and that would be fine if the decision made couldn't impact another individual so negatively.
Abortion -The poll is not based upon Religious belief - It is based ethics
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and that would be fine if the decision made couldn't impact another individual so negatively.
This topic certainly brings out the passions in the devout and near sane. This debate is indicative of why it will not occur in Parliament. The three main parties have the same policy - avoidance. And, as far as late - term abortions are concerned, they are a non issue because of medical ethics. But, as a political football, this topic is wonderful, especially to castigate political opponents who hold the same position as you.
Now, as for pre-emptive war and capital punishment...
Now, as for pre-emptive war and capital punishment...
Taxes shmaxes. Those funds don't come from taxes.
Medical reasons for abortion are fine and dandy as they are grounded in reality.
When it comes to the excuses and peer pressures reality goes out the window.
Medical reasons for abortion are fine and dandy as they are grounded in reality.
When it comes to the excuses and peer pressures reality goes out the window.
Which other inviduals? The father? or the fetus?
The father could have talked in advance of having sex to ensure his opinion matched his partners.
The fetus? has no legal rights. can't vote, can't drive, can't smoke, can't choose which clothes to wear, can't speak, has no thoughts. Sometimes, decisions are made and sometimes the woman is going to choose her own best interest over that of a fetus.
I understand that it hurts your heart to have a potential baby destroyed.
reality is defined by ones experiences. If those experiences are from peer pressure...
Peer pressure is not always a negative influence.
Potential? You means it's not a baby? What would it be then? A puppy? A kitty? A pony? A gerbil?
No thoughts? I've seen some cool sonogram vids of twins plying in the womb at 24 weeks. If you're doing things to pass the time, you're thinking.
You're right but it can be positive as long as it based in truth.
When peers start with the malarky it's negative.
Other than medical or forced sex, what valid reasons are there for abortion?
Personal experience and the experience of others combined.
You're right but it can be positive as long as it based in truth.
When peers start with the malarky it's negative.
Other than medical or forced sex, what valid reasons are there for abortion?
An embryo at one stage, a fetus at another, a baby at birth. This is medical terminology.
I can only speak from my own perspective. Other then those 2 reasons, I'd not have an abortion.
It's all the same "entity", "person", "human". The only thing you are doing is demeaning the child by using different terminology, and finding ways to justify your position of allowing those "children" to be killed.
I'm using medical terminology. Take it up with the medical establishment if you believe their use of words to describe different stages of development are demeaning.
If a fetus is a baby, then a baby is toddler and a toddler is a child and a child is a teenager and a teenager is an adult...Is this correct?
That's right. One continuous line/life with man made arbitrary designations along the way.
I can only respect that.
When I speak of "excuses for abortion" I speak from experience.
My daughter turned 22 two weeks ago and my wife is 40 which means she was 17 when I knocked her up.
We heard every excuse under the sun and because of her small frame there were substancial risks for my wife and daughter even with a caesarian.
Not a single excuse from those who pressured for abortion came true.
None whatsoever and today those people are childless and jealous of our family.
I think you've overextended the idea of controlling one's own body and conflated it with rights. The body cannot be 100% controlled by anyone. It does things beyond our ability to understand and manipulate, but in matters where we can intervene, the only person that should have the power to make those decisions are the people whose body it is. That's what the right is: to do what is in our power to our bodies, if we so choose and when we choose.
Where was the control when having sex without regard for pregnancy and deadly diseases took place?
Heh, quoted, probably never read it. The co-morbidity data wouldn't allow Coleman et al. to know when any mental health diagnoses were made. The survey only reveals if it has ever happened to the respondent, at any point in their life. As I mentioned already, they never properly controlled their methodology. So when proper controls are used, there is no association. Even if there was, the causal relationship could be in the other direction, mental health is a risk for abortions instead of the other way around. Coleman et al. never even dealt with that...
Armchair scientists...for the cost, they're worth every penny. :lol:
So you never ran across the corrigendum with adjustments in your attack on me? That's a bummer Peabody.
My does that LA Z Boy of yours ever look comfy. Is it comfy enough to get over the 97% of 32% butt hurt?
My does that LA Z Boy of yours ever look comfy. Is it comfy enough to get over the 97% of 32% butt hurt?
Gerry - You have a lot to learn about life. Not everyone wants to become involved with every single issue that arises, which means they neither resist it or condone it. I've made my opinion clear about where I stand on abortion and stated my reason, but I'm not going to stand on the main corner down town with a shoe horn trying to pry other's stand on the issue out of them. Neither do I expect everyone else is going to agree with my opinion and that's O.K. with me- just don't ask me to be complacent with killing babies.
Twila- Every person on the planet (except those who have absolutely no conscience or regard for themselves or others) can use help from time to time, whether it be financial or moral support or just good advice, but no one should ever feel ashamed for asking for it- sometimes one can reach a point where he/she sees nowhere to turn. When you are in a better situation you can always pay it forward. More important don't let others put you down, they are only feeding their own inadequacy.