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JLM

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I've NEVER made a prediction on who WOULD win, I only stated my preference for Obama to lose. So if reelected, my birther beliefs don't prove me wrong, nor would they change. And my birther beliefs aren't my "guiding light" for disliking Obama. Wanna talk about his record?

Yep, but dig out the ENTIRE record! With these "birther beliefs" I'm not even sure a valid debate is possible!

I don't think he acted at all! I believe he was a patsy just as he claimed. We would have found out this year but somehow the files (supposed to be released after 50 years) aren't being released.

To quote my buddy Jack....

"You can't handle the truth!"

Next year, Nov. 22 2013!

Are you going to tell me next that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone?

It was Jack Ruby that was behind it!
 

Goober

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- Actually, Goober, the largest and most powerful political interest groups today insofar as the Democratic Party is concerned are the monopoly public sector unions who provide hundreds of millions of dollars, tens of millions of votes and tens of thousands of campaign workers to the Democrats in every election. A great many organizations have and execise political influence in our complex and heterogeneous society and simplistic morons like PoliticalNutterNick claiming that all the effective power is wielded by big business does not make it true.
Not fair- they fall prey to the oil, gas, coal, and every other industry. Both parties play the game.
 

Tonington

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Republican excuses for losing

Chris Christie

So it begins with Rupert Murdoch himself:
 

In Between Man

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I don't think he acted at all! I believe he was a patsy just as he claimed. We would have found out this year but somehow the files (supposed to be released after 50 years) aren't being released.

To quote my buddy Jack....

"You can't handle the truth!"

I bet he didn't kill that police officer either. :roll:

From this day forth, don't ever accuse me of living in a fantasy world, being deluded, or crazy, for having faith in Jesus Christ, or believing in unpopular claims like Obama's phony birth certificate. For the reason that the record forever shows that you believe in far out conspiracy theories like corporate-controlled governments and complicated assassination plots. At best such labels against me would be hypocritical on your part and at worst I'd say the "crazy" label falls on you.

If you think that Multi-Billion corps in any Country have no influence then carry on with that. But I do not believe in fairy tales.

Influence and control are two different things.
 

PoliticalNick

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- IBM ... Of course Oswald didn't act alone but was part of a CONSPIRACY you see. Lee Harvey was actually a founding member of the Bilderburgers (sic) not to mention the Hasty Pudding Society and the YMCA and he was also the majority shareholder in a major bank and all these powerful folks got together and drew straws and Lee drew the short straw, don't you know, so he was the gunman.

- PoliticalNutterNick will explain it all to you as he receives the information that is transmitted to him through his tinfoil hat.
Holy sh*t Teddy...You have a sense of humour.....Good job! ;-) ROFLMAO!

- Actually, Goober, the largest and most powerful political interest groups today insofar as the Democratic Party is concerned are the monopoly public sector unions who provide hundreds of millions of dollars, tens of millions of votes and tens of thousands of campaign workers to the Democrats in every election. A great many organizations have and execise political influence in our complex and heterogeneous society and simplistic morons like PoliticalNutterNick claiming that all the effective power is wielded by big business does not make it true.

The unions have held some influence over the years but I think it was mainly used by the leaders to line their own pockets. Big unions are just as corrupt as politicians. As for big corps and banks, well Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley were 2 of the top contributors to both campaigns last time and then, presto, a hundred billion or so in bail-out money so the top execs could cash multi-million dollar bonus checks. Don't tell me they have no control over Washington or Ottawa. Far more control than you or I as individual citizens.

I bet he didn't kill that police officer either. :roll:
Who knows, no witnesses.

From this day forth, don't ever accuse me of living in a fantasy world, being deluded, or crazy, for having faith in Jesus Christ, or believing in unpopular claims like Obama's phony birth certificate. For the reason that the record forever shows that you believe in far out conspiracy theories like corporate-controlled governments and complicated assassination plots. At best such labels against me would be hypocritical on your part and at worst I'd say the "crazy" label falls on you.
Most of the citizens of the world KNOW our governments are controlled by big business and the bureaucrats that don't change in every election. Is it a big conspiracy, I can't say if they are all in collusion with each other or just out to do what is best for their corporation but I can say they don't give a sh*t about you and me or any negative impact on our lives and the politicians owe them big favors...you do the math from there.

Kennedy....I don't think it was complicated plot at all. He was killed for not playing ball with the power-brokers, it was pined on Oswald, Oswald was killed before anyone knew the truth and the guy who killed Oswald was in turn killed. No lose ends, pretty clean job IMO. If the CIA et al can arrange assassinations and install puppet governments around the globe why not at home?
 

petros

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Nov 21, 2008
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I'm confused. How can a one of a couple epic losers such as Barry and Mitchell ever be considered a winner just by winning an election?