Active shooter reported in San Bernardino, California
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You have it figured out, Sleepy.
Just like you, Gerry (guess it takes one to know one) Hee hee.
REally...... you wanna show where I have said I was anything but an a$$hole? Show where I have professed to be one thing and then showed my cards to be something else.
Boomer is slowly showing himself to be as big if not a bigger bigot than MHz, db, or any of the other "jew" haters on this board. The difference is, he hates Muslims. He hates them so much, I would say it is bordering on psychopathic.
Point taken, Gerry and I admit you are right. Does he hate all Muslims or just some Muslims? There's a big difference. It's like the analogy of the cat jumping on the hot stove- your experience says a lot about how you react to situations. I prefer to find a trait in a person that I admire than to find a trait I object to. I'm sure if we look hard enough we can dig up an excuse to hate almost everyone. There's enough hatred in this world as it is. (And I don't pretend to be squeaky clean either)
You're right gerryh, I do not like the ideology of Islam and I equate Islam to Nazism.
Islamic Terrorism is like Ground Hog Day, the difference the Ground Hog keeps getting his head cut off.
List of Islamist terrorist attacks
www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ZEo7voCEM
Watch this to the end..
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, is a brave and brilliant young lady. Oh and she is Muslim.
Yup, have to agree. Brilliant. She does one hell of a job of glossing over her hypocrisy.
San Bernardino Attack Eye-Witness: "Three Tall White Men Did It"
The witness, Sally Abdelmageed, worked at Inland Medical Center where the attack took place and saw it all unfold firsthand. It’s also important to note that Abdelmageed is likely not lying and that this quite possibly might be the most accurate eyewitness account publicized to date. After all how can two shooters, a man and a petite woman, be mistaken for three white military men with athletic builds?
In a phone interview with CBS Abdelmageed explained:
“Yes,” said Abdelmageed.
The witness, Sally Abdelmageed, worked at Inland Medical Center where the attack took place and saw it all unfold firsthand. It’s also important to note that Abdelmageed is likely not lying and that this quite possibly might be the most accurate eyewitness account publicized to date. After all how can two shooters, a man and a petite woman, be mistaken for three white military men with athletic builds?
In a phone interview with CBS Abdelmageed explained:
"I heard shots fired and it was from you know an automatic weapon. [...] very unusual. Why would we hear shots? As we looked out the window a second set of shots goes off [...] and we saw a man fall to the floor. Then we just looked and we saw three men dressed in all black, military attire, with vests on they were holding assault rifles. As soon as they opened up the doors to building three [...] one of them [...] started to shoot into the room."
When asked what the gunman that shot into the room looked like the eyewitness replied:
"I couldn’t see a face, he had a black hat on […] black cargo pants, the kind with the big puffy pockets on the side [...] long sleeve shirt [...] gloves [...] huge assault rifle [...] six magazines […] I just saw three dressed exactly the same”.
“You are certain you saw three men,” the newscaster asked Abdelmageed.
“Yes,” said Abdelmageed.
“It looked like their skin color was white. They look like they were athletic build and they appeared to be tall.”
San Bernardino Attack Eye-Witness: "Three Tall White Men Did It" | Zero Hedge
San Bernardino Attack Eye-Witness: "Three Tall White Men Did It" | Zero Hedge
That is all they can bring to the table.... Cliffy.
DB.... maybe you want to fix your Youtube clip?
Darkbeaver a five year old could use the Internet better than you.. Screwing up another thread I see. :lol:
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Was local high school a target of San Bernardino terrorists?
Figures these nut jobs had a plan and was set off by a co-worker instead.. maybe that is fortunate for the parents of students..
Figures these nut jobs had a plan and was set off by a co-worker instead.. maybe that is fortunate for the parents of students..
Good on you, Santorum.
Santorum Turns Tables on Scarborough Suggestion To Go Kumbaya on American Muslims
Santorum Turns Tables on Scarborough Suggestion To Go Kumbaya on American Muslims
FBI: Investigators unable to unlock San Bernardino shooter's phone content
Reuters
First posted: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 07:19 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 07:42 PM EST
WASHINGTON - FBI Director James Comey said on Tuesday that federal investigators have still been unable to access the contents of a cellphone belonging to one of the killers in the Dec. 2 shootings in San Bernardino, California, due to encryption technology.
Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee that the phenomenon of communications "going dark" due to more sophisticated technology and wider use of encryption is "overwhelmingly affecting" law enforcement operations, including investigations into murder, car accidents, drug trafficking and the proliferation of child pornography.
"We still have one of those killer's phones that we have not been able to open," Comey said in reference to the San Bernardino attack.
Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, launched the Islamic State-inspired attack with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, 29, at a social services agency in the California city, leaving 14 dead.
Comey and other federal officials have long warned that powerful encryption poses a challenge for criminal and national security investigators, though the FBI director added Tuesday that "overwhelmingly this is a problem that local law enforcement sees."
Technology experts and privacy advocates counter that so-called "back door" access provided to authorities would expose data to malicious actors and undermine the overall security of the Internet.
A study from the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard released last month citing some current and former intelligence officials concluded that fears about encryption are overstated in part because new technologies have given investigators unprecedented means to track suspects.
Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to provide a declassified response to the Berkman study within 60 days. Clapper agreed to the request.
The White House last year abandoned a push for legislation that would mandate U.S. technology firms to allow investigators a way to overcome encryption protections, amid rigorous private sector opposition. But the issue has found renewed life after the shootings in San Bernardino and Paris.
Senators Richard Burr and Dianne Feinstein, the Republican and Democratic leaders of the intelligence panel, have said they would like to pursue encryption legislation, though neither has introduced a bill yet.
FBI: Investigators unable to unlock San Bernardino shooter's phone content | Wor
Reuters
First posted: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 07:19 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 07:42 PM EST
WASHINGTON - FBI Director James Comey said on Tuesday that federal investigators have still been unable to access the contents of a cellphone belonging to one of the killers in the Dec. 2 shootings in San Bernardino, California, due to encryption technology.
Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee that the phenomenon of communications "going dark" due to more sophisticated technology and wider use of encryption is "overwhelmingly affecting" law enforcement operations, including investigations into murder, car accidents, drug trafficking and the proliferation of child pornography.
"We still have one of those killer's phones that we have not been able to open," Comey said in reference to the San Bernardino attack.
Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, launched the Islamic State-inspired attack with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, 29, at a social services agency in the California city, leaving 14 dead.
Comey and other federal officials have long warned that powerful encryption poses a challenge for criminal and national security investigators, though the FBI director added Tuesday that "overwhelmingly this is a problem that local law enforcement sees."
Technology experts and privacy advocates counter that so-called "back door" access provided to authorities would expose data to malicious actors and undermine the overall security of the Internet.
A study from the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard released last month citing some current and former intelligence officials concluded that fears about encryption are overstated in part because new technologies have given investigators unprecedented means to track suspects.
Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to provide a declassified response to the Berkman study within 60 days. Clapper agreed to the request.
The White House last year abandoned a push for legislation that would mandate U.S. technology firms to allow investigators a way to overcome encryption protections, amid rigorous private sector opposition. But the issue has found renewed life after the shootings in San Bernardino and Paris.
Senators Richard Burr and Dianne Feinstein, the Republican and Democratic leaders of the intelligence panel, have said they would like to pursue encryption legislation, though neither has introduced a bill yet.
FBI: Investigators unable to unlock San Bernardino shooter's phone content | Wor
Report: 3 men tried to stop San Bernardino massacre
Brian Melley And Tami Abdollah, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:18 AM EDT | Updated: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:32 AM EDT
LOS ANGELES — As their colleagues were cut down by gunfire, three men rushed a shooter in an attempt to thwart the San Bernardino terror attack, according to an in-depth report of the massacre that provided new details Friday.
The three county employees were shot in the rampage by a colleague and his wife. The report did not say if any survived, though a federal prosecutor hailed their sacrifice.
