9-11-ten yrs Later

[Ocean Breeze]

Ten Years after 9/11, the US/NATO War Machine Rages On

Ten Years after 9/11, the US/NATO War Machine Rages On


What kind of world have "we" created out of a militant response to a tragic, horrifying "terrorist" crime.??

Has terrorism been scourged from the planet?? Is THAT even a realistic expectation???

Has the texture / type of terror acts changed ?? Has the fear mongering helped or hurt the american collective psyche.?

Who is benefitting from the continuous wars and probably more to come??

How many; people have been slaughtered as the US war machine moved across several countries now ??? as extracted its revenge......something that can never be done , particularly when other agenda is in place.

How is american (west) anger, hatred and rage different from those they are killing??

Has the US become unnecessarily more extreme ?? and how has this been fueled.

...........those are just a few thoughts and questions that come to mind.

Just watched an item on BBC...........American flags waving ( a forest of them) and signs saying "Muslims go home" with accompanying chants of hatred. A little girl comments: "I was born in America, , so where am I supposed to go .This is my home "

Will we ever know what truly happened that day ??? Not in our life times . Hopefully some enterprizing historian in the distant future has access to all the data , evaulates it and publishes the findings. The distant future might offer the objective perspective that does not exist now .......and can't because the emotional aspects of the event are exploited just to keep the patriotism at fever pitch.

With due respect to: those that lost their lives , were injured, the families involved. Much respect to all those that dealt with this atrocity from the rescue teams , to the clean up teams.

Let's give thought to them all with a quiet dignity

 

[lone wolf]

If it was a home-built thing to create enemies to throw money at, it would have made more sense to reveal space lizards from Melmac 4 were going to invade. Man would have walked on Mars by now - and spent lots to get there.

 

[Colpy]

Ten Years after 9/11, the US/NATO War Machine Rages On

Ten Years after 9/11, the US/NATO War Machine Rages On


What kind of world have "we" created out of a militant response to a tragic, horrifying "terrorist" crime.??

Has terrorism been scourged from the planet?? Is THAT even a realistic expectation???

Has the texture / type of terror acts changed ?? Has the fear mongering helped or hurt the american collective psyche.?

Who is benefitting from the continuous wars and probably more to come??

How many; people have been slaughtered as the US war machine moved across several countries now ??? as extracted its revenge......something that can never be done , particularly when other agenda is in place.

How is american (west) anger, hatred and rage different from those they are killing??

Has the US become unnecessarily more extreme ?? and how has this been fueled.

...........those are just a few thoughts and questions that come to mind.

Just watched an item on BBC...........American flags waving ( a forest of them) and signs saying "Muslims go home" with accompanying chants of hatred. A little girl comments: "I was born in America, , so where am I supposed to go .This is my home "

Will we ever know what truly happened that day ??? Not in our life times . Hopefully some enterprizing historian in the distant future has access to all the data , evaulates it and publishes the findings. The distant future might offer the objective perspective that does not exist now .......and can't because the emotional aspects of the event are exploited just to keep the patriotism at fever pitch.

With due respect to: those that lost their lives , were injured, the families involved. Much respect to all those that dealt with this atrocity from the rescue teams , to the clean up teams.

Let's give thought to them all with a quiet dignity

First of all, the 9-11 attacks were not ONLY a crime; they were also an act of war.

It is ludicrous to expect terrorism to be "expunged from the planet". What has happened is that there has not been another serious terrorist attack in North America.

Fear in America, and Canada is an awful thing......the USA has resorted to tactics that are blatantly unconstitutional, a situation that IMHO hands a psychological victory to the terrorists.

When you are attacked, you retaliate with all the force at your disposal. If you don't want to die, don't attack, or don't harbour those that do. Simple as that.

We are different because we are a vastly superior culture. And the war we wage is in defense of that culture. That's right.....we are free, we choose our own leaders, we are rich because of our liberty, we are educated.........we are vastly superior to those weighed down by suicidal belief in a seventh-century death cult.

What actually happened on 9-11 is exactly what you have been told happened on 9-11. That is the benefit of a free society and a free press....lies usually are out reasonably quickly.

