’s separation citing grievances over equalization, federal interference, and oil and gas regulations.
Wilson, a lawyer and co-chair of Let Alberta Decide, encouraged all Albertans — even those who are against separation — to vote in favour of Option 2, which asks the government to begin the process to hold a binding referendum on separation. Option 1 asks if Alberta should remain a province in Canada.
“Voting for Option 2 gives the premier leverage. Voting Option 1 is a surrender. It is a message to Prime Minister Carney and Ottawa that Albertans are fine with the current arrangement, that everything’s okay,” Wilson said.
Voting for Option 2 of question 10 is not about agreeing with separation, Wilson stressed, but whether Albertans are happy with the status quo.
Wilson, responding to a question, said a majority vote for Option 2 would “completely take the wind out of the current pushes” for a separatist party.
On Saturday, Smith said she is campaigning for Alberta to remain in Canada and the referendum on separation is framed as it is so as not to detract from the other nine questions on the ballot around immigration and the constitution, issues she is looking to get a mandate on through the referendum.
“I want to really hunker down and focus on my nine, on addressing the nine questions that I’ve put forward. That’s part of the reason I want such a strong mandate there, and I think it gives me leverage.”
Bruce Pardy, a Queen’s University Law professor on leave serving as executive director Rights Probe, earlier on Sunday said there is no way for Canada to fundamentally change how it operates under the current system.
The greatest risk in pursuing Alberta independence, he said, is reproducing the same system it is trying to “escape.”
“To save the country, Alberta must leave the country; only in the face of a political earthquake will Canada face its own deep problem,” Pardy said. “Alberta it is time to go.”
“Part of this is you have to accept a certain degree of risk if you’re going to go down the political revolutionary route,” Pardy said.
ctran@postmedia.com
Alberta separatist leader pushes fall referendum Option 2 vote to give Premier Danielle Smith leverage with Ottawa
Even those opposing Alberta separation should vote Option 2 on the fall ballot, says one separatist leader.
Alberta referendum question phrasing could have major impact on results, poll finds
'When you're asking a double- or a triple-barreled question, it certainly leaves room for doubt'
Author of the article
evon Dekuyper
Published Sep 21, 2026 • Last updated 19 hours ago • 4 minute read
Elections Alberta had a technical media briefing and showed a simulated voting station for the Oct. 19 referendum on Thursday, Sept. 3, 2026.
Elections Alberta had a technical media briefing and showed a simulated voting station for the Oct. 19 referendum on Thursday, Sept. 3, 2026. Shaughn Butts/Postmedia
Many Albertans would have different answers if next month’s referendum questions were to be worded differently, a new survey found.
In an experiment conducted by the Angus Reid Institute, poll results were collected for the 10 existing referendum questions as they will appear on the ballot, and compared with results for the same questions, but phrased according to Angus Reid’s own best practices for polling.
The results showed Albertans’ answers would vary significantly, depending on exactly how the question is asked.
An earlier survey by Angus Reid found one in five Albertans (21 per cent) described them as difficult to understand, while 34 per cent said the questions are very clear, and 43 per cent described them as mostly clear.
“When you think about what one-fifth of the voting population of Alberta would look like, you’re already into potentially hundreds of thousands of potential voters,” said Shachi Kurl, president of Angus Reid.
When separated by age demographic, the data show more than a third of those aged 18-34 found the questions confusing or difficult to understand.
“When you’ve got a third of young Albertans throwing up their hands and saying this is either mostly or completely difficult to follow . . . I think there are big concerns about, first of all, are they going to vote, and do they feel confident in what exactly they’re casting a ballot around?” Kurl said.
With that in mind, Angus Reid researchers sought to find out how Albertans would respond if the questions were posed according to standard polling methodology.
‘There’s questions within questions within questions’
The first question on the referendum, for example, asks Albertans, “Do you support the Government of Alberta taking increased control over immigration for the purposes of decreasing immigration to more sustainable levels, prioritizing economic migration and giving Albertans first priority on new employment opportunities?”
When polled, 62 per cent of participants answered “yes,” 33 per cent answered “no,” and five per cent were unsure.
The existing phrasing asks Albertans multiple questions at once: whether the province should take increased control of immigration, whether immigration levels should be decreased, whether economic migration should be prioritized, and whether Albertans should have first priority for jobs.
When asked each sub-question individually, 56 per cent of those surveyed felt immigration to Alberta should be reduced, while only 46 per cent felt that people already living in Alberta should be given greater priority for new employment opportunities.
Overall, however, 80 per cent of participants disagreed with at least one of the original question’s elements.
“When you’re asking a double- or a triple-barreled question, it certainly leaves room for doubt as to what part of the question people are responding to or answering,” Kurl said.
Alberta referendum simulated voting station
Elections Alberta had a technical media briefing and showed a simulated voting station for the Oct. 19 referendum on Thursday, Sept. 3, 2026. Shaughn Butts/Postmedia
Mount Royal University political scientist Lori Williams said she’s found many people are “just completely overwhelmed” by the wording of the questions.
“The first four questions are very complex and difficult to understand,” she said. “That first question has four questions in it. Two of the (other) questions contradict one another . . . There’s questions within questions within questions.
“It essentially gives the government both control in terms of the question it asks, and control in terms of how it interprets the results,” she said.
Not all questions tested, as some ‘written fairly clearly,’ says pollster
Looking at question eight, which asks Albertans, “Do you support the Government of Alberta working with the governments of other willing provinces to amend the Canadian Constitution to allow provinces to opt out of federal programs that intrude on provincial jurisdiction such as health care, education and social services, without a province losing any of the associated federal funding for use in its social programs?” — those polled were split, with 44 per cent answering “yes” and 44 per cent answering “no.”
