Agriculture being the root of all evil:

Jinentonix

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Here is the EVIDENCE for commitment to agriculture being the root of all evil:

When anthropologists study cultures before and after agriculture, they find that before agriculture, all people in the tribe have equal value. But agriculture makes some farmers, some pot makers (for storing grain), and some are soldiers for guarding surplus (soldiers) ---- inequality is born, as each profession has a different value.
That's only an assumption. We don't know it they assigned different values to each profession or not.

Speaking of soldiers, before agriculture tribes moved around, and had nothing of value.... after we have surplus food for the off-season. Its the reason for war. Large scale War only comes after agriculture.
That's because there are more people to recruit into the various militaries. War has always been about what the other guy has, or is perceived to have. Food, good hunting or fishing grounds, good foraging land, mineral deposits, etc.

What of women? Well they used to be valued gatherers, but after agriculture they are kept inside to have babies, patriarchy is born and women are valued less.
Uh, that being well, WELL after the rise of the agrarian society. Women were still working the fields and in a number of places, still do today.

Before agriculture we are relatively healthy. But once we stay in one spot and farm we pool water, bringing mosquitoes. And we know live close to farm animals --- so the sicknesses they experience, such as the cold and flu, evolve and jump to humans. Our diet also suffers immeasurably (no cavities before we start farming honey and drinking mead).
Alcohol was essential to human survival. Untreated water kills. Ancient peoples understood that drinking water could be deadly, they just didn't understand why. If it wasn't for agriculture and the first alcohols, we would have been wiped out by e-coli and other pathogens in the water.

Then there's the fact that one flood, or one bad crop can wipe out a village (that before agriculture would have just moved to a better spot),
False assumption. Seeds were more varied so when they planted crops, at least some of the harvest was likely to make it.
which gives rise to religion and human sacrifice, etc to appease the gods.
Blaming agriculture for religion is like blaming ancient China for WW2. Ancient humans were appeasing the gods long before agriculture and religion.
And the fact that in only a couple generations they had salinated the earth through irrigation.....and turned a hunter-gatherer's paradise into a desolate wasteland.
A process, as it turns out, that is quite reversible. One man in Africa turned a small part of the southern Sahara desert into a lush, green paradise. 40 years ago when he began his reclamation, he was regarded as the village fool. Not today. Today because of that one man, what was once desert now provides enough food for his entire village with some surplus left over for trading. And the real irony is, the man had no real knowledge of agriculture. He simply used his knowledge from observing nature to harness it and bring the dead back to life, so to speak.

As with almost any human innovation, agriculture is a double-edged sword.
 

Cliffy

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Big city folks never heard of growing your own food. Sad.
What I find interesting is that I post an article by someone to change the subject from Trump and all the conservatives loose their shit. Bunch of brain dead sheeple can't handle alternative views.
 
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taxslave

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What Cliffy needs is a big island with just forests and animals, no farmland and....yes....no logging trucks....
He's suffering something like Flossy...
But in Flossy's case it was a Train....
See the similarity in their respective condition?

Where would he park his tin teepee if a logger didn't make a space for it?

Nooooo nothing of value? Just brainless deadbeat giggling Injuns chasing bumble bees?

They didn't wander they followed their game herd as it migrated that they fought and died for stealing it from another tribe. They were all soldiers. Every last tribe member.

Piss poor hunter/soldiers ended up slaves.

Or worse vegitarians.
 

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That's only an assumption. We don't know it they assigned different values to each profession or not.

That's because there are more people to recruit into the various militaries. War has always been about what the other guy has, or is perceived to have. Food, good hunting or fishing grounds, good foraging land, mineral deposits, etc.

Uh, that being well, WELL after the rise of the agrarian society. Women were still working the fields and in a number of places, still do today.

Alcohol was essential to human survival. Untreated water kills. Ancient peoples understood that drinking water could be deadly, they just didn't understand why. If it wasn't for agriculture and the first alcohols, we would have been wiped out by e-coli and other pathogens in the water.

False assumption. Seeds were more varied so when they planted crops, at least some of the harvest was likely to make it. Blaming agriculture for religion is like blaming ancient China for WW2. Ancient humans were appeasing the gods long before agriculture and religion. A process, as it turns out, that is quite reversible. One man in Africa turned a small part of the southern Sahara desert into a lush, green paradise. 40 years ago when he began his reclamation, he was regarded as the village fool. Not today. Today because of that one man, what was once desert now provides enough food for his entire village with some surplus left over for trading. And the real irony is, the man had no real knowledge of agriculture. He simply used his knowledge from observing nature to harness it and bring the dead back to life, so to speak.

As with almost any human innovation, agriculture is a double-edged sword.

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Danbones

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Agriculture ISN"T the problem
debt based currency funded empires are.