2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
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Angstrom

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So you are judging George Bush on one aspect of his presidency? Do you really think that is fair? I wasn't aware of any lies regarding Iraq. I think mistakes were made in the Iraq war, but I think when he went in he honestly thought they were doing the right thing and as I recall he had a lot of support from his people too. I don't recall him lying about anything. Actually I think Bush' biggest shortcoming was his dealings with Katrina.............he dropped the ball on that one, but on Iraq I don't think so. He accomplished what he set out to do..............defeat Hussein (who by the way was murdering 30,000 of his own citizens every year for 30 years) That was a pretty good accomplishment don't you think?

Killing 30 000 crazy Islamist extremist a year is doing all of us a favor it turns out. Damn the relativity is hard to grasp for stupid people :lol:
 
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gerryh

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So you are judging George Bush on one aspect of his presidency? Do you really think that is fair? I wasn't aware of any lies regarding Iraq. I think mistakes were made in the Iraq war, but I think when he went in he honestly thought they were doing the right thing and as I recall he had a lot of support from his people too. I don't recall him lying about anything. Actually I think Bush' biggest shortcoming was his dealings with Katrina.............he dropped the ball on that one, but on Iraq I don't think so. He accomplished what he set out to do..............defeat Hussein (who by the way was murdering 30,000 of his own citizens every year for 30 years) That was a pretty good accomplishment don't you think?


and how many have died in the area since Hussien was ousted?
 

Angstrom

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and how many have died in the area since Hussien was ousted?

That's a good point. Even more Islamist extremists have died in the result. This keeps getting better for everyone !

You could even say we did the Islamist a favor as they only live in this life to make it into the next life, which is the real life. This life is just s fake life to test you if your worthy of the real life.

One can ague that Islam should love us for bombing the **** out of them.

We're just helping them get to their real life faster ;)
 

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So you are judging George Bush on one aspect of his presidency? Do you really think that is fair? I wasn't aware of any lies regarding Iraq. I think mistakes were made in the Iraq war, but I think when he went in he honestly thought they were doing the right thing and as I recall he had a lot of support from his people too. I don't recall him lying about anything. Actually I think Bush' biggest shortcoming was his dealings with Katrina.............he dropped the ball on that one, but on Iraq I don't think so. He accomplished what he set out to do..............defeat Hussein (who by the way was murdering 30,000 of his own citizens every year for 30 years) That was a pretty good accomplishment don't you think?
It's easy to pass judgment from the outside looking in. Seem's to be pretty popular past time north of the border.
 

Dixie Cup

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Oh come now .You just don't want to see a woman as president .
LOL



That's not true. You just don't want to admit that THIS particular woman won't be good for the country. You're not taking into consideration her rather nefarious past. If she was a man, I'd say the same bloody thing! I DO NOT trust her at all nor should anyone else.


JMHO

yes, George bush was a failure as president because of his lies and mistakes concerning Iraq, which are
easy to see, as we watched the failing happen before our eyes, and documented facts about the liesthat led to attacking Iraq.

if she becomes president and fails in her endeavors to accomplish important ventures that affect millions, as bush did, I will be the first to speak up and criticize, but she hasn't had a chance to do that yet,
so I don't have any facts yet, and I'm not going to trash her because of all the gossip and attacks
about her lieing about this and lieing about that, no facts, just hatred that brings out the worst in
people, and makes them look very sad and weak, and that includes you, who just said recently, as soon
as her lips move she lies, that is just hatred, and it is far too late to take back the gender situation,
too much has been printed in this forum to do that.

saying that Margaret thatcher was the best pm England ever had is your opinion, could be, but she was
the p.m., so she was given the chance to either prove herself or not, it would have been interesting
to read on here comments about her before she became p.m., that really is the point here.

anyway, I really like Justin trudeau, and didn't know I would till he became prime minister, and now he
is growing on me, he's a neat guy, and so far doing a good job, so I'm definitely not going to criticize
him about the job he is doing, unless he blunders and makes the huge mistakes like bush did, then there
will be facts and figures to talk a bout, but definitely not yet, and hopefully he continues to do a
good job.
unfortunately some will trash anyone who doesn't represent the party 'they' like.

I'm not overreacting, you are backpeddling. lol


First off, it was pretty obvious what George Bush was all about - an elitist, wealth, moron but he didn't (as far as I remember) pretend he was anything but what he was. Unfortunately, Hillary is worse in that she "pretends" she's not like a Bush when in fact, she's worse. George was his own bumbling self - she portrays herself as "one of the people" when, in fact, she's not.

The fact that you like JT proves to me, anyway, that you don't care about substance at all because both Hillary and JT don't have anything of substance to offer. They're all about "themselves".


