the 31 songs for $675K is way way over kill
a thousand dollars a song would be reasonable punishment if you wanted to be a prick about it
a thousand dollars a song would be reasonable punishment if you wanted to be a prick about it
31 songs = $675K
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I was on jury duty for a foolish lawsuit. It was a rear end collision that had absolutely no damage whatsoever to either car. I am talking none. Not even a scratch. She was sueing for a large amount of cash for pain and suffering and the full amount of her honeymoon plus a little extra. She said she couldn't enjoy her honeymoon.
She got NOTHING and I led the charge to give her nothing. I said these are one of those lawsuits we always hear about.
Afterwards the judge came into the jury room to thank us and someone asked that question BS... Do juries often rule in favor of the plantiffs for these cases?
He said most often they do not. He said juries, contrary to popular belief, are very skeptical of people bring frivolous lawsuits and often rule against the plaintiff. He said it is the big cases that make the news give the perception that it is widespread. He said he was not surprised with our decision.
Thanks for doing your part in convincing them to do the right thing, EagleSmack!
And thanks for letting me know that what I thought about jury rulings in lawsuit cases was totally wrong.
Thanks for doing your part in convincing them to do the right thing, EagleSmack!
And thanks for letting me know that what I thought about jury rulings in lawsuit cases was totally wrong.
And my ambulance chaser lawyer friend (from another state) said it was absolute Bull S*** that we didn't give her anything and that juries have no idea of the pain and suffering that his clients go through!
Oh and he said we were the worst kind of jury to try a case in front of as we have no sympathy whatsoever.
It made me laugh.
He stole someones lively hood and therefore he pays. I think they should attach
the order to every job and every amount of money plus interest until its paid. Now
maybe people will stop stealing music and book material. No sympathy here
the order to every job and every amount of money plus interest until its paid. Now
maybe people will stop stealing music and book material. No sympathy here
He fits the stereotype, eh?
I guess it shows that he's not in "lawyer mode" 24-7(the fact that you can still be friends, that is).
He fits the stereotype, eh?
We were in the Marines together so maybe that explains it. Oh and he shaves strokes off his golf score card as well.
I thought Canada had a copyright act of some sort.
I doubt this guy would have got tried if all he did was download 31 songs for free. He shared them to others. No doubt somebody he shared to ratted him out. But the record companies like to try and convict the little guys as a form of intimidation. Generally works. Of the $1 you pay at iTunes, probably 10 cents goes to Apple, 10 cents goes to the artist. The record company execs (with no musical talent) get the 80 cents.
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For downloading and distributing 31 songs when he was 16 years old, file-sharer ordered by judge to pay $675,000.00
Asinine is right.
Joel Tenenbaum must pay $675,000 (£426,000) in damages awarded to the major US music labels after his request for a retrial was turned down.
Mr Tenenbaum, 25, was found guilty of illegally downloading and distributing 31 songs in 2007.
A judge in Massachusetts ruled that the damages, set by a jury in 2009, had been fair.
Mr Tenenbaum was 16 years old when a letter was sent to his parents' home accusing him of illegal file-sharing.
He was asked to pay $5,250 (£3,319) for downloading seven songs. He claims he offered $500 (£316) which was all he could afford at the time, and it was declined.
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BBC News - US music file-sharer must pay damages
It might teach him not to steal!
What I can see coming, is musicians making their own agreement with ITunes.
For myself I find it easier getting my music from ITunes, rather than downloading P to P or buying albums...Don't have to rip or "normalize" the volume......
For a serious crime like that I imagine they would. It is not like he is a serial killer or embezzled a billion dollars from seniors.
You should have written that in purple.
Did you see the damage done to the woman in the McDonald's coffe suit? Her vagina was pretty much destroyed as were her inner legs by third degree burns. That did serious damage. These song downloads did not.
It hasnt stopped anyone. Nor has it 'stolen someones livelihood.' Everyone has done it including older folks when it comes to radios to tape recorders or tv to video cassette.
Wsn't it written on the cup "Coffee his freaking hot" plus arent there supposed to be a lid on it when you buy one?
As for the anti piracy witch hunt,its retarded,does it really deprive them of money,when its been proven that sales of CDs and DVDs is unaffected,as for the "file sharing" of movies on the net,some of the movies are old and impossible to find in stores or sites like amazons,same goes for tv shows,old and recent.
It wasnt written on them at the time. Also, there was no reason for it to be hot enough to cause enough damage to threaten a person's life.
Regardless it was a frivolous suit. Actually, I'd want some pretty substantial corroboration before I'd believe it was hot enough to endanger a person's life, unless it was a gallon size cup over 180F.
Third degree burns causing extreme damage is hardly frivolous.
HOT COFFEE, a documentary feature film
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