 

[WLDB]

First of all, the 9-11 attacks were not ONLY a crime; they were also an act of war.

It is ludicrous to expect terrorism to be "expunged from the planet". What has happened is that there has not been another serious terrorist attack in North America.

Fear in America, and Canada is an awful thing......the USA has resorted to tactics that are blatantly unconstitutional, a situation that IMHO hands a psychological victory to the terrorists.

When you are attacked, you retaliate with all the force at your disposal. If you don't want to die, don't attack, or don't harbour those that do. Simple as that.

We are different because we are a vastly superior culture. And the war we wage is in defense of that culture. That's right.....we are free, we choose our own leaders, we are rich because of our liberty, we are educated.........we are vastly superior to those weighed down by suicidal belief in a seventh-century death cult.

What actually happened on 9-11 is exactly what you have been told happened on 9-11. That is the benefit of a free society and a free press....lies usually are out reasonably quickly.

Its rare that I agree with you-but this post pretty much reflects my view.

Its only semantics, but words are important. They shouldnt have declared a "war on terror". You'll never eliminate terrorism as its a tactic, not a group.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Hi Colpy: Don't know about anyone else. but I REFUSE......absolutely REFUSE to live in fear of something that Might happen.

the odds of being killed prematurely by many other means are higher. Life is crap shoot at best.

It is no way to live. AND reacting with such extremism is almost pathological with other motives in play.

My perception is this: the americans have lost more "freedoms" since then , that they are willing to admit. OR they say......they don't mind accepting various "restrictions " and security measure for their collective national safety.

Now.....It is unrealistic to think that such events.........maybe not of the same magnitude ... can be stopped militarily .

If I were an alien from outer space and watched how the security measures have been implimented and to what degree ......I would have a rethink about the civility of the humanoid.

One sorry bum tries to set his shoes on fire ........and the rules for everyone change. Each time there is a situation that is labelled as terrorism.........more "security; " measures are put in place. And on it goes.

america has totally redefined itself . in response to a terror act. So........the upshot is : the terrorists won . You can't go around the planet killing them..........as that only breeds more of them. Not that they need any encouragement. For every bomb the US tosses at them...........they come up with different ways to sneak in using no technology at all.

IMHO........the real issue has not been addressed. but the cycle of violence is fueled to continue - probably as long as it is useful to the USG.

One cannot deny............that the "terrorist" issue is a gift that keeps on giving. (in a very destructive way.......and a highly political one )

Its rare that I agree with you-but this post pretty much reflects my view.

Its only semantics, but words are important. They shouldnt have declared a "war on terror". You'll never eliminate terrorism as its a tactic, not a group.

exactly!! just as their "war on drugs" and ;other war slogans they come up with. But I think that this language is a result of a general war ,mentality.

but it sure set the tone ........for a decade of killing with more to come.

 

[AbtFet]

First of all, the 9-11 attacks were not ONLY a crime; they were also an act of war.

Yeah it was an act of war, a war started by America.

 

[lone wolf]

Yeah it was an act of war, a war started by America.

You'll have to present a much stronger case than that.

 

[earth_as_one]

I have no idea what really happened on 9/11. I saw images of planes flying into buildings and the destruction. Other than that, I have far more doubts than certainty.

I am certain that the official story of heroic passengers crashing the 4th plan in Pennsylvania is a fabrication. The plane was shot down... which if you consider the timing and location makes far more sense.

9-11 Research: The Crash of Flight 93

 

[AbtFet]

Research the history on U.S intervention in the middle east... and then maybe you can come to some conclusion of how America began this war and paved the way for irate islamic extremists.

 

[earth_as_one]

This website seems to have compiled most of the contradictory evidence:
9-11 Research: Misinformation

 

[Just the Facts]

I have no idea what really happened on 9/11. I saw images of planes flying into buildings and the destruction. Other than that, I have far more doubts than certainty.

I am certain that the official story of heroic passengers crashing the 4th plan in Pennsylvania is a fabrication. The plane was shot down... which if you consider the timing and location makes far more sense.

