2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
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Mowich

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I hope you get to view the Clintons and the Jeckle Island crowd on orgy island instead, all 16,000 hrs of it.
With Obama you couldn't even make fun of his dumbo sized ears. Trump seems like he can take a hit without freaking out. He is pretty fast on comebacks so not many will be getting the upper hand with him.

Donald Trump is a bully and they never take kindly to being humiliated. In addition, he has a prodigious memory when it comes to the slightest of slights and does everything he can to get back at the person/s he holds responsible.

That said, Donald Trump is a brand and as such he is very aware of what works and what doesn't for that brand. He knew that he could get away with all the misogynistic comments, the sexual innuendos, the buffoonery and the lies because he understood the appeal of his brand to the demographic he was targeting. Check out some of the comments from his supporters who though they may have been appalled by some or much of his rhetoric still believed that he had a better understanding of their problems then anyone else.

I don't like Trump, never having been attracted to folks who felt it necessary if not their god-given right to flaunt their wealth. That said, in the early days of the campaign he said something that immediately hit home with me. It was the remark he made about political correctness running amok or words to that effect. With that one sentence, I remember thinking, millions and millions of people just sat up and started paying attention and never stopped.

It will be interesting to see where he takes his brand now. I would not be the least bit surprised to find that his targeted demographic has expanded considerably and that the Pres-elect we saw last night is the latest in a long line of tweaks. I would like to think so especially as the emotional health of a nation is sadly in need of a kinder gentler Donald Trump.
 

pgs

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just watched Obama's speech, he certainly has the gift of high moral character and humanity, and spoke

eloquently about 'the day after' and how everyone has to move forward now, democracy has spoken, it was

a hard tough battle, as all campaigns are, and if we all take a page from his ability to see clearly how

life goes on, and all have to stand together, then maybe even on this forum it could be possible for some

to reign it in a bit, behave with more class, and look to tomorrow and not drag along carrying the past

in the same manner as has been. Hillary and her followers have to swallow hard now, and chin up move on,

trump has to figure out how to be president, and that's about as simple as it is. take a big breath

everyone, life goes on, and its sunny today, I have a new puppy coming in a week or so, I am peparing my

living room, turned it into a pet room, any valuables are gone from that room, jake and I will be sleeping

on the couch in that room, close to puppy (named sam), and it is very exciting indeed, can't wait.

this election is over, we have more important things to think about.

the media is still spouting all of their nonsense, tune them out, that's what I'm doing, I just listen

to actual news, as the media want to drag this on, and gather as much negative information as they can,

its empty information.
So did you revise your opinion of George Bush after Obama's gracious words ?
 

EagleSmack

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The establishment is simply going to have to start paying attention to that dreaded working middle class. As they said on CNN... they spoke loudly and will no longer be ignored.

The Democrat model of division did not work... their ground game did not work. Calling everyone with a different point of view a racist, xenophobe, mysoginist, homophobe did not work. Their lies and insults simply energized us.
 

pgs

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you and me both dude but don't hold your breath on these self-righteous arseholes on either side of the border. our local fifth estaters are our moral and intellectual superiors dontcha know.

the yank press, tv and social media engineers will play at and encourage obstructionist behavior along with the clinton's and their ilk out of elite spite. you watch.

she's had her eye on this office since the early 90s. every single thing she's done since then has been with that goal in mind. and here comes an alpha male who has zero political credentials and takes it right out of her hands. not only that, but by doing so he has essentially taken away her livelihood. no one is going to be writing $300k checks for her or rapist billy to give speeches anymore.

at least intelligence did prevail. they didn't elect an incompetent criminal who couldn't figure out how emails work.

praise be to pepe and the alt-right.
Yup the rug was pulled out from under her feet once again . I am sure she is not a pleasant person to be around right now .
 

Murphy

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I have to post this video. I know Neil would hate the idea of being part of a congratulatory Trump thread. In reality, the song is about his old car, but most people don't care.

Long May You Run

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gttIc5avsZw
 

darkbeaver

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And 5,000-1 outsiders Leicester City won the Premier League, becoming English champions for the first time ever.

What a year this has been.

It has been a good year, many more to come, I hope, I respect your religious beliefs.
 

Bar Sinister

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Well, looks like hell can freeze over. Like most viewers of the US election I went with the polls; especially those that had been so accurate previously. Good luck to the Yanks they are going to need it. I must say the Dumspter's acceptance speech gave some hope for the future, however, the talk of bringing America together sounds very hollow coming from the mouth of the man who worked so hard to divide it.

