Not your post I didn't like.... It was being third man in. You know ... not minding your own business.
Afghanistan - Taliban not the problem - Pakistan is
- Thread starter Goober
- Start date
Ahhh there is no oil in Afghanistan. 8O
You should read a little history, I assume you have NO idea what the NSDAP was......or of its policies.
And, btw, the USA is the largest economy on earth, one of the freest nations on earth, and our friend and ally............so why not trade with them?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Read and learn
The War Crimes of Saddam Hussein
Read it all, you will find they are no friend of the USA.
You proved nothing other than you have a huge chip on your shoulder.
It's gonna be fun watching you get pwnd by Colpy and ES.:lol:
If you look at the top right hand of every post, you will see "add Rep".....click on that and you are given the opportunity to comment privately on someone's post.......and give them a "greenie" (I approve) or a "reddie" (I disapprove) Signing your critique is good manners.
The reddie I gave you was only the second I ever handed out.....but certainly it was the most deserved.
Pray tell me what the NSDAP has to do with this discussion. In any case I'll tell you something about them that you didn't know and that is that they weren't socialists anymore than the DPRK are democrats. They were extreme right as their modern day followers are who aspire to emulate their deeds. Those who claim they were socialists are really praising them and crediting them with social reform for which they were not responsible. Furthermore, instead of nationalizing industry they awarded industry that they stole from the Jews to their own German industrialists. Perhaps you're confusing Iraq and Germany.
What is freedom to you? The right to not have healthcare for everyone in it's society, unlike Canada that does and is of higher quality? The right of the US to be 13th. on the human development index while Canada maintains our ranking at 3rd. Only bettered by two leading socialist countries.
Grow up.
Did I claim the US was a friend of Iraq? You're not acting like the sharpest knife in the drawer with that one pal!
Pick up an old encyclopedia and learn about Iraq before the US demonization began. That's the only way I can help you understand. I wouldn't expect you to accept any internet references any more than I accept your propaganda shopping.
If you ever choose to talk about it as a rational Canadian I think I can help you to understand the truth. Bit by bit but it will require an open mind and a willingness to learn. I'm sure you're not.
In the meantime please at least try to understand that the US is not in Afghanistan to help little girls go to school. They are there to assert US control over the country and slaughter the people. They will never leave Afghanistan, as they will never leave Iraq.
OH really! No thanks, I don't play with stickers. You won't get one from me because I would never stoop to such a childish tactic on a debate forum.
Now now, try and focus....I know its hard, but you can do it....
First of all YOU accused the Americans of being the New Nazis...........officially the National Socialist German Worker's Party, or NSDAP in German. You brought them into the discussion. The only thing you are correct about is that they have nothing to do with it........... And I never said the were socialists..........
Actually, the USA ranks 13 in the world healthcare index.......Canada ranks twelveth. Not anything to get yourself all self-righteous about. And freedom is not freedom from disease, it is freedom to speak your mind, to be involved in your governance, to enjoy personal liberty........and that the USA has in spades.
I'M not the sharpest knife!!!!! LOL!!! :lol: If you had passed Reading Comprehension 101 you would have realized that I was refering to the authors of the piece I cited for you............the human rights group is no friend of the USA.........
The Ba'thist Party that Hussein led in Iraq is a fascist party.....as is the party in Syria.......Hussein was famous for his cold-blooded murder of people....read the article.
The Americans, and the Canadians, are in Afghanistan as NATO allies on a United Nations approved mission to prevent Afghanistan from becoming (once again) a training base and staging area for world-wide terror attacks. That is all. Stabilizing the nation is part of the overall strategy in that pursuit, but democratization and human rights are a desired by-product, NOT the goal.
I strongly suspect that I have been reading history and politics since you were peeing in your pants, and probably a lot longer than that. You have allowed your mind to be poisoned by popular culture, and show an absolute intellectual inability (so far) to see beyond the lefty popular culture view. That would indcate that you should probably grow up and try to educate yourself, as (obviously) you are not old enough for your brian stem to be fully attached as yet.
Sorry to break it to you, but the USA is one of the Good Guys.
Alright, I'm focused.
Yes, I'm totally convinced that the US are the new Nazis and worse. How could anyone defend the US when they were guilty of going to war with Iraq and destroying that country again under false and fabricated pretenses? A person who would attempt that would have no credibility in my opinion. Besides that uncomfortable fact, I sincerely hope that you are not trying to say that NSDAP is an acronym for Nazi! If you are then you are incorrect and that leaves you with nothing! And on top of that, don't try to take credit for the stupid comments of others and then blame me for crediting you with them.
Actually you have misread what I said about the Human Development Index and you're trying to tell me something about some world healthcare index, whatever that is. If you're trying to reference the WHO study on world healthcare systems then the correct figures are 37th. for the US and 33rd. I believe for Canada. As for freedoms, most of the world now sees the US as a basket case and sees Canada in a much better light. I won't be specific until you sort out what you think you are talking about.
