2015; Does Stephen Harper and the Conservatives deserve another chance?

Kreskin

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You forgot other Provincial and Municipal issues like why Harper didn't fix the pothole in front of the neighbor's house.
Ya it rained yesterday on Vancouver Island. Why wasn't Harper out there clearing the storm drains and sprinkling carbon tax pedals? The guy is nothing but problems.
 

JLM

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But specifically what? The vets aren't aren't getting enough money? That's new? The Senate? It's been a joke forever. Drugs and crime? JT is going to do better? Homelessness? It isn't going away no matter who the PM is. It's delusional to think JT will make any ground on those 'problems'.

JT won't bash his opponents? I mean come on. Those issues are just silly rhetorical jabs. Give me something with some meat on it.

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no use whatsoever for Jr. I think the Vets may have an issue, not that it's anything new, survivors of WWII returned with severe problems, not recognized then as P.T.S.D. I think Harper might take a day out of his busy schedule to sit down with them and talk about it, I think half the problem is they don't think they are being heard.
 

petros

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When it comes to PTSD treatment and aftercare who delivers? Provincial healthcare or is DVA running seperately?
 

Kreskin

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Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no use whatsoever for Jr. I think the Vets may have an issue, not that it's anything new, survivors of WWII returned with severe problems, not recognized then as P.T.S.D. I think Harper might take a day out of his busy schedule to sit down with them and talk about it, I think half the problem is they don't think they are being heard.
A little late for PTSD treatments for 90 year olds, imo.
 

Kreskin

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Back in the day they said you were ,"shell shocked " and "lacked the moral fiber of a soldier" .

Treatment was alcohol.
Good point. Pass them some medical marijuana and get on with it.
 

petros

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Quite a few have turned to opiates. That is hard road to travel all on it's own and doesn't kill the memories just the physical pain that memories can induce.
 

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Are you nuts?? of course you are......hoping for a pipeline to Texas to pass in the US, so Texas can refine our oil and sell it back to us for instance. Oh, I guess you haven't yet noticed the drop in oil prices along with how Canada's worth has dropped in the last few weeks.....never mind you will when you come to buy groceries in about a months time.

As far as what was sold off to the highest bidder or perhaps the only bidder, is our independence. When did we vote about going to war?? Did I miss that??

Of course, there is a great deal that is kept from us these days since the Harper Government, keeps such a tight control on what his party members are allowed to filter down through the media to the mere voters, so I don't wonder about how little you seem to have noticed.



Gee, I guess the fact that my CONSERVATIVE MP has multiple round table meetings in his constituency each and every year to talk about what the government is doing and requesting feed back from those in attendance. I guess it means they certainly want to keep us "peons" in the dark alright! He has these meetings maybe 2 or 3 times a year with 2 or 3 scheduled each time; open to the public (timed during the day, evening or weekend - you pick the one you want to attend). Guess he just does that for fun....


Really???? HUH!
 

petros

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As Speaker of the House, my MP represents everyone. He does his job and is squeaky clean. He is a very smart fella and will be PM someday, I guarantee it.
 

JLM

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A little late for PTSD treatments for 90 year olds, imo.

I'd bet there's more Veterans alive today from Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq than all the ones from W.W.II. 90 year olds would just be a drop in the bucket!
 

bluebyrd35

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"Some" might be more realistic than "most"- I think he has a few problems ie the veterans, First Nations, homelessness, the Senate, crime largely due to drugs, just to name a few. But yes, there has to be much better alternatives than Jr. and Mulcair before I'll jump ship!



Lots of truth in what you say, Cliffy, but the alternatives are worse...............MUCH WORSE!
Listen I will take naive before a thug. At least someone naive has a bit higher standard than needing to control the destiny of Canada. I would prefer someone who will allow Canadians to decide their own standards. But hey that is me. I would support anyone who will listen to what is right and fair, rather than what is best for the government in power. Particularly one that is more interested in his popularity in the world community contrary to that of those who elected him. Unfortunately, for us those of the world community who support and praise this government in power, do not give a damn about Canada as a whole. It suits them!!
 

petros

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There is 10 years remaining to meet the energy export goals of 3,000,000bbl per day set by Chretien/Martin.

How will Justin get the necessary pipelines built on time?
 

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Bill C-51:



Uncomfortable yet? We have finally reached the point where if you don't want Enbridge to run a pipeline through the watershed your children drink out of without any sort of functional environmental assessment or oversight, you are an enemy of the state. Idle No More, ForestEthics, Sierra Club, EcoSociety, LeadNow, Dogwood Initiative, Council of Canadians and the People’s Summit have already been deemed a threat to Canada and monitored by the RCMP, according to documents obtained under FOI requests by Professors Kevin Walby and Jeffrey Monaghan.

Canada: Bill C-51 Could be Used to Stifle Social and Environmental Movements, Accuse Citizen Media Groups of “Supporting Terrorism” | Global Research

In fact, the RCMP considers Canada to be at greater risk from environmental activists than religious extremists.

Canada more at risk from environmentalists than religiously inspired terrorists: RCMP | Vancouver Observer

In fact, merely by publicly advocating environmentally sound policy (that might challenge corporate profits), you may already be eligible for up to five years in prison. - Michael Nabert
Harpo needs to go.
Quite the pile of fear mongering horse s hit to be all in one post. In fact all those groups mentioned pose a direct threat to the jobs of all my union brothers and sisters as well as thousands of non union workers. Those would be the people that pay the taxes that cover the costs of pensions and welfare for those that don't feel like being contributing members of society.

