A Rational Conversation about Climate Change

[Avro52]

You're asking loaded questions based on the assumptions forwarded by interest groups... I honestly don't know how else to answer.
I think that we can agree that the Earth's climate is a hugely complex system affected by variables inside our atmosphere, deep within the Earth and outside our terrestrial atmosphere... Assuming that you would agree with this ideal, you can understand how it is ridiculous to believe that it is possible to boil-down this complex system(s) into one or two simple cause/effect relationships.
Can we agree on this?

I can't agree on it's warming "just because".

Sorry.

 

[petros]

I don't expect it to rise every year because it hasn't and won't in the future.
The trend line shows consistent warming and that's with overall lower solar irradiance.

Linear and contraying to CO2 input theories.

Theories that cant be tested.

 

[Twin_Moose]

I can't agree on it's warming "just because".
Sorry.

What is your theory on why it's warming? Taking Carbon out of the equation like you say

What will be the effect of Climate change be when the magnetic North pole relocates to Siberia?

 

[petros]

What is your theory on why it's warming? Taking Carbon out of the equation like you say

Deserts that look like this come to mind.

 

[Avro52]

What is your theory on why it's warming? Taking Carbon out of the equation like you say

I'm taking it out for the folks here.

I think it's mostly human produced carbon.

Since it absolutely can't be carbon to everyone here then I'd like to hear what they think it is.

Just curious.

Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[petros]

Why do you believe that? Is it because that is what you were told to believe?

 

[Avro52]

Why do you believe that? Is it because that is what you were told to believe?

It makes sense.

Is CO2 a greenhouse gas?

Is that in dispute?

 

[Avro52]

Linear and contraying to CO2 input theories.
Theories that cant be tested.

You can easily test how CO2 absorbs and re-emits longwave radiation.

 

[captain morgan]

I can't agree on it's warming "just because".

Sorry.

Interesting... Your fixation on only warming? What about the multiple episodes of continental glaciation that the Earth has experienced?


Are these episodes ignored because it does not jibe with the current narrative?


The problem for the global changey warming climate crowd is that the historical facts do not support their claims, hence the reason that folks are programmed to analyze short periods (that do support the narrative) like 1950-1980.


Ironic that you seek a 'rational discussion' but refuse to consider the big picture

 

[Twin_Moose]

I'm taking it out for the folks here.
I think it's mostly human produced carbon.
Since it absolutely can't be carbon to everyone here then I'd like to hear what they think it is.
Just curious.
Maybe I'm wrong.

It makes sense.
Is CO2 a greenhouse gas?
Is that in dispute?

So you believe it is carbon dioxide that is creating the problem? So at what concentration of CO2 is detrimental to our planet? Was CO2 the cause of large land masses that got flooded thousands of years ago when peoplekind lost many port cities? What caused the Ice age to thaw and flood large land masses? What happened to the inland oceans that use to exist over much of Western Canada?

One more for you Do land masses rise and fall with the Tectonic plates shifting?

 

[Avro52]

Interesting... Your fixation on only warming? What about the multiple episodes of continental glaciation that the Earth has experienced?
Are these episodes ignored because it does not jibe with the current narrative?
The problem for the global changey warming climate crowd is that the historical facts do not support their claims, hence the reason that folks are programmed to analyze short periods (that do support the narrative) like 1950-1980.
Ironic that you seek a 'rational discussion' but refuse to consider the big picture

All of it in the scientific literature and taken into account.

What accounts for the spike in warming over the last century?

 

[Twin_Moose]

When will our Earth's axis shift further North or South again, to change the Climate for the better or worse depending on who gets closer or further away from the Sun?

 

[petros]

It makes sense.
Is CO2 a greenhouse gas?
Is that in dispute?

Does it have the impact claimed?

 

[Avro52]

So you believe it is carbon dioxide that is creating the problem? So at what concentration of CO2 is detrimental to our planet? Was CO2 the cause of large land masses that got flooded thousands of years ago when peoplekind lost many port cities? What caused the Ice age to thaw and flood large land masses? What happened to the inland oceans that use to exist over much of Western Canada?
One more for you Do land masses rise and fall with the Tectonic plates shifting?

The science seems to support current warming is mostly related to CO2.

The science also explains past warming and cooling. It's all there.

Is CO2 a greenhouse gas?

 

[petros]

What accounts for the spike in warming over the last century?

Agriculture and magnetic pole shift.

 

[captain morgan]

All of it in the scientific literature and taken into account.

What accounts for the spike in warming over the last century?

Murderous ladders?


Why don't you tell me

 

[Avro52]

Does it have the impact claimed?

Is it a greenhouse gas?

 

[Avro52]

Murderous ladders?
Why don't you tell me

Have a good day.

Good joke about Elizabeth May btw.

 

[Twin_Moose]

The science seems to support current warming is mostly related to CO2.
The science also explains past warming and cooling. It's all there.
Is CO2 a greenhouse gas?

What is the saturation point of CO2 in our atmosphere to make it detrimental?

Will the Pole reversal effect our Climate? Will we survive it as easily as we are Global warming?

 

[Avro52]

When will our Earth's axis shift further North or South again, to change the Climate for the better or worse depending on who gets closer or further away from the Sun?

You are referring to the Milankovitch cycle I'm assuming.

The current cycle should be cooling us down.