9/11 Truth Manifesto
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Tell that to the Iraqi and Afghanistani children that die in the streets every day since the U.S. and Canada have "invaded" their countries, and to all the innocent men, women in those countries that die every day. Easy for someone like you to say such a thing. I would trully like to see you physically walk up to a child of one of these countries and say that, and if you could without blinking an eye then it is you who should be left there in the streets to defend yourself.
And also while you're at it, tell all families of the dead soldiers that were over there for absolutely no reason other than oil, and U.S. show of dominance.
Albertabound,don't bother. Best you stayed home and remained outraged at events that you maybe understand,like why your third child has a permanent tan. BAD wally.Oil is not the reason that the coalition troops are over there. It would be a lot easier and a lot less expensive to work with the nutbars,if we could,saudi is a good example.they are ISLAM in capitals,but are not hell bent on converting us. My personal opinion is to pull all troops out of that region.Let the chips fall where they may,but at the first indication of violence outside their family,nuke the pricks. Innocents will die,as they are now,but in the long run,maybe,just maybe,intelligence will prevail.
I can't agree with that. Saudi funded Madrassa, Mosques and proselytising in the west is HUGE.
In fact, it came to light just recently the CAIR is almost entirely Saudi funded.
Yes it would, until the the taps got turned off for one reason or another. The U.S. can not afford to have this happen, remember the oil embargoes of the 70,s. They vowed never again to have this happen. ......They need full and complete control......there is no other way. And no, it is not all about oil, they also need dominant presence in the middle east, however they are finding that not so easy
There are many thousands more Christian nutbar missionarys, the "Islamic World Conversion Conspiracy" is cheap bottom feeding propaganda produced in Tel-Aviv and Washington for the retarded.:smile:
What exactly is your point in that statement.
I'll say.....they have absolutely no desire to convert anyone, unlike the west that feel they must promote and imposs their believes on the rest of the world. Leave these people the f--k alone and they will do the same. These people don't have the military might to invade or take over anything in the west so why does the west insist on going over there and telling these people how to live and what to believe in.
Here is a cinario for you ....suppose one day China says f&ck it, we beleive in communism and we think you should too. So they come over here and invade our countries.....remember it is just a cinario.... Now, for 5 years they occupy the U.S. and every day they move to a new area and kick down the doors of every home in that area looking for none believers and those that oppose them. Tell me are you going to stand by and allow this to happen or are you going to do every thing in your power to fight this. Why should I become a communist when I am perfectly happy with my current state of believe and way of life. Now look at what the U.S. is doing, do you wonder why they are pissed. These people in the middle east have lived the way they have for thousands of years and now a foreign entity has now come into their world and by force is now telling them that they have been living wrong for all these years and you "must" change your ways or we will kill you.
If the U.S. is so hell bent on making the world a better place. Why don't they start by spending the billions they are spending on "war", and spend it on their own country and their own people. Don't you think it woudl be a euphoric place to be, or do you disagree. Or do you think the muslim world would be envious of them and try to destroy that euphoric state. I think not. These are two different worlds, and they would remain that way.
You can say it three more times and still be saying the exact same thing...drivel.
Odd, you seem to be projecting again DB.
I've seen things that support my Pearl Harbour theory, but nothing to support the US itself had anything to do with planting bombs, flew remote planes, murdered the passengers of said switched aircraft, or any of the other ridiculous claims.
How convenient.
Of course that's highly suspicious...nothing to with the acts of 9/11 though, just the same old same old NORAD operations. They've been doing the same operations since their inception, they continued to do the same operations since 9/11.
Russia's just a good opponent.
Funny...ITN was one of those New Yorkers and saw nothing of the sort.
Got any links or anything?
I would otherwise agree, but I wouldn't base a whole theory on a few tapes. I've seen eyewitness accounts, they were quite adiment about it being a passenger plane.
GH, we rarely agree, but I agree completely.
Looked out the back of a few from 38. Could easily make out land mass, geography, CFB Trenton, the 401, hell, I'm pretty sure I could even ID my own barracks.
Once we dropped through 30, I could make out roads, trucks and large vehicles.
Training, training, training...and a whole lot of dedication can and will produce amazing results.
Could be a possiblity, but where do you find plants willing to kill themselves?
Other then the lovely moderate world of Islam?
I'm Army, I've still managed to punch a few varifiable holes in your logic. I'm not trying to do so, because of some malicious intent, I'm stating what I know to be fact.
