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Canadians maybe, but people of NB? HELL NO. There are more people/parents in NB that seem to be supportive of the bill, not against it.

And this has caused his own people - even his party - to tell Higgs to GTFO.

I think it's hilarious and while it could happen to better, as deserving assholes, Higgs is definitely one that deserves this ass kicking. As one person from the party said today to the effect of "This was the job you wanted. If you didn't want people to say bad things about you, get over it."
Is that why you block so many posters ? You can’t seem to get over it . Good thing you are in the minority .
 

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I don’t have a dog in this hunt, but spotted a relevant news story on my lunch hour above. 😉

I think the biggest thing hearing about it for me is that his own party is turning against him.

And it reminds me of the BS in the states in a lot of ways. Even the same "the media is out to get me" chicken little screams.
 

Ron in Regina

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To be honest, frak if I know :ROFLMAO:

In the end, I hate all the need for labeling anyway. I dislike feeling like I have to identify people as "gay" or "lesbian" or "Trans". Unless someone is non-binary on the gender spectrum or asexual on the sexuality spectrum, or pan for that matter, to me you're just a man or woman or whatever.

That friend I have in Calgary, they're two spirit, but okay with a lot of the girlie things despite a masculine nature sometimes. But they ditched anything to do with the local GLBTQIA groups because of their focus on labels. As they put it "I'm me and I don't need labels".
This is from a couple of weeks ago, & from Australia, but it features our Prime Minister so I’m assuming it has some relevance to Canada:
Mentioned Muslims (from the craziness on Saturday that I just thought was funny) and I’ve seen the word Groomers now outside this forum. It’s pretty over the top compared to the Canadian media, but it’s a weathervane of an extreme position with the most extreme examples that could be found.

Again, we have a Friend that’s Trans, but not militant about it. This person is living out of the city at this point so I haven’t had the chance to shoot the shit with him (Trans Man) since Christmas time-ish, but I’d be very curious to hear his opinion on this one….
 

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does anyone else think this airforce pride flag should say (the other mile-high club)?

:?D
 

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And what do you do when part of the population has no issue paying their taxes for things you might find "unneeded"?

Crooks?

So if I don't want my taxes to pay for education for example (since I don't have a dog in that game, as it were) I should start calling Government crooks?
The government is worse than crooks. Moffia would be more accurate. The people that wish to pay needless taxes can certainly do so if they wish. But anything other than essential services and repairs should have to be voted on.
our highways are falling apart, but the regional district has been buy doing parks that don’t need much of what is going on. Our closest one just got a BMX track built that required buying and hauling over 300 loads of dirt in. Now, these are two different levels of government, but there is only one level of taxpayer to pay for it all. So we need more control over what bureaucrats and vote buying politicians can spend money on.
 
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The government is worse than crooks. Moffia would be more accurate. The people that wish to pay needless taxes can certainly do so if they wish. But anything other than essential services and repairs should have to be voted on.
our highways are falling apart, but the regional district has been buy doing parks that don’t need much of what is going on. Our closest one just got a BMX track built that required buying and hauling over 300 loads of dirt in. Now, these are two different levels of government, but there is only one level of taxpayer to pay for it all. So we need more control over what bureaucrats and vote buying politicians can spend money on.
As has always been the case .
 

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The government is worse than crooks. Moffia would be more accurate. The people that wish to pay needless taxes can certainly do so if they wish. But anything other than essential services and repairs should have to be voted on.

Oh I'm all for submitting at tax time a 'check list' of things I want MY taxes spent on.

"Essential services" does that include health care? Education?


our highways are falling apart, but the regional district has been buy doing parks that don’t need much of what is going on. Our closest one just got a BMX track built that required buying and hauling over 300 loads of dirt in. Now, these are two different levels of government, but there is only one level of taxpayer to pay for it all. So we need more control over what bureaucrats and vote buying politicians can spend money on.

For a while a few years back, highways in NB weren't having the usual maintenance clearing done on the sides of the road because they didn't have the funds. And on secondary highways, driving through long stretches of woods, that's dangerous AF. Moose and deer collisions with vehicles of course went up, so they stopped letting that shit happen.

While I agree we the people need more control over spending, not everyone can agree what money is spent on. And while as I said I'd be all for selecting where MY personal contributions go to, in the end, I am also aware that leads to a totally unbalanced system, more than we have now. It'd be easier to just deny vote buying/lobbying.
 

