Trade is trade , profitable companies prosper despite the regulations not because of them.
ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?
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Ab won't be joining the US any time soon.
All it would be is an entity that formalizes trade arrangements with other jurisdictions like it does now.
The only real difference is that cash won't be heading to Ottawa
The trade corridor is 2-way,imports entering BC get distributed North, South and East.
That said, there are many exports that currently cross through AB to get to Prince Rupert and port of YVR and there are also many border crossings from Sask & AB down through the US to Washington State, Oregon, California, etc. that can handle those same commodities.
There are options all around
I totally agree although regulatory and tax policies can heavily influence the competitiveness and the profitability
Best thing is to find secure markets NOT in the US. Look what they did to our Forest industry.
Where and how did Alberta’s threat of exiting confederation turn into communism ?
True. It would still be wise to promote trade with the world, the US being an added bonus if we can get it.
I was using hyperbole to show how government policy does indeed affect business.
Stick Around & help build a better Canada by discussion. Quebec has thought & thought about it & decided to stay. I guess that is what westerners not being dummies will do so too. Possible extinction of global human life for the sixth time is where we need to be thinking.
Actually it is LIE-beral HYPOCRISY on an fantastic scale that is creating this event! Though on a positive note- Cdns are becoming sufficiently angry about all the fresh, ripe, straight from the back of the bull, organic fertilizer that LIE-berals are madly spewing like a heavily drugged farmer on SPEED!
Consider: Are sky-high gas prices due to price gouging? Analyst says that’s ‘magic and make believe’ 9/16
Global News. By Simon Little. May 1/2018
With gas prices popping over $1.60 across Metro Vancouver, many drivers are wondering what's driving the spike.
B.C. Premier John Horgan says it's a supply shortage, but on Monday, one independent economist offered a more controversial take.
(Apparently some LIE-berals- Horgan among them- who desperately want to cover up the carbon tax crap they are dumping on us do not understand how our economy works! The slimy hypocrites IGNORE the steady increase in costs- not just of the made by B.C. LIE-berals- carbon tax- they also forget the made in Alberta by NDPers- carbon crap as well! A DOUBLE TAX- recently added- with HST climbing as well since it’s a tax on a tax! Then since oil is priced in Yankee dollars we must also add in the slow drop in value of Cdn dollars- compared to U.S. and that is courtesy of idiot spending by federal LIE-berals!)
(Once past the LIE-beral taxes, we can then start considering whether B.C. is being PIG HEADED about things like the Kinder Morgan pipeline- the owners have sunk 4.37 billion dollars into the project so far and B.C. premier Horgan has decided to hold it up- with behind the scenes aid of Our idiot Boy Justin! Horgan and other LIE-berals have made a tradition of sucking and blowing simultaneously! They want to bully gas companies out of business AND get great gas deals too! LIE-berals insist they are FOR pipelines- and then run out and put insane conditions up as road blocks to ensure that groups like Kinder Morgan give up in despair of ever meeting mad LIE-beral qualifications!)
(The final act of madness is LIE-berals whining about the price of gas and collusion between suppliers- in an industry that LIE-berals have sworn they want to shut down! The real irony is that those dedicated LIE-beral allies- the civil service union Hogs have BILLIONS invested in oil stock and the higher oil company profits- the more gravy for always greedy Hogs! If they cannot earn high rates of return on investment because LIE-berals have killed the fossil fuel industry- then LIE-berals will have to raise our taxes to make up for the pension gravy shortfall!)
(And lets ask: “is it not the stated LIE-beral goal to drive up the price of oil with carbon crap and trade taxes- to the point we give up and stop using the stuff? So the price of oil is UP- and LIE-berals WHINE about it? I guess LIE-berals really ARE entitled- so much so they do NOT feel obligated to produce a logical or consistent policy on anything! LIE-berals envision a future without fossil fuel-not even natural gas- but have NO practical alternative to offer!)
Robyn Allan, a long-time Trans Mountain pipeline foe and former CEO at ICBC says Metro Vancouver's record-high prices are a product of price-gouging on the part of fuel suppliers.
(Again- who cares about alleged price gouging- higher prices means LESS fuel bought according to LIE-beral policy- unless the real carbon crap tax motive was about more gravy for Hogs? And LIE-berals being so entitled they resent oil companies syphoning off entitled LIE-beral gravy?)