Boston from 38,000 feet...
Can you not see enough landmarks through the 'patchy clouds' to navigate by...I sure can.
Washington DC. at 39,000 feet...
Come on Wolf, if you really were CAF, you must have a full grasp of what dedication is. Now compound that with a religous fanatism that would drive you willingly to suicide and mass murder.
If your beliefs, your will and drive is that strong, do you think it not well within the realm of reasonable possiblities to achieve a goal, well beyond the comprhension of the average man?
I wouldn't even give him that much credit GH.
I agree. Other then the fact that we aren't safe from Christian fundamentalists, let alone Islamic ones.
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Maybe so, but I doubt. Most nutbar Christian missionaries are building wells in Africa. I'm not too worried about them.
On the other hand, there is a lawsuit being lodged against CAIR right now by....wait for it....a private citizen. 8O Washington is inviting these people for dinner at the White House. A far cry from creating "cheap bottom feeding propaganda".
It will be interesting to see how the suit plays out.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59440
"The pattern of racketeering activity conducted by CAIR is separate from the existence of Radical Muslim Terrorism, and/or the al-Qaida, and/or the International Islamic Front for the Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, but was a necessary component of the 9/11 attack. The RICO enterprise conducts terrorism all over the world; the racketeering activity conducted by CAIR funds that activity, which activity culminated in the 9/11 attack."
In 1998, "CAIR denied bin Laden's responsibility for the two al-Qaida bombings of American embassies in Africa. CAIR's leader Ibrahim Hooper claimed the bombings resulted from 'misunderstandings on both sides.'"
"CAIR receives significant international funding. For example, in 1999 the Islamic Development Bank gave a $250,000 grant to CAIR to purchase land for a national headquarters. In 2002, the World Association for Muslim Youth, a Saudi government-funded organization, financed distributing books on Islam free of charge and an advertising campaign in American publications. This included a quarter page in USA Today each Friday, for a year, estimated to cost $1.04 million. In 2003, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal donated $500,000 to distribute the Koran and other books about Islam in the United States. In 2005, CAIR's Washington branch received a donation of $1,366,466 from a Saudi Arabian named Adnan Bogary. In 2006, Sheikh Hamdan bin Rashid Al Maktoum, deputy ruler of Dubai and UAE minister of finance and industry, financed the building of a property in the U.S. to serve as an endowment for the organization. This gift is thought to generate income of approximately $3 million a year."
"The role of CAIR and CAIR-Canada is to wage PSYOPS (psychological warfare) and disinformation activities on behalf of Wahabbi-based Islamic terrorists throughout North America. They are the intellectual 'shock troops' of Islamic terrorism."
"The Council on American-Islamic Relations is a Muslim Brotherhood front organization. It works in the United States as a lobby against radio, television and print media journalists who dare to produce anything about Islam that is at variance with their fundamental agenda."
"CAIR has links to both Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. Terrorism expert Steven Emerson has stated before Congress that CAIR is a front for Hamas."
"Maybe so, but I doubt. Most nutbar Christian missionaries are building wells in Africa. I'm not too worried about them." Just The Facts said
They've been building wells in Africa along with the other aid projects for decades, it supports the illusion of benevolent care and western love and charity, while at the same time extracting resources at a thousand times the size of the charity all with the result that Africa can easily be seen to have recieved not one thin dime in aid despite the perenial media spin. You buy the prapoganda hook line and sinker.
They've been building wells in Africa along with the other aid projects for decades, it supports the illusion of benevolent care and western love and charity, while at the same time extracting resources at a thousand times the size of the charity all with the result that Africa can easily be seen to have recieved not one thin dime in aid despite the perenial media spin. You buy the prapoganda hook line and sinker.
Ha ha. Like in Zimbabwe.
Can you give me a f'rinstance of these resource extractions?
The CT's HAVE been crushed with evidence.
Not stupid to understand, just saying stuff happened that never happened. Again. And again. And Again.....
Perfect case in point....no steel beams melted. No one ever said any steel beams melted....except of course CT's building straw men.
Thank you.
this is a video re the molten steel........
Ha ha. Like in Zimbabwe.
Can you give me a f'rinstance of these resource extractions?
Ivory, Slaves, Timber, Diamonds, Gold on and on for two hundred years and extraction at a scale that no ammount of dickhead bible pushing morons can ever resupply with bogus humanitarian aid. Of course if you want to believe in the benevolence of"western aid" that's a sign of a personal problem you have with actual facts as opposed to verifiable truth.
