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Uganda enacts harsh anti-LGBTQ law including death penalty
Author of the article:Reuters
Reuters
Published May 29, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 4 minute read

KAMPALA — Uganda’s President Yoweri Museveni signed one of the world’s toughest anti-LGBTQ laws, including the death penalty for “aggravated homosexuality,” drawing Western condemnation and risking sanctions from aid donors.


Same-sex relations were already illegal in Uganda, as in more than 30 African countries, but the new law goes further.


It stipulates capital punishment for “serial offenders” against the law and transmission of a terminal illness like HIV/AIDS through gay sex. It also decrees a 20-year sentence for “promoting” homosexuality.

“The Ugandan president has today legalized state-sponsored homophobia and transphobia,” said Clare Byarugaba, a Ugandan rights activist.

United States President Joe Biden called the move “a tragic violation” of human rights and said Washington would evaluate the implications of the law “on all aspects of U.S. engagement with Uganda.”

“We are considering additional steps, including the application of sanctions and restriction of entry into the United States against anyone involved in serious human rights abuses or corruption,” he said.


A presidency photo of Museveni showed him signing the law with a golden pen at his desk. The 78-year-old has called homosexuality a “deviation from normal” and urged lawmakers to resist “imperialist” pressure.

A local organization, Human Rights Awareness and Promotion Forum, and 10 other individuals later filed a complaint against the law at the constitutional court, one of the petitioners, Busingye Kabumba, told Reuters.

Museveni had sent the original bill passed in March back, asking parliament to tone down some provisions. But his ultimate approval was not seen as in doubt in a conservative country where anti-LGBTQ attitudes have hardened in recent years, in part due to campaigning by Western evangelical church groups.


Uganda receives billions of dollars in foreign aid each year and could now face adverse measures from donors and investors, as happened with a similar bill nine years ago.

REPRISALS?
The bill’s sponsor, Asuman Basalirwa, told reporters that parliament speaker Anita Among’s U.S. visa was cancelled after the law was signed. Among and the U.S. embassy in Uganda did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


In a joint statement, the U.S.’s flagship HIV/AIDS program PEPFAR, the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, and the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) said the law put Uganda’s anti-HIV fight “in grave jeopardy.”

Dominic Arnall, chief executive of Open For Business, a coalition of companies that includes Google and Microsoft, said the group was deeply disappointed and the law ran counter to Ugandans’ economic interests.


The UN human rights body declared itself “appalled.”

Uganda’s move could encourage lawmakers in neighbouring Kenya and Tanzania seeking similar measures.

“What a leader we’ve in Africa!” tweeted George Kaluma, a Kenyan member of parliament who submitted an anti-LGBTQ bill in April.

“Kenya is following you in this endeavor to save humanity.”

The inclusion of the death penalty for offenses like transmitting HIV has drawn particular outrage internationally.

Existing Ugandan law calls for a maximum 10-year sentence for intentionally transmitting HIV and does not apply when the person who contracted the infection was aware of their sexual partner’s HIV status.

By contrast, the new law makes no distinction between intentional and unintentional transmission and contains no exception based on awareness of HIV status.


The amended version of the bill, adopted earlier this month after Museveni returned it to parliament, stipulated that merely identifying as LGBTQ is not a crime and revised a measure that obliged people to report homosexual activity to only require reporting when a child is involved.

‘LIKE APARTHEID’
LGBTQ Ugandans called those changes useless, saying law enforcement regularly exceeds its legal authorities to harass them. They said passage of the bill in March unleashed a wave of arrests, evictions and mob attacks.

The issue has been a long-running one in Uganda.

A less restrictive 2014 anti-LGBTQ law was struck down by a Ugandan court on procedural grounds, after Western governments had initially suspended some aid, imposed visa restrictions and curtailed security cooperation.


In 2009, a bill dubbed “kill the gays” for initially proposing executing homosexuals was introduced after a conference in Kampala drew representatives from the United States including prominent anti-gay evangelical Scott Lively.