Why would I bother reading that article when I have read much more thorough and comprehensive artices on Iraq and Saddam? Saddam had succeeded in taking his country from near bankrupcy to prosperity. I see I have attempted to talk to the people on this forum on a level which is far more complicated than their understanding will allow. I'll try to tone it down to your more simplistic and uninformed level.
Well at least you have attempted to give your reasons and justifications. Totally ridiculous as they are and of course subject to change at any moment. Even so, there's certainly no doubt that the occupiers are hated by the Afghani people. Why do you think that is? Do you perhaps think that the people of Afghanistan hate the US occupation because they themselves want to turn Afghanistan into a base for terrorism? (guffaw)
This sounds more like a personal attack against me than an attack on my ideas expressed in my posts. "I" would suggest to you that I am your elder but I won't pursue the issue any further because that would be condoning your personal attack against me for my opinions. Your suggestion that my mind is, has been, poisoned and that my brain stem is not fully attached is the same. I would report same to the moderators if I thought it would be of any help to you in maintaining control but I know it wouldn't. I'll just register it all as the beginning of your personal attacks.
A nation that attacks another nation (Iraq for one example) on false pretenses and murders millions under their bombs are the GOOD GUYS? That's a novel idea. The US is a carbon copy of the Nazis of WW2. No, they are worse. The only difference is that they haven't lost their wars and been proclaimed to be the villains.
Colpy, Please stop spamming my message inbox. I have no interest in hearing what you have to say that can't be said in public.
I didn't see an answer, just an admission of failure. You've had all day to look it up.
Saddam virtually bankrupted his country with the Iran-Iraq War. The guy was sitting on one of the world's largest deposits of oil and he still managed to run his country in the dirt...or sand. He was deeply in debt with Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and asked both countries to forgive the debt. They refused and he eventually invaded Kuwait.
Ahh...first off, you said I "wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer"........if you want to be treated with deference, then use deference....if you want to slug it out in the mud, don't whine when you get slapped.
National Socialist German Worker's Party (NSDAP) was the official name of the German Nazi Party. Look it up.:roll:
The Nazis started a war in which 50 million lost their lives in less than 6 years. They attempted to spread an ideology of human racial perfectability in their own image that called for the extermination of the impure, and they practised that....murdering 10 million of the helpless in the attempt. To compare a free democratic state with them is....disingenuous at best.
The Iraqi regime was very much like the Third Reich, both in ideology and in racial practice.............it needed to be destroyed, and should have been smashed in the First Gulf War............. it was very much a serious mistake when the coalition did not drive that war to its natural conclusion...........bellus interuptus if you will. In that much I will grant you the US was incompetent, and a lot of innocent Iraqis paid with their lives.
Actually I believe you are correct on the WHO rankings, my mistake. Still, my point stands. A gap of 4 places is nothing to get all self-righteous about.
You might be 84 years old, I don't know. I was operating on what I see.
I wasn't spamming, I was discussing....if you want to keep it here, fine.
I didn't say you weren't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Read what I say to you more carefully and don't misquote me.
I know what the NSDAP was and the point I was making is that it's not an acronym for Nazi. Read carefully if you want to talk to me, I don't have patience for your mistakes.
You are simply uninformed about pre-Gulf War Iraq and Saddam's regime. You've probably only read US propaganda and nothing else which would balance your understanding. You need to read a correct history of what led up to the Gulf War and read how April Glaspie betrayed the US motives. You also need to read about the US lies about Iraq's military buildup on the Saudi border which was revealed as lies by actual Russian civilian satellite photos. And much more but I'm not able to sit here and give you a complete reeducation right now. I think you consider yourself too smart by half at least.
Of course I'm correct about the WHO rankings but that still has nothing to do with the Human Development Index on which I commented. You can ignore that if you like but it's still true. The US has slipped to 13th. and is slipping every year. Canada maintains it's position at 3rd. The US system is failing it's people and not just in the issue of healthcare. Why would any decent Canadian support that, I have to wonder!
If my age is not an issue to you then don't make stupid wild guesses on it. It was only an attempt at a personal attack against me anyway.
As I said and I'll say once again. STOP SPAMMING MY INBOX. Anything you need to say to me can be said here on the open forum.
And once more Colpy spams my inbox with his babbling. I've told you before, stop spamming my inbox. Anything that you have to say to me can be said on the public forum. If you continue to attack me personally via private messages I will no choice but to report your behaviour.
Last edited:
Ahhh....along with the fact I never "spammed" you, I have not sent you a message since you asked me not to below........check again, perhaps it is the Mother Ship trying to contact you...:roll:
As for the rest of the garbage above, it is a rehash, not worth dealing with.
See ya when you have something original to say.
I'd suggest telling India and Pakistan to bite the bullet and start getting along or else face moratoriums and other sanctions against them both. But that would mean other countries would have to get along as well. Ain't gonna happen, at least in the foreseeable future. As far as the Taliban goes, it's a ragtag group of self-righteous, deluded, and despicable a$$holes trying to impose their views on others through vile acts.