On October 13, 2005, Pepperell's T-1 generator caught fire, melting its thrust bearing
The T-1 generator dropped down when its bearing melted, causing damage to both the generator pole windings and allowing the runner to cut a hole in the bottom of its gatecase making rigging the runner back up into place difficult. The T-1 generator had to be completely rebuilt and rewound by Leppert-Nutmeg in Bloomfield, Connecticut.
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Tanker truck melts freeway bridge...
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Nope, fire can't damage the integrity of steel.
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BTW...
White smoke is easily made when you pour gallons upon gallons of water on a fire. Not to mention, do we all understand the principal that is at work in a Coke oven or a Charcoal kiln or even a simple high quality air tight wood burning stove...
Remove as much oxygen as possible, without removing all of it and you get a hot slow burn. Lasting days with the sufficient amount of fuel.
You don't suppose the WTC was filled with a few tons of combustables do ya?
:lol::lol::lol:
Quote from a fireman:
"Molton Steel, running down the channel rails, like you're in a foundry....like lava"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM7HI4kjtvA&NR=1
Thermate did that? :lol::lol::lol::lol:
How come the car engine in the thermite demo didn't flow away like lava?!? How come???
Oh, and the dripping out of the tower, just by coincidence, is from the area where the plane would have settled. Plane = Aluminum. Molten Aluminum begins to flow out just when the floor trusses begin to break and let it flow from where it accumulated on the floor above.
This evidence supports the common sense version of events more than it does some crazy troofer conspiracy.
This is why you guys are mocked.
Oh, and PS.....Sulphur? Kinda finds it's way into jet fuel. I think there was some of that in the towers on 9/11.
I like how the official describing what happens when oxygen is suddenly introduced.
Brown black smoke...not white like in stretches video.
Ever seen a dumpster fire?
Ever seen what happens to a dumpster that's had a fire in it...simple household waste, burning in a confined space will produce enough heat to melt the dumpster...simple fact.
Now lets combine that with the nergy of compaction, combustables, and limited oxygen...
Hot slow burn.
Why is this so hard to grasp Just the Facts?
I know you get it, why doesn't anyone else?
Looked out the back of a few from 38. Could easily make out land mass, geography, CFB Trenton, the 401, hell, I'm pretty sure I could even ID my own barracks.
And you knew what you were looking for and where to look.
Once we dropped through 30, I could make out roads, trucks and large vehicles.
Training, training, training...and a whole lot of dedication can and will produce amazing results.
Clue! There "terrorists" were supposedly flight school wash-outs who couldn't master straight and lever flight in a Cessna.
Could be a possiblity, but where do you find plants willing to kill themselves?
Not all that hard.... Is it that far out of this world to imagine an incarcerated pilot - Syrian, Jordanian, Egyptian, Iranian, Iraqui Israeli - who is offered citizenship ans safety for his family if he will offer himself for Israel - or the NWO, or the Old Boys Club?
Other then the lovely moderate world of Islam?
I'm Army, I've still managed to punch a few varifiable holes in your logic. I'm not trying to do so, because of some malicious intent, I'm stating what I know to be fact.
If you've ever been to the Middle East, you probably weren't long in realizing all is not as it appeard on the evening news here in Canada.
Boston from 38,000 feet...
Can you not see enough landmarks through the 'patchy clouds' to navigate by...I sure can.
If they saw things from this attitude, they were in big trouble already and about 4 minutes from making a crater.
Washington DC. at 39,000 feet...
Just in case you hadn't noticed, the world doesn't have lines and arrows and the perspective you see from the cockpit is horizon to about 45° - where morning sunlight reflecting on water vapour creates a ground-cloaking haze in the eastern sky.
Come on Wolf, if you really were CAF, you must have a full grasp of what dedication is. Now compound that with a religous fanatism that would drive you willingly to suicide and mass murder.
If you really were CAF, you'd know all the dedication, desperation, fanatacism, piss and vinegar in the world doesn't amount to Jack Shyte when you operate tools without a bit of training and some hands-on experience.
If your beliefs, your will and drive is that strong, do you think it not well within the realm of reasonable possiblities to achieve a goal, well beyond the comprhension of the average man?
...or punch that four minute hole into the ground.
I wouldn't even give him that much credit GH.
I agree. Other then the fact that we aren't safe from Christian fundamentalists, let alone Islamic ones.
Woof!