As well as religious campaigning, Africa’s anti-LGBTQ attitudes also have their roots in the colonial era, including an anti-sodomy section of Britain’s penal code. By the time the U.K. legalized same-sex acts in 1967, many former colonies were independent and did not inherit the legal change.

“To reduce any kind of human being, irrespective of their sexuality, to a death sentence based on who they identify as and how they choose to live their lives is something that we should all feel very ashamed about as a continent,” said South African filmmaker Lerato.

“We can liken this to apartheid if not worse.”
 

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Nah, conservatives want him to not exist. By whatever means.
I honestly don't know why conservatives are given such a hard time considering we're the ones who are more compassionate, more charitable, more tolerant, (some) are more religious, have more self reliance & common sense. While there are those who hate religion, most "religious" conservatives are kind & willing to do almost anything to help others rather than rely on governments for anything they need. Apparently, that's now become a no-no & we MUST rely on government for pretty much everything including what to say, how to think & what to feel cuz feelings are important!!

God, how did we ever get to where we are? Likely because Conservatives want to be left alone & weren't paying attention to the Marxist/socialist drive to destroy our country as it is & bring some sort of "utopia??" which, considering we're all human, has never & will never be successful. We have people who are too greedy & wanting power over everything & everyone (WEF anyone?). We need to DRIVE this B.S. out of our schools, colleges & Corporations in order to survive. Obviously no one has been taught about Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Trotsky, Lenin etc. They'll learn that what is coming down the pipe (if we don't change) will not be to anyone's advantage & why they want to re-write history. These dudes were truly bad but they started exactly the way things are taking shape now. Beware!!!
 

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I honestly don't know why conservatives are given such a hard time considering we're the ones who are more compassionate, more charitable, more tolerant, (some) are more religious, have more self reliance & common sense. While there are those who hate religion, most "religious" conservatives are kind & willing to do almost anything to help others rather than rely on governments for anything they need. Apparently, that's now become a no-no & we MUST rely on government for pretty much everything including what to say, how to think & what to feel cuz feelings are important!!

God, how did we ever get to where we are? Likely because Conservatives want to be left alone & weren't paying attention to the Marxist/socialist drive to destroy our country as it is & bring some sort of "utopia??" which, considering we're all human, has never & will never be successful. We have people who are too greedy & wanting power over everything & everyone (WEF anyone?). We need to DRIVE this B.S. out of our schools, colleges & Corporations in order to survive. Obviously no one has been taught about Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Trotsky, Lenin etc. They'll learn that what is coming down the pipe (if we don't change) will not be to anyone's advantage & why they want to re-write history. These dudes were truly bad but they started exactly the way things are taking shape now. Beware!!!
But the left are the compassionate . Didn’t you see them display it during Covid ? Unions failing to protect workers even cheering on when 20% off their workforce was thrown under the bus and fired . Now those unions are crying about loss of dues paying members .
 

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I’m confused- which one is “Sexualizing” your child by performing in public again?
Um, neither. Because you don't know what the definition of sexualization is. What children in either photo are being regarded as sex objects? Oh wait, there are no children in those photos.
Those fucking stupid "beauty pageants" for kids, now THAT'S some serious sexualization of children and it's fucking sickening. But the photo and "question" you posted, that's just laughable.
 
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Um, neither. Because you don't know what the definition of sexualization is. What children in either photo are being regarded as sex objects? Oh wait, there are no children in those photos.
Those fucking stupid "beauty pageants" for kids, now THAT'S some serious sexualization of children and it's fucking sickening. But the photo and "question" you posted, that's just laughable.

Well, I agree that yes, the kiddo "beauty pageants" are the ones that sexualize kids and IMO more needs to be done to stop the fucking things. If anything, the LACK of action at all on it is pretty hypocritical.

