9 charged with bullying Mass. teen who killed self

[EagleSmack]

Thats so true Wolf. The person that is getting bullied wants it to stop. In lieu of that he does not want it to get worse. When this case hit the news so many other articles and input cam in from the local papers. Anonymous stories from parents about their kids being bullied and a common thread from the kid to the parent was...

"Don't say anything!"

One father was so fed up with his son being bullied that he paid two street tough kids $50 each to rough up the bully and make it stop. He said it did and I bet to him that was probably the best $100 he's ever spent.

 

[selin]

i am very sorry for her but unfortunately , that kind of event will go on until school staff and families quit being selfish on that matter. everybody should observe their children no matter bulling or bullied and school staff should also observe and take precautions against those kind of behaviours, but especially teachers choose to be away from those events because they think that they would get into trouble.

but the most important thing which we should pay attention is EDUCATION not schooling...

 

[Risus]

If I were her mother, I'd be chatting with lawyer about civil suits against the school staff who knew about the abuse, and the school board since the law doesn't want to apply the full measure of justice.

Thats the yankee reaction to almost everything: sue, sue sue

Suing will not save anything.

 

[AnnaG]

Thats the yankee reaction to almost everything: sue, sue sue

Suing will not save anything.

:roll: Nothing will bring their daughter back, but doing nothing will not benefit ANYONE and only show support for bullies.
Besides, in case you didn't notice, Massachusetts is in the USA.

 

[Risus]

:roll: Nothing will bring their daughter back, but doing nothing will not benefit ANYONE and only show support for bullies.
Besides, in case you didn't notice, Massachusetts is in the USA.

Of course Massachusetts is in the states. thats why I said that suing is the yankee reaction.

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning???

 

[wulfie68]

Thats the yankee reaction to almost everything: sue, sue sue

Suing will not save anything.

You're right: the girl is dead. Now all that can be done is to punish those who are guilty, by any and all legal means (and I'll be honest if it was MY kid I don't know that I would confine myself to the legal...). That means criminal proceedings against those involved and civil actions against those who could and SHOULD have eliminated or at the least controlled the situation somewhat, and are not facing criminal charges.

If you don't punish the offenders, be they the bullies or be they the idiots at the school who could have intervened, you are tacitly condoning their actions and deeming them acceptable on some level.

 

[wulfie68]

Of course Massachusetts is in the states. thats why I said that suing is the yankee reaction.

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning???

Don't kid yourself: Canadians sue as often as they can too.

 

[AnnaG]

Of course Massachusetts is in the states. thats why I said that suing is the yankee reaction.

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning???

Nope. I just thought it funny that you'd point out that suing is an American habit. They are Americans and if I was one I'd be suing, too, especially if the legal system won't do anything. If it came to that, I'd sue even though I am Canadian. Like I said, nothing will bring their daughter back, but doing nothing will not benefit ANYONE and only condone bullies activities.

 

[Risus]

Nope. I just thought it funny that you'd point out that suing is an American habit. They are Americans and if I was one I'd be suing, too, especially if the legal system won't do anything. If it came to that, I'd sue even though I am Canadian. Like I said, nothing will bring their daughter back, but doing nothing will not benefit ANYONE and only condone bullies activities.

whatever. You are pretty quick to try to insult soneone.

 

[AnnaG]

whatever. You are pretty quick to try to insult soneone.

?? I didn't try to insult anyone. If you meant the comment about Massachusetts being in the US, it was supposed to be funny.

 

[Risus]

?? I didn't try to insult anyone. If you meant the comment about Massachusetts being in the US, it was supposed to be funny.

OK,. It just didn't come across that way.

 

[ironsides]

Of course Massachusetts is in the states. thats why I said that suing is the yankee reaction.

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning???

Stop picking on her. That was her opinion. With you it is because you dislike Yankee's. I knew what she meant.

 

[ironsides]

If I were her mother, I'd be chatting with lawyer about civil suits against the school staff who knew about the abuse, and the school board since the law doesn't want to apply the full measure of justice.

Your right, the school system must be given a incentive to make sure that this never happens again. We all know that nothing will bring Phoebe back, and this is all they can do.

 

[shadowshiv]

I am sorry you were bullied. That has to be one of the worst things to happen to a student in school.