“These victims had no chance to protect themselves as a result of the callous perpetration of violence, while others heroically sacrificed themselves in an attempt to stop the shooting,” U.S. Attorney Eileen Decker said in a statement. “In the face of this unfathomable suffering, the law enforcement personnel and citizens who put themselves in harm’s way to help others exemplifies the very best that our country has to offer.”
The report by the Police Foundation, a policy study group, and the Department of Justice provided a detailed account of the pandemonium that unfolded as the Islamic extremists opened fire at a Dec. 2 meeting of the man’s colleagues and, minutes later, as police first arrived at the scene of horrific bloodshed.
Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, killed 14 people and wounded 22 others in the massacre at a training event and holiday gathering of the San Bernardino County Health Department, where Farook worked as a food inspector.
Farook had been present at the meeting but got up and left before returning a short time later clad in black, wearing a mask and armed with a semi-automatic rifle. His wife was also wearing black and toting an assault rifle.
The first victims had been shot outside the Inland Regional Center. One appeared to have been eating lunch at a picnic table and the other was found still holding his cellphone, according to the report based on interviews with over 200 witnesses, law enforcement officers and others.
Colleagues inside had heard popping sounds, but many didn’t recognize the sound of gunfire until the doors burst open and they saw a man in black start spraying bullets. They didn’t recognize him or his wife. People ran in horror, some dove to the floor and others fell from the fusillade.
Even then, some weren’t sure what was happening, with one county official taking cover and thinking it was the “most glorified training I had ever seen.”
“Probably on the second or third clip, it finally clicked that this wasn’t an exercise,” he said. The report provided confidentiality to witnesses, victims and first responders.
The couple calmly reloaded several times over the course of two to three minutes before they left, and appeared to look for signs victims might still be alive, shooting one or more bullets into those who made a sound or moved.
One injured woman asked a colleague “to call her mother and say goodbye for her,” according to a draft of the report obtained by The Associated Press, but not included in the final version because of its graphic nature. The colleague tried to assure her she’d be OK, but the woman replied, “I’m not, I’m bleeding from the mouth” before closing her eyes for good.
The report, which was first written about by The New York Times, gives law enforcement high marks for their response, though it also points out areas of confusion or challenges law enforcement faced as they encountered the startling aftermath of the violence.
The carnage was described as looking “like a bomb had gone off.” Smoke from gunpowder filled the room and water poured down from a fire sprinkler struck by gunfire.
“It was the worst thing imaginable,” said a patrol officer who was one of the first four officers to enter the scene. “Some people were quiet, hiding, others were screaming or dying, grabbing at your legs because they wanted us to get them out, but our job at the moment was to keep going.”
The officer regretted having to leave the casualties, but they thought the shooters were still in the building and had to first make sure it was safe.
A rookie officer took a report from one of the survivors, who said Farook had left the meeting early and that there was something about the shooter’s body language that looked similar.
That led officers to Farook and Malik’s apartment in nearby Redlands hours later. The two left in a rented black SUV and were trailed by several undercover officers. When a sergeant in a squad car joined in and tried to pull the couple over, his vehicle was hit by gun fire.
Farook then abruptly stopped and he and Malik began shooting at officers in the street, who took cover behind vehicles and returned fire.
The couple shot 81 bullets at police before being outgunned by two dozen officers who fired 440 rounds. One officer was shot in the leg and a deputy was grazed by a bullet.
Farook was struck 25 times, mostly in the legs. Malik was shot twice in the head, and had 13 other wounds.
Police found more than 2,000 rounds of ammo in the vehicle, along with first-aid equipment.
It wasn’t all they left behind. Back at the conference room more than six hours after the attack, investigators found three pipe bombs in a bag Farook had left behind. The report said authorities now think they were intended to be detonated remotely when first responders aided the victims, but the remote detonating device didn’t work.
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Abdollah reported from Washington.
Report: 3 men tried to stop San Bernardino massacre | World | News | Toronto Sun
Brian Melley And Tami Abdollah, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:18 AM EDT | Updated: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:32 AM EDT
LOS ANGELES — As their colleagues were cut down by gunfire, three men rushed a shooter in an attempt to thwart the San Bernardino terror attack, according to an in-depth report of the massacre that provided new details Friday.
