ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?

JLM

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A jurisdiction without ocean frontage would be screwed once they separated. The idea is retarded.
 

captain morgan

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A jurisdiction without ocean frontage would be screwed once they separated. The idea is retarded.


So would that jurisdiction that relied on rail and road transport to get their freight to the nation or required that same transportation infrastructure to get the export goods to port.


Kinda a 2-way street
 

spilledthebeer

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Did you see how many first Nations inhabitants there are, now?




Used to be a lot more.

Actually the ENTIRE population if First Nations in all of North America- at the time Columbus arrived- is estimated at about one million- it is white technology and white food production methods that have enabled native populations to grow as they have!

Not that natives would admit such a thing!
 

Bar Sinister

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Actually the ENTIRE population if First Nations in all of North America- at the time Columbus arrived- is estimated at about one million- it is white technology and white food production methods that have enabled native populations to grow as they have!

Not that natives would admit such a thing!

Actually the indigenous population was much higher than that. The numbers you are using refer to the population of Canada and the US. But North America also includes Mexico and Central America which is estimated to have had a population in the tens of millions. It is estimated that about 90% of the indigenous population of the Americas died after the arrival of Europeans. And on the subject of food, a large number of modern crops originated in the Americas.
 

spilledthebeer

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Actually the indigenous population was much higher than that. The numbers you are using refer to the population of Canada and the US. But North America also includes Mexico and Central America which is estimated to have had a population in the tens of millions. It is estimated that about 90% of the indigenous population of the Americas died after the arrival of Europeans. And on the subject of food, a large number of modern crops originated in the Americas.

Oh- Bar Silly Sister begs to DIFFER as usual- with NOTHING to contribute!

Mexicans may consider themselves part of North America -with good reason- we are talking here about lands that came under the influence of English speaking peoples!

Therefore Bar Silly- your comment is off topic and irrelevant as usual!
 

White_Unifier

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I wonder what BC would do if AB decided to divorce itself from Canuckistan?

It would still share a land bridge to the rest of Canada through the Yukon, The NWT, and from there Manitoba. In practical terms though, Canada would probably be wise to promote closer ties with the US to allow BC to trade more with it.
 

pgs

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It would still share a land bridge to the rest of Canada through the Yukon, The NWT, and from there Manitoba. In practical terms though, Canada would probably be wise to promote closer ties with the US to allow BC to trade more with it.
More?
 

White_Unifier

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Yes, more. If Alberta separates from Canada, BC could lose some trade with Alberta. Not necessarily, but the potential would be there. Obviously promoting a free-trade and maybe even open-border agreement with an independent Alberta would be a good thing for BC, and sure BC could try to promote more trade with the rest of Canada, but in terms of transportation costs, geographical proximity, and population, Washington State could benefit BC greatly and so if Alberta separated from Canada, it would be in Canada's best interest to promote free trade with Alberta and with the US to benefit BC as much as possible.
 

captain morgan

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It would still share a land bridge to the rest of Canada through the Yukon, The NWT, and from there Manitoba. In practical terms though, Canada would probably be wise to promote closer ties with the US to allow BC to trade more with it.


Infrastructure is already in place in the US, it would be crazy to attempt to develop rail and highway infrastructure through the North.


All the same, as it would be crossing through the US, there is the risk for tariffs, taxes, etc, but that's BC's problem
 

White_Unifier

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Infrastructure is already in place in the US, it would be crazy to attempt to develop rail and highway infrastructure through the North.


All the same, as it would be crossing through the US, there is the risk for tariffs, taxes, etc, but that's BC's problem

That's why I said it would be wise for Canada to promote closer trade relations with the US (especially if Alberta joins it) and with an independent Alberta.
 

Bar Sinister

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Oh- Bar Silly Sister begs to DIFFER as usual- with NOTHING to contribute!

Mexicans may consider themselves part of North America -with good reason- we are talking here about lands that came under the influence of English speaking peoples!

Therefore Bar Silly- your comment is off topic and irrelevant as usual!

It was a direct reply to your inaccurate post, so I guess you must have been off topic as well. And I guess by your racist comment that Quebec is not included.
 

pgs

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Infrastructure is already in place in the US, it would be crazy to attempt to develop rail and highway infrastructure through the North.


All the same, as it would be crossing through the US, there is the risk for tariffs, taxes, etc, but that's BC's problem
Port of Vancouver , and Prince George ,multiple border crossing into the U.S. market place . B.C. is situated perfectly and always has been . After all we were bribed into Canada with the railroad that Canada needed more then B.C.
 

White_Unifier

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Port of Vancouver , and Prince George ,multiple border crossing into the U.S. market place . B.C. is situated perfectly and always has been . After all we were bribed into Canada with the railroad that Canada needed more then B.C.

If you're thinking of an independent BC, it would still need to promote free trade with the US, an independent Alberta, and Canada and other countries to prosper.