A Rational Conversation about Climate Change

Avro52

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What is the saturation point of CO2 in our atmosphere to make it detrimental?
Will the Pole reversal effect our Climate? Will we survive it as easily as we are Global warming?

We aren't all gonna die....that's the loons talking.

Is CO2 a greenhouse gas?
 

Avro52

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Pete posted articles that cooling will start happening as soon as this year, and alluded to it in a couple of posts earlier which you keep ignoring.

I didn't ignore it.

It's based on the GSM which fluctuates up and down but overall solar irradiance has leveled off since the late seventies and temps have risen since.

Is CO2 a greenhouse gas?
 

petros

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It can be. What level of impact does it have? Can level variations be tested, tests repeated and proven on a planetary scale?
Yes or no?
 

Avro52

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It can be. What level of impact does it have? Can level variations be tested, tests repeated and proven on a planetary scale?
Yes or no?

There you have it.

It can be.

Can it account for any of the current warming?

1%.....10%
 

petros

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Can level variations be tested, tests repeated and proven on a planetary scale?

Yes or no?

Your above statement relies on it.

Yes or no?
 

captain morgan

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You've answered that already but haven't followed up yet, What heated up the planet to melt the Glaciers?


The reason you won't get an answer is because the explanation will undermine the anthropogenic global warming theory


Can level variations be tested, tests repeated and proven on a planetary scale?

Yes or no?

Your above statement relies on it.

Yes or no?


You'll never get an answer because one does not exist... makes it impossible for the 'causation' being referred to also impossible to verify
 

spilledthebeer

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All of it in the scientific literature and taken into account.

What accounts for the spike in warming over the last century?




WHO SAYS THERE HAS BEEN A SPIKE IN WARMING?


What we HAVE SEEN is changed weather patterns - NOTHING MORE!


It has been warmer in the Arctic and COLDER in more southern climes!


This DOES NOT ADD UP to a "SPIKE"in temperature!


LIE-berals CANNOT SELL their "climate emergency" WITH LIES AND EVASIONS OF TRUTH!


Nor can LIE-berals sell their carbon tax SCAM that is nothing more than a massive gravy grab that will do NOTHING



FOR THE ENVIRONMENT!


B.C. has had a carbon SCAM TAX for some years now and emissions KEEP RISING!
 

Ron in Regina

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Scientists don't disputes any of that.

Like you say, their is a forcing....volcanos....Milankovitch cycle...greenhouse gases like Methane...the sun.... all of which are taken into account in the scientific literature.

What is the current forcing that is causing current warming?
What was forcing the 'Minoan Warming Period' & the 'Roman Warming Period' & the 'Medieval Warming Period'? Could whatever that was also be forcing the current warming period?


Climate changes.

I've never disputed that and neither do scientists.

It doesn't happen just because though.

Always a forcing.
You've got my attention. Which forcing is responsible for these last four warming periods (?) or three of the four even?

Which scientists are not disputing this (I agree that most if not all don't dispute that climate changes)? You refer to scientists like they're all of one opinion and in your camp of belief. Is it the scientists in the Earth Sciences (like Meteorologists & Geologists that believe what you do, leaving the Zoologists and Parapsychologists?) questioning your stance or something else? What Scientists are you vaguely referring to? The 97% already addressed in post #5 in this Thread or something else?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Which scientists are not disputing this (I agree that most if not all don't dispute that climate changes)? You refer to scientists like they're all of one opinion and in your camp of belief. Is it the scientists in the Earth Sciences (like Meteorologists & Geologists that believe what you do, leaving the Zoologists and Parapsychologists?) questioning your stance or something else? What Scientists are you vaguely referring to? The 97% already addressed in post #5 in this Thread or something else?
Personally, I'd listen to the physicists, chemists, physical chemists, biologists, meteorologists, climatologists, and planetary scientists. A bit to the mathematicians (not sure they count as "scientists").
 

Ron in Regina

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Personally, I'd listen to the physicists, chemists, physical chemists, biologists, meteorologists, climatologists, and planetary scientists. A bit to the mathematicians (not sure they count as "scientists").
Ditto. On this topic I'd go with the Earth Sciences also. It was vaguely stated above so that's part of why I was asking.
 

Cliffy

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I still can't believe there are people who think that dumping hundreds of thousands of tonnes of garbage and toxins into our air, water and soil every day has no effect on climate. Like I said years ago, the carbon debate is a smoke screen to cover up the fact that we aare poisoning the planet and in the end, we will fall victim to our own stupidity.