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petros

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Move to Texas. They require teachers to have six whole hours of training to pack heat.
Question for ya Little Caesar, how many hours do you feel it takes to gain competency in securing a 30 X 40 room with one door? Its a very specific tactic with only 2 possible outcomes.

How many hours of training do teen active shooters have in breaching a room?

As many as you do?
 
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Serryah

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Consequences of all this fear around GLBTQIA+ issues.

Legit, honest question here; considering the push against, what is there really to hold someone who is GLBTQIA+ to a place, even with a career that is important like this doctor? Is his loss, and the loss to his patients, worth all these fear-focused bills?
 

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Consequences of all this fear around GLBTQIA+ issues.

Legit, honest question here; considering the push against, what is there really to hold someone who is GLBTQIA+ to a place, even with a career that is important like this doctor? Is his loss, and the loss to his patients, worth all these fear-focused bills?
If you hate gays, yes.
 

petros

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Consequences of all this fear around GLBTQIA+ issues.

Legit, honest question here; considering the push against, what is there really to hold someone who is GLBTQIA+ to a place, even with a career that is important like this doctor? Is his loss, and the loss to his patients, worth all these fear-focused bills?
Fear? Fear of what?
 

Ron in Regina

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Consequences of all this fear around GLBTQIA+ issues.

Legit, honest question here; considering the push against, what is there really to hold someone who is GLBTQIA+ to a place, even with a career that is important like this doctor? Is his loss, and the loss to his patients, worth all these fear-focused bills?
Honest question here. The paediatric cardiologist in the video & his spouse, where they informed by that school that their kids were being teased (?) or where the kids encouraged to keep it secret by school policy in fear of the reaction of the parents to the children’s safety?

Were the kids told that if they didn’t want to tell their parents, then the school system was sworn to secrecy based upon the children’s wishes?
 
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Honest question here. The paediatric cardiologist in the video & his spouse, where they informed by that school that their kids were being teased (?) or where the kids encouraged to keep it secret by school policy in fear of the reaction of the parents to the children’s safety?

Were the kids told that if they didn’t want to tell their parents, then the school system was sworn to secrecy based upon the children’s wishes?
You noticed that too huh? Or that the new job is owning his own clinic?
 
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Honest question here. The paediatric cardiologist in the video & his spouse, where they informed by that school that their kids were being teased (?) or where the kids encouraged to keep it secret by school policy in fear of the reaction of the parents to the children’s safety?

Neither; the kids were not teased.

He said IF his kids were made fun of, the teacher could NOT turn it into a learning situation to discuss diverse families. So instead of the other kid learning that not all families are a mom and dad, but could be other things too, the kid would just be dealt with for being a bully with no explanation.

Were the kids told that if they didn’t want to tell their parents, then the school system was sworn to secrecy based upon the children’s wishes?

I know what you're trying to do but there. There is no comparison really between them and if you can't see why... I honestly don't know what to say to that.
 

petros

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How the fuck do you know that theyd be bullied? Ever think they might be the bullies? What they might face is merely retribution for being bullies rather than soup hate?

What are you? An advocate or a bully?
 

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If it was a school arbitrarily doing so, sure. In the case of NB, it wasn't arbitrary, rather a policy for a year or two before Higgs got his panties in a knot over it and had to make up lies to get it changed.

In the SK case, I think they looked at what NB went through and made things "firm" from the get go.

But schools put in policies all the time about how to deal with issues with students, there's not normally this kind of outcry over it, but then again, kids lives usually aren't at risk like they are with this kind of thing.



See above.

In the case of NB?



How many parents, I don't know, I keep getting the updated, 2023 stuff, nothing from 2020.



Who the hell decided that they have the authority over GLBTQIA+ kids that aren't their kids to make the decision to have those kids outed to parents?



You'd hope it'd be the exception, but look on this board, look in the real world. Too many kids LIVE the exception for it to BE an exception. Exception implies it's rare, and kids being kicked out, abused, and pushed to suicidal ideation is not rare at all.
Imagine an education system where teachers serve a dual role: both educator and secret informant. Teachers “out” children to parents at the sign of any behaviour or expression deemed outside gender norms. Such efforts ensure parents retain full control over their child’s thoughts and development and prevent the ultimate calamity: the contemplation of a cross-gender transition.

Such a world seems to be all LGBT activists can imagine if Canadian schools were to involve parents in decisions surrounding social gender transitions. Progressive writers have taken hardline positions branding parental involvement in name and pronoun usage as “outing” a child against their will. Proceeding with a gender intervention apart from parents has been described as the only path forward in a matter fraught with life-or-death implications.

The activist narrative is as follows: if students are “outed” by teachers, then those students struggling with gender dysphoria will be unable to explore their feelings with the only adults who can readily support them. Inevitably, these bottled-up feelings will lead to tragic life-or-death situations. We simply cannot take this risk.

Currently, in most provinces, if a child wishes to transition without parents knowing, teachers will unquestionably adopt the new name and pronouns and convey this change to the entire classroom by virtue of its public usage. Notes are prepared for supply teachers and other assistants to clarify that “Timothy” on the attendance record should be interacted with as “Tracy.” Those who interact with the household are made aware that the affirmed name and pronouns should not be used when speaking with the parents, at risk of “outing” the child.
 

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Imagine an education system where teachers serve a dual role: both educator and secret informant. Teachers “out” children to parents at the sign of any behaviour or expression deemed outside gender norms. Such efforts ensure parents retain full control over their child’s thoughts and development and prevent the ultimate calamity: the contemplation of a cross-gender transition.

Such a world seems to be all LGBT activists can imagine if Canadian schools were to involve parents in decisions surrounding social gender transitions. Progressive writers have taken hardline positions branding parental involvement in name and pronoun usage as “outing” a child against their will. Proceeding with a gender intervention apart from parents has been described as the only path forward in a matter fraught with life-or-death implications.

The activist narrative is as follows: if students are “outed” by teachers, then those students struggling with gender dysphoria will be unable to explore their feelings with the only adults who can readily support them. Inevitably, these bottled-up feelings will lead to tragic life-or-death situations. We simply cannot take this risk.

Currently, in most provinces, if a child wishes to transition without parents knowing, teachers will unquestionably adopt the new name and pronouns and convey this change to the entire classroom by virtue of its public usage. Notes are prepared for supply teachers and other assistants to clarify that “Timothy” on the attendance record should be interacted with as “Tracy.” Those who interact with the household are made aware that the affirmed name and pronouns should not be used when speaking with the parents, at risk of “outing” the child.
Yep. Arguing from extremes. The left says "If a poor widdle trans kid trusts a teacher, they'll be RATTED OUT to far-right Catholic Nazi parents who will TORTURE THEM TO DEATH!" Just like the left says "Any limits on abortion will cause mother and foetus to die even when every doctor in the country lines up and swears that there is NO HOPE of survival for them!" And like the right says "All non-cis-hetero people are CHILD MOLESTERS!" and "Allowing abortion under any circumstances will lead to widdle bee-bees being RIPPED FROM THE WOMB during actual birth and fed to the hounds! Or spirited away to be molested by EEE-vil Satan-worshipping trans faggot child molesters!"