Ron in Regina

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This is from the CBC:

Pierre Poilievre said the prime minister has no business weighing in on New Brunswick's Policy 713 on LGBTQ students, even as the federal Conservative leader called on Justin Trudeau to "let parents raise kids."

The policy was designed to protect LGBTQ students in schools. But earlier this year, New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative government made changes that, in part, will no longer require teachers to use the chosen names and pronouns of transgender or non-binary students under 16 without parental consent.

At a Tuesday event in Moncton critiquing carbon taxation and the cost of living, Poilievre was asked whether he stands with New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs on the changes to Policy 713. He called it "provincial policy."

"I know that Justin Trudeau has butted into that. The prime minister has no business in decisions that should rest with provinces and parents," he said.

"So my message to Justin Trudeau is, 'Butt out and let provinces run schools and let parents raise kids.'"

The changes on Policy 713 prompted backlash from within Higgs's own cabinet, including numerous resignations by ministers who objected to his leadership style. On Tuesday morning, Higgs shuffled his cabinet to replace two ministers who voted against him on a resolution calling for more consultations on the school gender-identity policy.

Trudeau weighed in on the policy at a Pride event in Toronto about three weeks ago, saying "right now, trans kids in New Brunswick are being told they don't have the right to be their true selves, that they need to ask permission."

"Trans kids need to feel safe, not targeted by politicians," said Trudeau. "We need to stand against this."
 

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This is from the CBC:

Pierre Poilievre said the prime minister has no business weighing in on New Brunswick's Policy 713 on LGBTQ students, even as the federal Conservative leader called on Justin Trudeau to "let parents raise kids."

The policy was designed to protect LGBTQ students in schools. But earlier this year, New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative government made changes that, in part, will no longer require teachers to use the chosen names and pronouns of transgender or non-binary students under 16 without parental consent.

At a Tuesday event in Moncton critiquing carbon taxation and the cost of living, Poilievre was asked whether he stands with New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs on the changes to Policy 713. He called it "provincial policy."

"I know that Justin Trudeau has butted into that. The prime minister has no business in decisions that should rest with provinces and parents," he said.

"So my message to Justin Trudeau is, 'Butt out and let provinces run schools and let parents raise kids.'"

The changes on Policy 713 prompted backlash from within Higgs's own cabinet, including numerous resignations by ministers who objected to his leadership style. On Tuesday morning, Higgs shuffled his cabinet to replace two ministers who voted against him on a resolution calling for more consultations on the school gender-identity policy.

Trudeau weighed in on the policy at a Pride event in Toronto about three weeks ago, saying "right now, trans kids in New Brunswick are being told they don't have the right to be their true selves, that they need to ask permission."

"Trans kids need to feel safe, not targeted by politicians," said Trudeau. "We need to stand against this."

"Let parents raise kids". Funny, that's what Higgs said.

I'll give PP credit though, he is right, this is a provincial issue.

But Trudeau is allowed to share his opinion, just like anyone else. Else PP should have STFU too and not said "Let parents raise kids".

Funny that right now the province ISN'T running the schools all that well, and teachers thus far have no clue what they're supposed to do, but don't let that get in the way of the issue I suppose.

Lastly, Trudeau is right, trans kids in NB DON'T have the right to be themselves thanks to this change of Higgs's. They have to either be outed to, or come out to, parents, maybe before they're ready to, just to be themselves. Kids DO need to feel safe, that's why 713 was set up, to give those kids a safe space.

And many in NB right now support Trudeau's point of view, NOT Higgs.
 

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"Let parents raise kids". Funny, that's what Higgs said.

I'll give PP credit though, he is right, this is a provincial issue.

But Trudeau is allowed to share his opinion, just like anyone else. Else PP should have STFU too and not said "Let parents raise kids".

Funny that right now the province ISN'T running the schools all that well, and teachers thus far have no clue what they're supposed to do, but don't let that get in the way of the issue I suppose.

Lastly, Trudeau is right, trans kids in NB DON'T have the right to be themselves thanks to this change of Higgs's. They have to either be outed to, or come out to, parents, maybe before they're ready to, just to be themselves. Kids DO need to feel safe, that's why 713 was set up, to give those kids a safe space.

And many in NB right now support Trudeau's point of view, NOT Higgs.
Trudeau is allowed to share his opinion , but Poilierve should shut the fu-k up .
 
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