As for the image and text, got it from FB. *shrug*

Think, despite poor wording, the point was people freaking out over people who dress in Drag reading to kids and maybe dancing and singing with kids, somehow equals "grooming" and "sexualizing", or exposing kids to sex/adult things... whereas half time for the Cowboys somehow isn't? Or other dancing for that matter; depending on the style, it can get pretty raunchy. Or restaurants, like Hooters - which allows 'kids' to go - but it's got a clear focus on more 'adult' things by it's very nature even if it is a restaurant.

Point being, there are a lot of things that have "adult" levels to it, and then more regular "Joe Public/Family/Kid" friendly. Can drag be adult? Absolutely. Can it be for kids? Absolutely. Why does someone HAVE to dress in Drag just to read to kids? I don't know, why do some people HAVE to get into, say, a character from a movie to go see sick kids? (Thinking Depp as Jack Sparrow, for example). Because it's not about WHAT they're dressed up as, it's to ENTERTAIN kids.

People just need to get over it.
 

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Uganda enacts harsh anti-LGBTQ law including death penalty
Author of the article:Reuters
Reuters
Published May 29, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 4 minute read

KAMPALA — Uganda’s President Yoweri Museveni signed one of the world’s toughest anti-LGBTQ laws, including the death penalty for “aggravated homosexuality,” drawing Western condemnation and risking sanctions from aid donors.


Same-sex relations were already illegal in Uganda, as in more than 30 African countries, but the new law goes further.


It stipulates capital punishment for “serial offenders” against the law and transmission of a terminal illness like HIV/AIDS through gay sex. It also decrees a 20-year sentence for “promoting” homosexuality.

“The Ugandan president has today legalized state-sponsored homophobia and transphobia,” said Clare Byarugaba, a Ugandan rights activist.

United States President Joe Biden called the move “a tragic violation” of human rights and said Washington would evaluate the implications of the law “on all aspects of U.S. engagement with Uganda.”

“We are considering additional steps, including the application of sanctions and restriction of entry into the United States against anyone involved in serious human rights abuses or corruption,” he said.


A presidency photo of Museveni showed him signing the law with a golden pen at his desk. The 78-year-old has called homosexuality a “deviation from normal” and urged lawmakers to resist “imperialist” pressure.

A local organization, Human Rights Awareness and Promotion Forum, and 10 other individuals later filed a complaint against the law at the constitutional court, one of the petitioners, Busingye Kabumba, told Reuters.

Museveni had sent the original bill passed in March back, asking parliament to tone down some provisions. But his ultimate approval was not seen as in doubt in a conservative country where anti-LGBTQ attitudes have hardened in recent years, in part due to campaigning by Western evangelical church groups.


Uganda receives billions of dollars in foreign aid each year and could now face adverse measures from donors and investors, as happened with a similar bill nine years ago.

REPRISALS?
The bill’s sponsor, Asuman Basalirwa, told reporters that parliament speaker Anita Among’s U.S. visa was cancelled after the law was signed. Among and the U.S. embassy in Uganda did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


In a joint statement, the U.S.’s flagship HIV/AIDS program PEPFAR, the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, and the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) said the law put Uganda’s anti-HIV fight “in grave jeopardy.”

Dominic Arnall, chief executive of Open For Business, a coalition of companies that includes Google and Microsoft, said the group was deeply disappointed and the law ran counter to Ugandans’ economic interests.


The UN human rights body declared itself “appalled.”

Uganda’s move could encourage lawmakers in neighbouring Kenya and Tanzania seeking similar measures.

“What a leader we’ve in Africa!” tweeted George Kaluma, a Kenyan member of parliament who submitted an anti-LGBTQ bill in April.

“Kenya is following you in this endeavor to save humanity.”

The inclusion of the death penalty for offenses like transmitting HIV has drawn particular outrage internationally.

Existing Ugandan law calls for a maximum 10-year sentence for intentionally transmitting HIV and does not apply when the person who contracted the infection was aware of their sexual partner’s HIV status.

