A Rational Conversation about Climate Change

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Cliffy said:
I still can't believe there are people who think that dumping hundreds of thousands of tonnes of garbage and toxins into our air, water and soil every day has no effect on climate. Like I said years ago, the carbon debate is a smoke screen to cover up the fact that we aare poisoning the planet and in the end, we will fall victim to our own stupidity.
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Yet here in North America we have improved our environmental practices enormously in my lifetime and are improving those practices all the time .
 
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Ron in Regina said:
What was forcing the 'Minoan Warming Period' & the 'Roman Warming Period' & the 'Medieval Warming Period'? Could whatever that was also be forcing the current warming period?



You've got my attention. Which forcing is responsible for these last four warming periods (?) or three of the four even?

Which scientists are not disputing this (I agree that most if not all don't dispute that climate changes)? You refer to scientists like they're all of one opinion and in your camp of belief. Is it the scientists in the Earth Sciences (like Meteorologists & Geologists that believe what you do, leaving the Zoologists and Parapsychologists?) questioning your stance or something else? What Scientists are you vaguely referring to? The 97% already addressed in post #5 in this Thread or something else?
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Not according to YouTube
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Youtube also generated this:
 
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Avro52 said:
The period of 1951-1980 was chosen largely because the U.S. National Weather Service uses a three-decade period to define "normal" or average temperature. The NASA GISS analysis effort began around 1980, so the most recent 30 years at the time was 1951-1980.

Can you explain the rise in temp since the mean average of this time period?

Even the video you posted featuring Dr. Robson (Historian) gives the reason.
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1980 is a strange year to pick as a base. Most of North America if not the world was cooled considerably by Mount St. Helen's eruption that year. The years following would be naturally warmer without any other causes.
 
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IdRatherBeSkiing said:
1980 is a strange year to pick as a base. Most of North America if not the world was cooled considerably by Mount St. Helen's eruption that year. The years following would be naturally warmer without any other causes.
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I remember that . Heard the sonic boom in West Vancouver .
 
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IdRatherBeSkiing said:
1980 is a strange year to pick as a base. Most of North America if not the world was cooled considerably by Mount St. Helen's eruption that year. The years following would be naturally warmer without any other causes.
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Fall of 1979 we were going into an ice age. Leap forward 9 months and Global Warming was born.

ST Helens or no St Helens
 
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Cliffy said:
I still can't believe there are people who think that dumping hundreds of thousands of tonnes of garbage and toxins into our air, water and soil every day has no effect on climate. Like I said years ago, the carbon debate is a smoke screen to cover up the fact that we aare poisoning the planet and in the end, we will fall victim to our own stupidity.
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But. . . but. . . but. . . Cliffy! We DON'T KNOW what caused the breakup of Pangaea, therefore the only logical path is to burn as much high-sulfur coal and leaded gas as possible, and to dump toxic waste into the rivers!

See, Jesus loves us, so it'll all be OK.
 
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But. . . but. . . but. . . Cliffy! We DON'T KNOW what caused the breakup of Pangaea, therefore the only logical path is to burn as much high-sulfur coal and leaded gas as possible, and to dump toxic waste into the rivers!
See, Jesus loves us, so it'll all be OK.
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Hey Peabody, can I borrow your time machine?
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
But. . . but. . . but. . . Cliffy! We DON'T KNOW what caused the breakup of Pangaea, therefore the only logical path is to burn as much high-sulfur coal and leaded gas as possible, and to dump toxic waste into the rivers!

See, Jesus loves us, so it'll all be OK.
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Good point, why, we ought to take a page from Gaia's playbook and only expel Earth-Approved things similar to what those eco-volcanoes expel during eruptions
 
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