However, 58 per cent said they felt provinces receiving federal funding should generally be required to meet the conditions attached to that funding, and 52 per cent said the federal government should be able to reduce or withhold the funding if conditions are not met.
“We didn’t actually even test all of the official ballot questions because some of them were written fairly clearly,” Kurl said.
“But we certainly wanted to better understand and disaggregate some of the most obvious examples of questions that did not read as particularly clear in terms of what people were answering.”
The first survey, which asked about the referendum questions as they are written on the ballot, was conducted from Aug. 10 to 13.
The second survey, which parsed out various aspects of the questions, was conducted from Aug. 26 to Sept. 1. Each surveyed a randomized sample of around 1,000 Canadian adults who are residents of Alberta.
Angus Reid notes a margin of error of ±3 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
torontosun.com
'When you're asking a double- or a triple-barreled question, it certainly leaves room for doubt'
Author of the article
evon DekuyperPublished Sep 21, 2026 • Last updated 19 hours ago • 4 minute read
Elections Alberta had a technical media briefing and showed a simulated voting station for the Oct. 19 referendum on Thursday, Sept. 3, 2026.
Elections Alberta had a technical media briefing and showed a simulated voting station for the Oct. 19 referendum on Thursday, Sept. 3, 2026. Shaughn Butts/Postmedia
Many Albertans would have different answers if next month’s referendum questions were to be worded differently, a new survey found.
In an experiment conducted by the Angus Reid Institute, poll results were collected for the 10 existing referendum questions as they will appear on the ballot, and compared with results for the same questions, but phrased according to Angus Reid’s own best practices for polling.
The results showed Albertans’ answers would vary significantly, depending on exactly how the question is asked.
An earlier survey by Angus Reid found one in five Albertans (21 per cent) described them as difficult to understand, while 34 per cent said the questions are very clear, and 43 per cent described them as mostly clear.
“When you think about what one-fifth of the voting population of Alberta would look like, you’re already into potentially hundreds of thousands of potential voters,” said Shachi Kurl, president of Angus Reid.
When separated by age demographic, the data show more than a third of those aged 18-34 found the questions confusing or difficult to understand.
“When you’ve got a third of young Albertans throwing up their hands and saying this is either mostly or completely difficult to follow . . . I think there are big concerns about, first of all, are they going to vote, and do they feel confident in what exactly they’re casting a ballot around?” Kurl said.
With that in mind, Angus Reid researchers sought to find out how Albertans would respond if the questions were posed according to standard polling methodology.
‘There’s questions within questions within questions’
The first question on the referendum, for example, asks Albertans, “Do you support the Government of Alberta taking increased control over immigration for the purposes of decreasing immigration to more sustainable levels, prioritizing economic migration and giving Albertans first priority on new employment opportunities?”
When polled, 62 per cent of participants answered “yes,” 33 per cent answered “no,” and five per cent were unsure.
The existing phrasing asks Albertans multiple questions at once: whether the province should take increased control of immigration, whether immigration levels should be decreased, whether economic migration should be prioritized, and whether Albertans should have first priority for jobs.
When asked each sub-question individually, 56 per cent of those surveyed felt immigration to Alberta should be reduced, while only 46 per cent felt that people already living in Alberta should be given greater priority for new employment opportunities.
Overall, however, 80 per cent of participants disagreed with at least one of the original question’s elements.
“When you’re asking a double- or a triple-barreled question, it certainly leaves room for doubt as to what part of the question people are responding to or answering,” Kurl said.
Alberta referendum simulated voting station
Elections Alberta had a technical media briefing and showed a simulated voting station for the Oct. 19 referendum on Thursday, Sept. 3, 2026. Shaughn Butts/Postmedia
Mount Royal University political scientist Lori Williams said she’s found many people are “just completely overwhelmed” by the wording of the questions.
“The first four questions are very complex and difficult to understand,” she said. “That first question has four questions in it. Two of the (other) questions contradict one another . . . There’s questions within questions within questions.
“It essentially gives the government both control in terms of the question it asks, and control in terms of how it interprets the results,” she said.
Not all questions tested, as some ‘written fairly clearly,’ says pollster
Looking at question eight, which asks Albertans, “Do you support the Government of Alberta working with the governments of other willing provinces to amend the Canadian Constitution to allow provinces to opt out of federal programs that intrude on provincial jurisdiction such as health care, education and social services, without a province losing any of the associated federal funding for use in its social programs?” — those polled were split, with 44 per cent answering “yes” and 44 per cent answering “no.”
However, 58 per cent said they felt provinces receiving federal funding should generally be required to meet the conditions attached to that funding, and 52 per cent said the federal government should be able to reduce or withhold the funding if conditions are not met.
“We didn’t actually even test all of the official ballot questions because some of them were written fairly clearly,” Kurl said.
“But we certainly wanted to better understand and disaggregate some of the most obvious examples of questions that did not read as particularly clear in terms of what people were answering.”
The first survey, which asked about the referendum questions as they are written on the ballot, was conducted from Aug. 10 to 13.
The second survey, which parsed out various aspects of the questions, was conducted from Aug. 26 to Sept. 1. Each surveyed a randomized sample of around 1,000 Canadian adults who are residents of Alberta.
Angus Reid notes a margin of error of ±3 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
Referendum question phrasing could have major impact on results, poll finds
Many Albertans would have different answers if the upcoming referendum questions were to be worded differently, a new survey found.