9-11 Research: The Crash of Flight 93

If the plane was shot down, they would have said it was shot down. The gov't admitted that an order was given to shoot it down if it was intercepted and refused to turn around and land. So why would they lie about shooting it down? They would have shot it down, but as events unfolded, they never had to pull that trigger.

That's the problem with the whole troofer movement, it focuses on tiny little details in isolation, and ignores the huge glaring obvious realities.

It's like finding a piece of chicken dna on a KFC employee, and not buying "his official story" that he's actually human. Even though he's standing there speaking to you in English through a human looking mouth on a human looking face on a human looking head on a human looking body with a human looking wallet containing human looking ID, you REFUSE to buy his story of being human....becasue, hey! ....the chicken DNA! How do you explain the chicken DNA!

lol

 

[lone wolf]

Too many accounts put Flight 93 inverted when it struck ground. Even if nobody was on the helm, trim and onboard computers should have kept it upright. Loss of an engine (target for a heat-seeking missile) and corresponding section of wing would cause the aircraft to roll due to loss of lift on one side. Debris located more than a mile from the crash site supports a shoot.

Sorry.... I don't buy into the official story

 

[Colpy]

Research the history on U.S intervention in the middle east... and then maybe you can come to some conclusion of how America began this war and paved the way for irate islamic extremists.

Oh really???

You mean how we went to war to defend Muslims in the old Yugoslavia.

You mean how we paid outrageous amounts of money for oil to a cartel led by Muslims.

You mean how the USA tried to feed and stabilize a society for Muslims in Somalia.

You mean how the USA opposed and contributed greatly to the ending of the joint British-French-Israeli invasion of Egypt (Muslim) in 1956.

You don't have a clue.

 

[lone wolf]

What other explanation is better than that?
USA has exploited foreign nations for decades, particularly Muslim nations, people kind of get pissed off eventually wouldn't you think?

I think you're only part correct. I'm more inclined to believe it's the clerics who see their stranglehold on the people fading in favour of more relaxed Western values who got kind of "pissed off" - a lot like the moral majority who set light to Beatles records and memorabilia on John's out-of-context line "bigger than Jesus".

 

[Just the Facts]

Too many accounts put Flight 93 inverted when it struck ground. Even if nobody was on the helm, trim and onboard computers should have kept it upright. Loss of an engine (target for a heat-seeking missile) and corresponding section of wing would cause the aircraft to roll due to loss of lift on one side. Debris located more than a mile from the crash site supports a shoot.

Sorry.... I don't buy into the official story

Hmmm, I've seen lots of videos of fighters being shot down and hitting the ground. Haven't seen any of fighters being shot down and disappearing INTO the ground.

Spinning and hitting the ground inverted would seem to me, granted a layman, but still, more consistant with a jet coming down full throttle, than one coming down with an engine blown off.

It's more of an aerobatic move than a falling from the sky disabled move.

 

[Angstrom]

Anyone who thinks this was not a set up is retarded.
Any engeneer, steel worker or construction worker knows building's don't
go down like that even if you had launched a missile or something
even bigger and stronger then a plane.

 

[lone wolf]

Hmmm, I've seen lots of videos of fighters being shot down and hitting the ground. Haven't seen any of fighters being shot down and disappearing INTO the ground.

Spinning and hitting the ground inverted would seem to me, granted a layman, but still, more consistant with a jet coming down full throttle, than one coming down with an engine blown off.

It's more of an aerobatic move than a falling from the sky disabled move.

How many of those fighters have engines on their wings?

 

[Just the Facts]

How many of those fighters have engines on their wings?

Why does it matter? Thrust is thrust.

 

[lone wolf]

Why does it matter? Thrust is thrust.

Not when one of the engines fell near Indian Lake - six miles away

 

[EagleSmack]

Anyone who thinks this was not a set up is retarded.
Any engeneer, steel worker or construction worker knows building's don't
go down like that even if you had launched a missile or something
even bigger and stronger then a plane.

Before you call people retarded... check your spelling.

So... what happened on 9/11? Let's hear just ONE Truther give his version of what really happened.