The three county employees were shot in the rampage by a colleague and his wife. The report did not say if any survived, though a federal prosecutor hailed their sacrifice.
“These victims had no chance to protect themselves as a result of the callous perpetration of violence, while others heroically sacrificed themselves in an attempt to stop the shooting,” U.S. Attorney Eileen Decker said in a statement. “In the face of this unfathomable suffering, the law enforcement personnel and citizens who put themselves in harm’s way to help others exemplifies the very best that our country has to offer.”
The report by the Police Foundation, a policy study group, and the Department of Justice provided a detailed account of the pandemonium that unfolded as the Islamic extremists opened fire at a Dec. 2 meeting of the man’s colleagues and, minutes later, as police first arrived at the scene of horrific bloodshed.
Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, killed 14 people and wounded 22 others in the massacre at a training event and holiday gathering of the San Bernardino County Health Department, where Farook worked as a food inspector.
Farook had been present at the meeting but got up and left before returning a short time later clad in black, wearing a mask and armed with a semi-automatic rifle. His wife was also wearing black and toting an assault rifle.
The first victims had been shot outside the Inland Regional Center. One appeared to have been eating lunch at a picnic table and the other was found still holding his cellphone, according to the report based on interviews with over 200 witnesses, law enforcement officers and others.
Colleagues inside had heard popping sounds, but many didn’t recognize the sound of gunfire until the doors burst open and they saw a man in black start spraying bullets. They didn’t recognize him or his wife. People ran in horror, some dove to the floor and others fell from the fusillade.
Even then, some weren’t sure what was happening, with one county official taking cover and thinking it was the “most glorified training I had ever seen.”
“Probably on the second or third clip, it finally clicked that this wasn’t an exercise,” he said. The report provided confidentiality to witnesses, victims and first responders.
The couple calmly reloaded several times over the course of two to three minutes before they left, and appeared to look for signs victims might still be alive, shooting one or more bullets into those who made a sound or moved.
One injured woman asked a colleague “to call her mother and say goodbye for her,” according to a draft of the report obtained by The Associated Press, but not included in the final version because of its graphic nature. The colleague tried to assure her she’d be OK, but the woman replied, “I’m not, I’m bleeding from the mouth” before closing her eyes for good.
The report, which was first written about by The New York Times, gives law enforcement high marks for their response, though it also points out areas of confusion or challenges law enforcement faced as they encountered the startling aftermath of the violence.
The carnage was described as looking “like a bomb had gone off.” Smoke from gunpowder filled the room and water poured down from a fire sprinkler struck by gunfire.
“It was the worst thing imaginable,” said a patrol officer who was one of the first four officers to enter the scene. “Some people were quiet, hiding, others were screaming or dying, grabbing at your legs because they wanted us to get them out, but our job at the moment was to keep going.”
The officer regretted having to leave the casualties, but they thought the shooters were still in the building and had to first make sure it was safe.
A rookie officer took a report from one of the survivors, who said Farook had left the meeting early and that there was something about the shooter’s body language that looked similar.
That led officers to Farook and Malik’s apartment in nearby Redlands hours later. The two left in a rented black SUV and were trailed by several undercover officers. When a sergeant in a squad car joined in and tried to pull the couple over, his vehicle was hit by gun fire.
Farook then abruptly stopped and he and Malik began shooting at officers in the street, who took cover behind vehicles and returned fire.
The couple shot 81 bullets at police before being outgunned by two dozen officers who fired 440 rounds. One officer was shot in the leg and a deputy was grazed by a bullet.
Farook was struck 25 times, mostly in the legs. Malik was shot twice in the head, and had 13 other wounds.
Police found more than 2,000 rounds of ammo in the vehicle, along with first-aid equipment.
It wasn’t all they left behind. Back at the conference room more than six hours after the attack, investigators found three pipe bombs in a bag Farook had left behind. The report said authorities now think they were intended to be detonated remotely when first responders aided the victims, but the remote detonating device didn’t work.
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Abdollah reported from Washington.
Report: 3 men tried to stop San Bernardino massacre | World | News | Toronto Sun