A Question for Americans

bobnoorduyn

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That is surprising.

Sometimes cops carry ball cap throw downs just in case they want to pull someone over. As soon as they pull a guy over they put a ball cap on his head with an inappropriate tilt and visor direction. When this happens you often here from the driver...

I didn't even do nothing!


And there you have it, I'm sure double negatives are a misdemeanor too.
 

Machjo

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Pretty sh-itty police work to not have the plate number.

Hey, I didn't thin I needed it. I figured I'd just follow the car with a black driver wearing a baseball cap. The easiest way to spot a car thief. If he denies stealing it and shows me proof of ownership, I'll get right on to proving the documentation is false and start looking for the true owner.

"But I am the owner." Check every file at your disposal, you'll see."

"Yeah, but we have black people working in the government too. How do I know one of them isn't your accomplice and faked the documentaiton form the inside?"

"Now that you mention it, I work for the government too, in IT."

"Aha! I knew it. You faked your own ID. Now we just need to find someone who will claim the car as his."
 

bobnoorduyn

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Hey, let's be honest. You're a cop checking for a stolen car. You see two cars pass by fitting the description (for some reason, you don't have the licence plate, so you gotta guess which one is the stolen car.

One driver, though shifty-eyed, trying to hide his face from you, trying to get away withoud drawing attention to himself, is white and wearing no ball cap, and the other driver, black with a ball cap on his head but looking normal otherwise, which will you pull over.

Me, defintely the black guy wearing the ball cap. The other guy's shifty eyes might just be naturally shifty.

So I guess Canada is not must different from the US after all, eh.

We need the anti-black-ball-cap-drivers squad.


Let's not get started on the ball cap under the hoodie, that is an absolute admission of guilt.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Before we crack ourselves up too much minimizing and effectively denying that black people are treated differently, and worse, by the cops, here is Senator Tim Scott, a conservative Republican, on the subject:

[youtube]8D1jz0aJ76k[/youtube]
 

bobnoorduyn

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Before we crack ourselves up too much minimizing and effectively denying that black people are treated differently, and worse, by the cops, here is Senator Tim Scott, a conservative Republican, on the subject:

[youtube]8D1jz0aJ76k[/youtube]


I don't think anyone here is denying it at all, or denying that there aren't serious problems with law enforcement. Even though they have more freedom to stop you in Canada than in the US the problems aren't quite as visible or wide spread but they do exist here too. But some folks do fit a certain stereotype with the way they dress and conduct themselves, black, white or other. LEO's, if not born suspicious certainly seem to be trained to be whether they are enforcing criminal, traffic, wildlife, transportation or other laws. The job seems to attract a certain type , and no doubt some bring their personal biases and prejudices to the job.
 

Machjo

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Any black man who does not wear a suit and tie at all times deserves to be stopped. Heck, I expect him to wear a tuxedo at all times.
 

Remington1

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Probable cause might be too broad in officers minds? Cops have a difficult job, they get thank for saving a home and family from a home invasion, but spit in the cops face when they are called to come down to jail and find out their daughter was the one who had organized the robbery with her new boyfriend! Same thing for domestic abuse, a huge thanks for saving my life and rescuing my babes, but at one point during the arrest 'a change' usually occurs and the cops are called pigs and told to fu$#k off and leave the abuser alone!! People are strange.
 

Machjo

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I have no sympathy for those blacks who keep getting pulled over by the cops. That's what whitening cream is for. Slap some of that on your face and you'll be just fine.

Oh yeah, and you might need a blond whig and blue contact lenses.
 

pgs

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Except road side checks which are a regular occurrance in Canada .
 

darkbeaver

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I hope someone will enlighten me about something I am curious about. I don't know American laws.


I'm hearing complaints from black American motorists that they are stopped frequently by police for no reason.
Doesn't 'probably cause' apply to traffic police?
Here in Canada he police will only stop a vehicle if there is something wrong with the vehicle like a tail light out or a cracked windshield. Or if the driver has committed a traffic violation. Unless there is probable cause to stop a motorist the police cannot do it.
So I'm wondering if that law applies in the States and if so, why don't those who are stopped for no reason report it immediately?


I also wonder, if traffic policing is a State responsibility, what can the Federal Government do about it?
Under the constitution they must have grounds, we will see this question repeated alot in the coming weeks. Rerport and help the matrix?

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davesmom

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Thank you all for your comments. It seems popular to blame the frequent stops on racism but does anyone think that it might also be because young black men are thought to be more prone to criminal activities?
 

MHz

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See what happens when you bunch up a bit into a single country or 5, people right away get their tongues to wagging for no good reason? That makes your assessment of the situation a valid one.

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Soon as the cheque that is coming clears Nigerian customs. Honest, should be any day now.
 

pgs

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Thank you all for your comments. It seems popular to blame the frequent stops on racism but does anyone think that it might also be because young black men are thought to be more prone to criminal activities?
Are they thought to be or are they actually ?
 

JLM

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I hope someone will enlighten me about something I am curious about. I don't know American laws.


I'm hearing complaints from black American motorists that they are stopped frequently by police for no reason.
Doesn't 'probably cause' apply to traffic police?
Here in Canada he police will only stop a vehicle if there is something wrong with the vehicle like a tail light out or a cracked windshield. Or if the driver has committed a traffic violation. Unless there is probable cause to stop a motorist the police cannot do it.
So I'm wondering if that law applies in the States and if so, why don't those who are stopped for no reason report it immediately?


I also wonder, if traffic policing is a State responsibility, what can the Federal Government do about it?


I guess as long as you are doing 1 mph over the speed limit, they have a "reason"!
 

Danbones

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I hope someone will enlighten me about something I am curious about. I don't know American laws.


I'm hearing complaints from black American motorists that they are stopped frequently by police for no reason.
Doesn't 'probably cause' apply to traffic police?
Here in Canada he police will only stop a vehicle if there is something wrong with the vehicle like a tail light out or a cracked windshield. Or if the driver has committed a traffic violation. Unless there is probable cause to stop a motorist the police cannot do it.
So I'm wondering if that law applies in the States and if so, why don't those who are stopped for no reason report it immediately?

There is probable cause...and there is probable cause
just some things to consider

WE have ride programs where the police stop everyone on a random basis, without prior cause.

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