I see real problems for the US and for Trump himself actually. Has he forgotten that he insulted and denigrated many senior members of the Republican Party? He is going to find that getting things done in the US system is going to be very difficult and it may be made more difficult by some members of his own party that may hold grudges.

He is also going to have severe difficulty upholding many of his campaign promises. For example, is he going to keep his promise of lowering taxes; something that has been shown repeatedly to only help the wealthy, or is he going to try to create jobs for the lower class voters who supported him? Is he going to cancel the US Health Care program initiated by Obama without finding something else to replace it? Remember that many of the Dumpster's supporters depend on that program for whatever health care they have.

Also, many of his promises cannot be kept. The wall between the US and Mexico is simply not practical; not unless he is willing to spend billions building it; billions more maintaining it; and further billions manning it. After all, a wall without guards is useless.

Also, just how is he going to talk China into lowering the rate of interest on the US T-Bills it holds? Those bills come at a fixed rate and cannot be changed. Is he even aware that the total debt owed to foreign nations like China is only a fraction of the actual debt - most of it is owed to his fellow Americans.

There is more, but it would take too long to detail all of it. But I am guessing that one of the Dumpster's biggest problems is that he does not react well to criticism or people who try to get in his way. What is he going to do when opponents in Congress use delaying tactics to block his legislation - we have already seen that such tactics worked very well for the Republicans and what one paty can do another party can copy.
 

Murphy

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It sounds like you do not react well to democratic elections. Half the voters wanted him in the WH. He'll be there in January.

Save the invective until he starts messing up. He has four years. As Hillary and Obama said, he's the pres. Get behind him. It's about the country, not personal feelings.
 

Mowich

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It sounds like you do not react well to democratic elections. Half the voters wanted him in the WH. He'll be there in January.

Save the invective until he starts messing up. He has four years. As Hillary and Obama said, he's the pres. Get behind him. It's about the country, not personal feelings.

Invective aside, Bar does raise some interesting points about the ability of Trump to actually carry out some his promises.
 

Murphy

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He hasn't spent a day in office. He is a successful businessman. BS is speculating. Rail against him before his first failure? No. There are four years to do that. Believe me, in any capital, failure depends on the party of which you're a member.

I cannot think of any politician that made good on all his promises. The biggest hurdle Trump will have is dealing with the bureaucracy and uncivilized servants.
 

darkbeaver

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To make America great, all they have to do is back up, that's doable ,just back up collect thier wits and bam, solution

God help us if we have a snow removal problem this winter. Washington can't help. Are we doomned, maybe.
 

Remington1

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He hasn't spent a day in office. He is a successful businessman. BS is speculating. Rail against him before his first failure? No. There are four years to do that. Believe me, in any capital, failure depends on the party of which you're a member.

I cannot think of any politician that made good on all his promises. The biggest hurdle Trump will have is dealing with the bureaucracy and uncivilized servants.
True enough, but he will need to deal with the millions of Americans he's pissed off. In a democracy people hold the right to protest, and he will pay the consequence of his extreme arrogance and insolence. He had some great idea, but his delivery was oh so wrong.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Any word on the Republican Party Autopsy results?

Foolish liberals

Clearly they are in deep trouble. Not having the White House, House or Senate under their belts.

Lot's of angry people in the US, and rightfully so. Hopefully, the protest will remain peaceful.

Rightly so? They put their X on the wrong side of the ballot. It happens. We live in a democracy. We can't always vote for a winner every time. Suck it up.

He hasn't spent a day in office. He is a successful businessman. BS is speculating. Rail against him before his first failure? No. There are four years to do that. Believe me, in any capital, failure depends on the party of which you're a member.

That's what we were told with Justin. We had to give him time.
 

Murphy

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What people are doing now is blowing steam. They are protesting, but they will tire of it and go home.

As far as paying for the consequence of his extreme arrogance, all he has done to date was get elected as president. He hasn't had the chance to really be arrogant yet. Half the country may not like him, but the other half do. Trump isn't to blame for any of this, the voters are.

WRT having your say, you'll all get your chance to bash him in the coming months. Just remember that whether a person is right or wrong depends on which side of the fence he stands.
 

darkbeaver

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True enough, but he will need to deal with the millions of Americans he's pissed off. In a democracy people hold the right to protest, and he will pay the consequence of his extreme arrogance and insolence. He had some great idea, but his delivery was oh so wrong.
He's delivered himself into high office because of his charm. The millions who did noit respond to his charms can be herded into labour zones and consumned for the new state, the production of heat sanctifys thier love of citizenship,
you are certainly and ereedeamably insane
get some sleep