Speaking on CKNW's The Lynda Steele Show, Allan argued that the underlying problem facing consumers is a market dominated by a few players who are keeping prices high.
"There's not enough competition in the market, there's too few of the suppliers and they have over the years developed a very severe habit of charging whatever the market can bear," Allan argued.
(They charge whatever the market will bear? Gosh- isnt that the same song ALL business sings? And isn’t that how LIE-berals set tax rates as well- charging as much as they can get without causing a revolution at election time and getting LIE-berals fired? As IS happening here in Ontari-owe!)
"It's not because of crude oil prices, it's not because refining costs have gone up. And there's no supply problem, there is not a lack of supply in our domestic market place."
To make that point, she argued that Burnaby's Parkland refinery -- the only such facility on the South Coast -- has been stockpiling crude oil for "months" to service its refinery.
And she bolstered her point by pointing to data from the Port of Vancouver which shows tankers leaving the facility exporting more gasoline to the U.S. than bringing it in.
She claims that when oil prices cratered in 2014, dropping from more than $100 per barrel, suppliers kept their margins high, pocketing the difference -- and leading to current price problems.
"That margin started to balloon and so instead of passing the benefit of lower prices onto the retail market, they kept a large portion of that for themselves. And we all kind of saw it, prices never really fell at the pump to where we thought they should," she said.
Dan McTeague, senior petroleum analyst at Gasbuddy.com, says Allan's theory doesn't hold water.
"It's an inconvenient truth for the Robyn Allans of this world, but the reality is I don't work or operate in the land of magic and make believe," he told Lynda Steele.
McTeague suggested that Allan was cherry picking her facts, focussing solely on the gasoline moving through the port of Vancouver.
(Of course she is cherry picking! LIE-berals are so good at cherry picking they could replace Mexican migrant fruit pickers and put Mexicans out of work!)
Tears of laughter or sadness? Metro Vancouver gas prices tie record on April Fool’s.
(Again SO WHAT? LIE-berals WANT high oil prices to discourage us from using the product! There is also the dandy benefit to LIE-berals that HST on fuel is in proportion to sale price- higher oil price equals MORE HST gravy for Hogs!)
"Yes, there is premium gasoline that is exported, about 5,000 barrels a day, representing maybe about 11 or 12 per cent of what Parkland produces," McTeague said.
"But we are importing 35,000 barrels a day from the United States. Last time I checked, 35,000 minus 5,000 or 6,000, that's 29,000 barrels a day that we need," he said.
McTeague said he has long spoken about the lack of competition in the oil industry. But he said the root cause of the pain Metro Vancouver drivers are dealing with at the pump is a lack of supply, and a resulting reliance on foreign fuel that makes the province "price takers."
(LIE-berals whine endlessly about lack of competition in oil industry- and its really just NOISE- meaning nothing! Pierre Trudeau created Petro Canada as “a Cdn window into the oil industry” and Petro Canada became the usual LIE-beral money pit- never making a penny in spite of being granted FREE access to oil fields that private companies had to buy into! Conservative Brian Mulroney finally drowned Petro Canada in its own red ink and killed it off!)
Gas prices to reach 4-year high in 2018: report
"The reality here is that we've painted ourselves into a corner. Higher demand, less opportunity, a constrained Trans Mountain pipeline, which she opposes, which would bring down the equivalent of building another refinery with 50,000 barrels of fuel," he said.
"All those things are locked in."
(The key issue here is that LIE-beral policy is an UTTER FAILURE! Low oil prices are incompatible with LIE-beral on the carbon tax and on their hostility to pipelines! LIE-berals and their NDP idiot cousins have repeatedly stated they want to destroy the oil industry by putting the price so high that we stop using the stuff so how can such people then turn and whine about the high price?)
(Unless of course their Carbon crap and trade tax was NEVER about the environment and is ONLY focussed on grabbing gravy for Hogs? AS I have said before - the ONLY democratic way to save the environment is to BAN frivolous use of oil and this means cutting back on gravy for Hogs! Less gravy means Sunshine List Hogs will NOT be flying to Florida and Bahamas for golf in January! It also means Hogs are going to have to send all manner of gas guzzling toys to the museum since saving the environment trumps Hog personal convenience and Hog entertainment! Good-bye gas powered leaf blowers, sea doos, atv`s, 60mph bass boats and a host of other gas powered toys and conveniences that we can live without- if we have to!)
