A balanced Canadian approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

What policy should Canada adopt regarding Israel?

  • Option 1 in the OP.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Option 2 in the OP.

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • Option 3 in the OP.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Other answer.

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Total voters
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CDNBear

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So far the Harper regime has not yet expressed support for the Syrian dictator like they did with the Egyptian dictator, nor has Harper expressed unshakable support for Syrian war criminals, like they support Israeli war criminals.
You see, I was about to read through your post and give it respect, then I got to this part, and realized, you're back to the same old crap.

You babble about jurisprudence in one thread, then in this one, you have convicted a group, with out their day in court.

Do you really think those are the actions of a pacifist humanist?

I don't.

Palestinians, and any other group you do support, can not be condemned until they've had their day in court. But the Joos, are guilty from the get go?



How does this sound as a starting point?
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QUESTION: One of your books, The Fateful Triangle, focuses specifically on the Middle East, and I was wondering if you could talk about your position on a possible two-state solution to the Palestinian question.

CHOMSKY:
You had me up till you cited Chomsky.
 

ironsides

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Here I will make it an easy question, what tribe/nation did Goliath come from before that part of the promised land was called Judea?
Bible Map: Judea and Surrounding Region

Does being put into exile means God retains sole ownership? Let alone doing it twice.

Goliath came from Gath, then part of the region of the coastal tribe called the Philistines. Not a country, not a place just another tribe. Does God retain sole ownership? Yes of everything.
 

MHz

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If they have religious ties to the area why not make it a (Jewish based) shrine to God and leave the politics and the wars to the descendents of the Romans (the first Gentile rulers in that they started the 'time of the Gentiles') Jews live an work in all corners of the globe today so persecution seems to be at a lull. The whole idea was a sanctuary for a people who took a ****kicking in WWII, what is wrong with paying rent till God sets thing right by putting the original Israelis there in person, then it really is their land because Goliath will not be coming back. (to claim the same land)

That is why Canada's policy should be support for Israel
Do you know anything about why there is even an STL investigation?
 

earth_as_one

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I'm very foggy on this issue, but there seems to be a lot of evidence that indicates that while Israel has a right to defend itself, it cannot be by force.. I'm still trying to work out the logistics, but Chomsky's critique on Obama's stance is appropriate considering Israel actually does have peaceful means to defend itself....
You assume Israel's intent is self defense. How would you describing forcibly removing people from their homes, so they can be razed and replaced with Jewish only colonies. IMO, ethnic cleansing can't be defensive.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-...d-evictions-west-bank-palestinians-2010-07-01
 

mentalfloss

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You assume Israel's intent is self defense. How would you describing forcibly removing people from their homes, so they can be razed and replaced with Jewish only colonies. IMO, ethnic cleansing can't be defensive.
Israel steps up forced evictions of West Bank Palestinians | Amnesty International

Hm.. Amnesty is pretty reputable for this sort of thing. I'm going to continue to try and keep my opinion balanced, but it really does seem that Israel gets off pretty easy. The parallels between Israel and U.S. military aggression are pretty astounding. I still don't get why everyone is onboard for a two-state solution except the U.S. What do they have to hide?
 

CDNBear

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For any of the usual suspects to even remotely be perceived as balanced, they would first have to be balanced in their condemnation, balanced in their application of jurisprudence, balanced in how they disseminate facts and finally, balanced in their outrage.

More people have died in the Congo, than in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, full stop.

Yet we are inundated with a continuous attack on Israel, over and over, ad nauseum.

Regardless of the reasoning behind that, the optics indicate an unjust issue with a specific group, as apposed to an objective view of the whole of the situation.

There is little confusion why some of the usual suspects, get labeled Joo haters.
 

MHz

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I still don't get why everyone is onboard for a two-state solution except the U.S. What do they have to hide?
The original Rothschild design for the realization of a homeland for the Jews as drawn up in the 1880's did not include Gaza or the West Bank. That is who the US debt is owed to, do the math from there, unlimited credit and do our bidding or get cut-off and crash your country forever. They can come with execution on the spot for a terrorist but not a robber. Just sayin ........
 

darkbeaver

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The NT is for the Goyim, what we have here is a failure of the Jews to understand that part of the Holy Scripture, an ailment that is a hold over from when they got exiled. That they think they only got a 70 exile is proof they don't know anything about their own Holy Book. I would give you the verses (just say the word) but it would cause too many eye-bleeds in this place.

The NT is also the end of what the OT started, the path that the bruise to the heel took. a Jewish thing for the most part is in the 4 Gospels. The rest is how Satan gets his ass kicked (for the 3rd time) and Goyim are at the forefront when it comes to having surviving witnesses. 144,000 from the 12 Tribes and about 2,222,222,222 Christians, so really who has the greater importance. Ripping all the OT prophecies out of the OT is perfectably acceptable as they don't apply to the Jews. If a Jew belives in Jesus they are under Christian domain (for the most part), if not then they are Satan's Harlot (and that ain't good for them) You should be able to appreciate an author that can wite two novels in one book, front-to-back for one and back-to-front for the other one. This is either already evident to you or it is going to take a few uninterrupted pages, and that isn't possible here. So the short version, Revelation (reading it in our normal way) set the sequence of events that are still in our future. It leads all the the OT prophecies meaning they are no use to the Jews, that isn't a concept they willingly accept, about as well as telling a Muslim they actually belong to God because of the 7 Churches rather than the 'new and improved' church. The Heathen part of me would prefer to see it happen sooner rather than later just to see who is eating crow on that day (inside scoop, it will be crows doing the feasting on their carcases)

Allegory was thick in the old days. Twelve tribes, twelve divisions of the zodiac. The bible, there's not a word in it that isn't of Egyptian origin, and every bit of that is bent to Hebrew requirements. word, PM me the juicy stuff
 

ironsides

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Allegory was thick in the old days. Twelve tribes, twelve divisions of the zodiac. The bible, there's not a word in it that isn't of Egyptian origin, and every bit of that is bent to Hebrew requirements. word, PM me the juicy stuff

You can go beyond the 12 tribes of Israel and even the Egyptian religions, who were both pretty much at the same time period to the Sumerians if you want to compare similarities in religion. Stories are similar, even the serpent who was a god in the Sumerian religion and was demonized by the Bible to the story of the Great Flood.
 

Colpy

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Hm.. Amnesty is pretty reputable for this sort of thing. I'm going to continue to try and keep my opinion balanced, but it really does seem that Israel gets off pretty easy. The parallels between Israel and U.S. military aggression are pretty astounding. I still don't get why everyone is onboard for a two-state solution except the U.S. What do they have to hide?

Ahhh...the USA has supported a two state solution for decades......