2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

Walter

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Jan 28, 2007
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Yet you keep supporting those who want to make gubmint bigger and more ubiquitous.
 

selfsame

Time Out
Jul 13, 2015
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I think it makes no difference anyone may come; it is only different faces, but the same policy and the same pre-planned programs.

They compete for the salary of the president and for their salary and privilege when they will retire.
 

tay

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May 20, 2012
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The pendulum is starting to swing the other way and the leftoids are panicking.....ROFLMAO

Yes they are as it looks like the Corporates will win......

Bernie Sanders said Sunday that while the Democrats' platform draft includes some major victories for his presidential campaign, there is still work to be done.

"But we lost some very important fights. We're going to take that fight to Orlando, where the entire committee meets in two weeks, and if we don't succeed there, we're certainly going to take it to the floor of the Democratic convention."

The platform draft includes some major victories for the Sanders camp but diverges from his policies enough to give him ammo going into the Democratic National Convention in late July.

The platform draft committee took a first step toward giving Sanders a major concession, voting to adopt language in support of a $15 minimum wage.

The 15-person committee, chaired by Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), finalized its draft of the guiding document Saturday in St. Louis after lengthy negotiations.

The panel also aligned itself with progressive ideas such as abolishing the death penalty and expanding Social Security, The Associated Press reported. The minimum wage language adopted echoes a common refrain from Sanders, calling the current federal minimum of $7.25 a "starvation wage."

The platform also tackled financial reform by calling for "an updated and modernized version of Glass-Steagall."

But the panel did block several proposals favored by Sanders and his supporters. It refused to adopt a proposed amendment that would have opposed President Obama on the TPP — both Sanders and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton (she earlier was in favor of it) have spoken against the trade deal. Instead, the panel backed a measure that acknowledged "a diversity of views in the party" on the TPP.

It also rejected amendments putting a national freeze on fracking, imposing a carbon tax and promoting a single-payer healthcare system.

Sanders: 'We lost some very important fights' in Democratic platform | TheHill
 

talloola

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Nov 14, 2006
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Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are huge liars, so let's stop pretending we really value honesty


S.E. Cupp: Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are huge liars - NY Daily News

over the years, if we sifted out the lies that were told by politicians to smooth the waters, we would be shovelling lies onto the pile till dooms day, it is part of the political community, we know of big
ones here in Canada from years ago on up, and compared to our little political importance, the u.s.
would have a pile much bigger than ours, that is the reputation of politicians, we have whined
about that all of our lives, and still are, on it goes, not going to stop, they are forever
covering their tracks, they make mistakes and don't want to be found out, simple.

I don't take any of it very serious at all, its the same ole, same ole, I sat around the kitchen table as a little girl listening to my parents, grandparents, saying the same things, I read here, and on tv, so
for me its in one ear and out the other, change the channel, pay attention to something that means
a lot for me, certainly not most the news of the day or politics, I've better things to do.
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
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Nakusp, BC
A driver was stuck in a traffic jam on the highway outside Washington, DC. Nothing was moving. Suddenly, someone knocks on the window.

The driver rolls down the window and asks, "What's going on?"

"Terrorists have kidnapped the entire US Congress and the White House. They're asking for a $100 million dollar ransom. Otherwise, they are going to douse them all in gasolineand set them on fire. We are going from car to car, collecting donations."

"How much are other people giving?" the driver asks.

The man replies, "Most people are giving about a gallon".
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Mar 18, 2013
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This is the best election in my life, because for the first time the left understands that Hillary Clinton ain't going to turn America into Denmark, with an 80% tax rate and generous social welfare benefits (and anybody with a hint of gumption emigrating), and all but the dumbest righties understand that Trump ain't gonna turn it into Mayberry.
 

pgs

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Nov 29, 2008
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over the years, if we sifted out the lies that were told by politicians to smooth the waters, we would be shovelling lies onto the pile till dooms day, it is part of the political community, we know of big
ones here in Canada from years ago on up, and compared to our little political importance, the u.s.
would have a pile much bigger than ours, that is the reputation of politicians, we have whined
about that all of our lives, and still are, on it goes, not going to stop, they are forever
covering their tracks, they make mistakes and don't want to be found out, simple.

I don't take any of it very serious at all, its the same ole, same ole, I sat around the kitchen table as a little girl listening to my parents, grandparents, saying the same things, I read here, and on tv, so
for me its in one ear and out the other, change the channel, pay attention to something that means
a lot for me, certainly not most the news of the day or politics, I've better things to do.
So Hillary lying under oath before she was a politician but as a lawyer on the Watergate Commission doesn't faze you ?
The fact that she fabricated a false narrative to cover up lack of action on Benghazi doesn't faze you ?
Do you care at all about morals ?
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
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Nakusp, BC
So Hillary lying under oath before she was a politician but as a lawyer on the Watergate Commission doesn't faze you ?
The fact that she fabricated a false narrative to cover up lack of action on Benghazi doesn't faze you ?
Do you care at all about morals ?
You have a choice between two equal evils. You be phooked and you are nit picking with a Canadian. Do you not see the irony here?