CLUELESS TWIT!!!
Our forestry industry is being hit IN RETALIATION for Our idiot Boy Justin and his moronic LIE-berals minions DELIBERATELY SCREWING UP JOINT NATIONAL SECURITY!
Yankees do NOT want to import terrorists along with their Cdn dairy and lumber! Its an easy link between the two! Consider:
Question period: Ralph Goodale was on CTV Question Period- on Nov 26/17 and he says there are TWO former members of ISIS facing criminal charges in Canada-out of sixty currently in Canada- and it took two years to put up these charges.
Goodale thinks this is good security and he refers to the Harper govt that never charged anybody from Isis- HAHAHAHAHA!!! Harper govt DID charge several people who left Canada to join Isis. And it is LIE-berals who are screwing around with that nutbar Muslim woman Dugmosh who tried to kill people in a Cdn Tire store last year! At her first appearance before a judge, she said she “wants to plead guilty and be deported as quickly as possible because she hates Canada”. She also told the judge that if she is released on bail, she “will try to kill again”! And the LIE-beral hug a thug judge told her “don’t be so hasty, take some time to think about it, do not be in such a hurry to leave Canada”!
WHY IN HELL would a LIE-beral see any reason to KEEP this mentally diseased, hate filled woman here? At the same time that LIE-berals were sucking up to this terrorist woman and her Muslim pals and wasting legal resources on a woman who has already tried to kill and promises more attempts if ever released from jail; LIE-berals were also RELEASING SEVEN accused killers because they could not find the resources to give a trial to the killers in a reasonable time! WTF?)
Conservatives did not NEED to press such charges against Isis types as they simply stripped such people of Cdn citizenship and REFUSED to let them back into Canada! This is in SHARP contrast to LIE-beral policy which involves RETURNING Cdn citizenship to CONVICTED Muslim terrorists of the notorious Toronto 18 group!
LIE-berals have made it very clear they want to KEEP convicted terrorists here INSTEAD of DEPORTING THEM! This is a MASSIVE insult to all Cdns! One must ask what price are LIE-berals not willing to make US PAY just so they can buy Muslim votes and cling to power at any price?
LIE-berals have demonstrated a fabulous disregard- not just for our own national security but for that of our Yankee neighbours as well! LIE-berals think we should just get acclimatized to having radical jihadists living in our neighbourhoods and he thinks Yankees should do the same! But with 3000 dead in the ruins of the World Trade Centre, the Boston Bombing, the shootings in California and assorted attacks throughout The States- Yankees are in no mood to be tolerant in that muddle headed LIE-beral style!
Our idiot Boy Justin is playing a dangerous game here- with our national safety and with our economy as well- Yankees DO NOT want to import jihadists from Canada along with their softwood lumber and dairy products- hence the connection between open borders, the looming NAFTA trade collapse and ROTTEN LIE-beral immigration policy!
Nor do Yankees want to see Canada be used as a back door entry into United States by agents of foreign countries- either masquerading as Cdns or using Cdns as tools- seeking to conduct industrial espionage against Yankees! Iranian, Russian and Chinese govts have spent a ton of money buying up wreckage of U.S. drones and stealth aircraft and other lost U.S. equipment- for the purpose of intelligence gathering- figuring out how the stuff works and how to beat it or to make their own copies! Yankees DO NOT want to have to worry about dual nation terrorists-the ones Our idiot Boy refuses to deport from Canada - sneaking into U.S. and gathering useful technical secrets. And we KNOW that LIE-berals will do nothing to prevent such secrets from being exported from Canada! LIE-berals are so careless of Cdn national security they have failed to respond to the recent hack- Jan/2018- by North Korea into the Metrolinx database- looking for credit card information or other useful personal stuff!
If we are to have free trade then we MUST have an integrated economy- and that CANNOT HAPPEN so long as Yankees have no faith in the LIE-beral version of national security!
Help save the planet- kill a LIE-beral TODAY before they destroy us!
Good Gawd man.....get a life....you seem to be foaming at the mouth with your LIE-beral phobia!