JMHO

A good example. There was an emergency debate in parliament about the Attwaspat - however its spelt (can't say it either - sorry) and guess where JT was? He was at a posh restaurant having dinner and coincidentally, one of his former Liberal pals was having a book signing at the same restaurant - huh - who knew?


That's REALLY taking care of business isn't it. But about this whole attawa..... (however it's spelt) it is disgusting and unconscionable that this is even happening. I blame ALL the governments we've had over the last 20 or 30 years - both Liberal and Conservatives. Sheila Fraser had over what, 20 reports (??) about the conditions in various reservations and we did NOTHING! That is criminal at best.


Where did the money go? I want to know and there should be a criminal investigation, but until we get these kids some help first, that should be the least of our worries right now. But, after, we need to hold those responsible to account - whether it be politicians, tribal elders/counsellors whatever. I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT!! There should be hell to pay.


JMHO
 

JLM

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"The fact that you like JT proves to me, anyway, that you don't care about substance at all because both Hillary and JT don't have anything of substance to offer. They're all about "themselves"."


I think you've hit the nail on the head there, Dixie. Justin is floundering- he may impress a lot of people because he is willing to jump at any spur of the moment opportunity to appear to be democratic, but there's very little substance. Case in point......he's split his cabinet according to gender (because it's 2016):) :) :) A person with substance would give each of those positions to the person most qualified to perform the job in a professional and complete manner regardless of gender.
 

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Blackleaf

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So, when is Cameron being invited over to tell the Americans which way to vote?
 

tay

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So, when is Cameron being invited over to tell the Americans which way to vote?

Never. As Britain learned from the shameful poodle Blair, you will do as America wants.

But actually if you listened to what Obama said he suggesting that if you vote to leave, you won't be able to apply to get into the TPP shame for 10 years.

That should be enough of a bonus to get people to vote to leave the EU.....
 

Blackleaf

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Never. As Britain learned from the shameful poodle Blair, you will do as America wants.

The government may sometimes do what America wants, but it is not the British government who is going to decide whether or not Britain should stay in the EU. The British public will, and there was already a fair amount of anti-Americanism amongst the British public even before Barry stuck his oar in.

But actually if you listened to what Obama said he suggesting that if you vote to leave, you won't be able to apply to get into the TPP shame for 10 years.

That should be enough of a bonus to get people to vote to leave the EU.....
To counteract what Obama has just said - that Britain would be at the "back of the queue" ("queue" being, suspiciously, a very British word) over trade deals with the US in the event of Brexit - Boris and the Leave camp really need to get across to the British public that staying in the EU means getting involved in TTIP and that that would likely be bad for Britain and the EU and more beneficial to America. That's what the Leave camp really need to do now to get back onto the front foot (that's if, of course, Barry's intervention has actually provided a boost to the Remain camp, as the media are trying to have us believe, and not the Leave camp. Upcoming polls will tell us).
 

JLM

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What a pair of chicken sh*t bastards running against Trump! I predict it will blow up in their faces! Go Trump go! :)
 

spaminator

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Self-professed time-traveller pretty sure he'll win U.S. presidency
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First posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 03:00 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 03:35 PM EDT
If Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton don't resonate with American voters, they always have Andrew Basiago -- a presidential candidate who is pretty sure he's going to become "either president or vice-president" between 2016 and 2028, according to information he's gathered time travelling.
Cheekily calling his campaign "a time for truth," Basiago, 54, brags on his site that he "served bravely in the two secret U.S. defence projects in which time travel on Earth and voyages to Mars were first undertaken."
Basiago -- who has made similar claims in the past -- also said he's helped several former presidents make important decisions by gathering knowledge through time travelling. Now it's his turn.
It's no surprise then that further exposing these secret technologies is a big part of the Seattle lawyer's promises if elected.
"Project Pegasus developed eight modalities of time travel by 1970, only to keep this great technical feat of our nation -- the advent of time travel -- secret from the American people," reads one of the independent candidate's promises. "Only by disclosing its time travel technologies can America unleash the potential that these technologies have to advantage humanity in the 21st century."
He's also promised to expose a secret Mars colony, alien contact, and wants to put the sasquatch on the endangered species list.
Basiago officially registered to run earlier this year. He's raising money on his website and through social media.
Andrew Basiago. (Andy2016.com photo)

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You might have to open the article and post that as the link.

Don get the Republican and TPTB will try and run independents. The Hillary investigation has been put off until after the election. Why delay the agony, the military should hold a coup tomorrow and take him on as an advisor until the reins of power can be 'officially handed over' in January