There is 10 years remaining to meet the energy export goals of 3,000,000bbl per day set by Chretien/Martin.

How will Justin get the necessary pipelines built on time?

Rail cars. Lots and lots of rail cars running through Toronto 24/7.
 

bluebyrd35

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There is 10 years remaining to meet the energy export goals of 3,000,000bbl per day set by Chretien/Martin.

How will Justin get the necessary pipelines built on time?
I would hope that there will be refineries set up onsite and refined oil trucked out to ports. Surely, cutting down on what Canadians do not feel comfortable with i.e., weapons, the money be spent on other than shipping out our young men and women to fight. Oh my such heresy, right?? Imagine supporting other countries in giving up their young. We are a huge country that has already spent the lives of many of our young in two world wars and in other minor wars since. It is time to rebuild our population and not spend the best of our resources on the interests of others who can afford the price. We cannot!!

Canada went into Afghanistan as a peace keeping agency. Our troops were posted front line in front of the active forces. For goodness sake when will Canada, back away from situations that put our youngest and best out front of other forces who have an agenda??
 

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I suppose no one is surprised they are letting them stay............






The transitional measure will offer a reprieve to some employees in Alberta working in the Temporary Foreign Worker (TFW) program as they wait for their permanent residence applications to be processed, Employment Minister Jason Kenney said in a letter to Conservative MPs obtained by CBC News.


The federal government introduced new rules last June barring employers from hiring low-wage temporary foreign workers in regions where the unemployment rate is above six per cent, and requiring employers to cap the number of foreign workers they hire at 10 per cent by 2016.


April 1 is the deadline for workers under the program who have been in the province since 2011 or earlier to leave the country in accordance with the new Labour Market Impact Assessment criteria.


"Employment and Social Development Canada will now provide a one-time exemption to these workers from being counted under the cap on low-wage workers imposed on employers provided they meet strict criteria," the letter says.


Additionally, Citizenship and Immigration Canada is providing a one-year bridging work permit to temporary foreign workers who are subject to the four-year cumulative duration limit.


"This should provide some relief to employers who have TFWs that have already applied for immigration and are in the queue waiting for for their applications to be assessed," the letter says.


This is yet another example of the Harper government telling Canadians one thing and then turning around and doing something else to employers," Alberta Federation of Labour president Gil McGowan said.


McGowan said this new plan from the Harper government is particularly "cynical, sneaky and mean-spirited" because they have tried to dress it up as an act of kindness to the thousands of TFWs who face the prospect of deportation as soon as April 1.








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Some temporary foreign workers in Alberta to get reprieve - Calgary - CBC News
 

petros

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I would hope that there will be refineries set up onsite and refined oil trucked out to ports. Surely, cutting down on what Canadians do not feel comfortable with i.e., weapons, the money be spent on other than shipping out our young men and women to fight. Oh my such heresy, right?? Imagine supporting other countries in giving up their young. We are a huge country that has already spent the lives of many of our young in two world wars and in other minor wars since. It is time to rebuild our population and not spend the best of our resources on the interests of others who can afford the price. We cannot!!

Canada went into Afghanistan as a peace keeping agency. Our troops were posted front line in front of the active forces. For goodness sake when will Canada, back away from situations that put our youngest and best out front of other forces who have an agenda??

There are oodles of Canadian refineries running far below capacity waiting for pipelines. 1000km by truck to port is a bad idea hence the reason behind pipelines aka "energy corridors" set forth by the Libs. One route to Texas, the other to Prince Rupert all funded by overinflated $100+bbl of oil.

Afghanistan was never a "peace keeping mission". Combat from day one.

Everything you hate about Harper was initiated by the Liberals.

Asia Pacific Gateway and Corridors is a massive project with another 15 years to finish. Man hours into the hundreds of millions if not billions.

Look it all up. It's fact.
 

bluebyrd35

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There are oodles of Canadian refineries running far below capacity waiting for pipelines. 1000km by truck to port is a bad idea hence the reason behind pipelines aka "energy corridors" set forth by the Libs. One route to Texas, the other to Prince Rupert all funded by overinflated $100+bbl of oil.

Afghanistan was never a "peace keeping mission". Combat from day one.

Everything you hate about Harper was initiated by the Liberals.

Asia Pacific Gateway and Corridors is a massive project with another 15 years to finish. Man hours into the hundreds of millions if not billions.

Look it all up. It's fact.
Then I guess, it is time to do more in the way of manufacturing instead of selling the raw materials to other countries right? Gee, I guess instead of going to war, we could have put all those young people to work with those hundred of million or billions on building those corridors.

Afghanistan was supposed to have been merely peace keeping just as the present government promised no feet on the ground in these wars.

In any case, I will not vote for Harper and I am not alone. Governments need to be changed or they become corrupt, and in my opinion, this government has passed it's best before date.
 
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JLM

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In any case, I will not vote for Harper and I am not alone. Governments need to be changed or they become corrupt, and in my opinion, this government has passed it's best before date.

And just exactly who would you vote for to improve the situation? :):) :) :)