By contrast, the new law makes no distinction between intentional and unintentional transmission and contains no exception based on awareness of HIV status.


The amended version of the bill, adopted earlier this month after Museveni returned it to parliament, stipulated that merely identifying as LGBTQ is not a crime and revised a measure that obliged people to report homosexual activity to only require reporting when a child is involved.

‘LIKE APARTHEID’
LGBTQ Ugandans called those changes useless, saying law enforcement regularly exceeds its legal authorities to harass them. They said passage of the bill in March unleashed a wave of arrests, evictions and mob attacks.

The issue has been a long-running one in Uganda.

A less restrictive 2014 anti-LGBTQ law was struck down by a Ugandan court on procedural grounds, after Western governments had initially suspended some aid, imposed visa restrictions and curtailed security cooperation.


In 2009, a bill dubbed “kill the gays” for initially proposing executing homosexuals was introduced after a conference in Kampala drew representatives from the United States including prominent anti-gay evangelical Scott Lively.

As well as religious campaigning, Africa’s anti-LGBTQ attitudes also have their roots in the colonial era, including an anti-sodomy section of Britain’s penal code. By the time the U.K. legalized same-sex acts in 1967, many former colonies were independent and did not inherit the legal change.

“To reduce any kind of human being, irrespective of their sexuality, to a death sentence based on who they identify as and how they choose to live their lives is something that we should all feel very ashamed about as a continent,” said South African filmmaker Lerato.

“We can liken this to apartheid if not worse.”

Sad thing is, Ted Cruz actually was RIGHT when discussing this. You DON'T just murder and ADULT for having consensual ADULT sex with someone of the same sex. If you want to label yourself somehow as a 'free' country, you can't do shit like that.

And before someone brings up the law and how it doesn't say that; it's too ambiguous and broad reaching. In other words, it doesn't NOT say it either. It says no underage sex and also someone who hasn't been coerced (in a nutshell) but all it would take for someone who ruin another's life is to claim they were "lured" into it and that omg NO they're not GAY at all! Any bad/horrible relationship break up could have someone claim this and boom, murder charge.

All this, because of US influence to help push the agenda to "kill all the gays".
 

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Sad thing is, Ted Cruz actually was RIGHT when discussing this. You DON'T just murder and ADULT for having consensual ADULT sex with someone of the same sex. If you want to label yourself somehow as a 'free' country, you can't do shit like that.

And before someone brings up the law and how it doesn't say that; it's too ambiguous and broad reaching. In other words, it doesn't NOT say it either. It says no underage sex and also someone who hasn't been coerced (in a nutshell) but all it would take for someone who ruin another's life is to claim they were "lured" into it and that omg NO they're not GAY at all! Any bad/horrible relationship break up could have someone claim this and boom, murder charge.

All this, because of US influence to help push the agenda to "kill all the gays".
Have they started the killing yet ?
 

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I honestly don't know why conservatives are given such a hard time considering we're the ones who are more compassionate, more charitable, more tolerant, (some) are more religious, have more self reliance & common sense. While there are those who hate religion, most "religious" conservatives are kind & willing to do almost anything to help others rather than rely on governments for anything they need. Apparently, that's now become a no-no & we MUST rely on government for pretty much everything including what to say, how to think & what to feel cuz feelings are important!!

God, how did we ever get to where we are? Likely because Conservatives want to be left alone & weren't paying attention to the Marxist/socialist drive to destroy our country as it is & bring some sort of "utopia??" which, considering we're all human, has never & will never be successful. We have people who are too greedy & wanting power over everything & everyone (WEF anyone?). We need to DRIVE this B.S. out of our schools, colleges & Corporations in order to survive. Obviously no one has been taught about Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Trotsky, Lenin etc. They'll learn that what is coming down the pipe (if we don't change) will not be to anyone's advantage & why they want to re-write history. These dudes were truly bad but they started exactly the way things are taking shape now. Beware!!!
Is "your" country destroyed yet?