I am not condoning shooting either but it does remind me of a story from years ago when a student did use a gun and gained national attention. He did not go on a shooting spree but he took care of the bully.

It was the standard bullying story. A male student of small stature and size being picked on by a much larger male in high school. For some reason he was chosen by this HS Football player to be bullied for the amusement of others. The bullied student said the final straw came when he was sitting at his desk and the bully flipped the chair with him in it in front of the whole class. He brought a gun to school the following Monday and pumped the bully full of lead killing him.

Thank you, EagleSmack.

I agree with you that it would be difficult to not want to find a quick solution that would end the bullying for good. In many cases, the ones being bullied are in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. No matter what they do, they are in for bad times.:-(

 

[shadowshiv]

I don't think so. I think they are going to be in big trouble. Two of the boys are being charged with statutory rape. I am hoping that they get what they deserve.

I am not certain of this, but I believe they want to try some of them as adults, and if that happens the justice system certainly won't be "easy on them" by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[lone wolf]

I am not certain of this, but I believe they want to try some of them as adults, and if that happens the justice system certainly won't be "easy on them" by any stretch of the imagination.

...especially the penal system....;-)

 

[Cliffy]

...especially the penal system....;-)

Do they call it the penal system because of the instrument that Bubba will use to rip them a new one?

 

[theconqueror]

When I was in school I was part of an anti-bully team of guys who sought after the bullies of the school, just to prove there is allways someone bigger than you.

And the reason for this was that none of the adults understood what torment a child goes through when they are bullied, adults just brush it off as part of growing up when they don't understand the trauma a child can go through when he or she get's picked on and how a child is incapable of defending themselves when he or she does not poses the skills of moral self-defense.

So the child gets trapped into a box that they cannot get out of, and like in this case death was a way out.

Remember, bullies thrive on satisfation that they are getting the best of you both physically and mentally, so it is an adults responsibility to catch it quick before the flames spread around to all their peers. Once that happens you become scared for life and walk around with a ball and chain, when in auctuality it is a crime of slander, false accusations, emotional distress, harrassment, stalking, and many more, which if an adult did he would go to jail. So let it be with the kids...After all bullying is a game of growing up right? So, let them grow up with the law.

 

[critter171]

wow (Mass. school head defends response to bullying)

"SOUTH HADLEY, Mass. — A Massachusetts school superintendent is defending his administration's handling of bullying that prosecutors say contributed to a 15-year-old girl's suicide.
South Hadley Superintendent Gus Sayer said Wednesday that high school officials disciplined students heard to insult and harass Phoebe Prince. But he says the faculty didn't know the extent of the bullying until a week before Prince hanged herself on Jan. 14.
Sayer's comments contradict the allegations of District Attorney Elizabeth Scheibel, who said school officials knew about the harassment but did little to intervene.
Nine students are charged in connection to Prince's death. Sayer, in his first comments since the indictments, said those students are the same ones identified in a school investigation."


Parents are saying this has been going they never apologize to parents or the city and there saying the admin need to resign.


that a bunch of bs out of gus mouth. he needs to be fired himself.



its funny how school flip over an art or hair cut.. when it harms no one.. but when someone in harm... oh lets turn a blind eye.



http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/6939278.html

 

[critter171]

When I was in school I was part of an anti-bully team of guys who sought after the bullies of the school, just to prove there is allways someone bigger than you.

And the reason for this was that none of the adults understood what torment a child goes through when they are bullied, adults just brush it off as part of growing up when they don't understand the trauma a child can go through when he or she get's picked on and how a child is incapable of defending themselves when he or she does not poses the skills of moral self-defense.

So the child gets trapped into a box that they cannot get out of, and like in this case death was a way out.

Remember, bullies thrive on satisfation that they are getting the best of you both physically and mentally, so it is an adults responsibility to catch it quick before the flames spread around to all their peers. Once that happens you become scared for life and walk around with a ball and chain, when in auctuality it is a crime of slander, false accusations, emotional distress, harrassment, stalking, and many more, which if an adult did he would go to jail. So let it be with the kids...After all bullying is a game of growing up right? So, let them grow up with the law.

this is exactly right she hide behind her smile that a key red flag she needed help right there. i wish i could just give this family so much support and hugs. I have e-mail my superintended asking to see if anything can get the bulling lower down here at the local school i went to.

I gave him some examples. of what happen to me.