That's not true at all.
There are massive solar and wind farms for a reason.
That's not what they are finding out here in Ontario right now :lol:
That's not true at all.
There are massive solar and wind farms for a reason.
That's not what they are finding out here in Ontario right now :lol:
I think you mean the 400% increase over the last decade. And they are NOT working just fine here. We have the benefit of hydro-electric AND what was until recently, the highest capacity NPP in operation. While it's now the 2nd largest, it still generates more than the largest. Quebec also has the benefit of LOTS of hydroelectric generation. Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, not so much.They are working fine here, we just caved to private contracts so we have excess electricity that is sold to other jurisdictions for less than anticipated.
This has resulted in the catastrophic increase of $3/month on your electricity bill.
I think you mean the 400% increase over the last decade. And they are NOT working just fine here. We have the benefit of hydro-electric AND what was until recently, the highest capacity NPP in operation. While it's now the 2nd largest, it still generates more than the largest. Quebec also has the benefit of LOTS of hydroelectric generation. Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, not so much.
And I sure don't see any govt approving anymore huge hydro-electric projects in Canada. So, we're down to nuclear for base load generation if Trudumb plans on going fossil fuel-free.
It's been pointed out, not just in here a few times but by others who know more about this stuff than anyone in here, you can't run a modern country based on the vagaries of wind and sun.
Why do you think Germany has scrapped future funding for "green" projects and is going full-bore on cheap, coal-fired generation? And not just anthracite, lignite as well. At that point, if you're burning lignite, you might as well be burning peat.
Britain, Denmark, Holland, Germany and Spain have all put a halt to subsidizing green energy and any future green projects. These countries were the champions of green energy. But their govts have gotten out of the green energy game because the overall cost wasn't worth it. All of the above countries experienced negative employment as a result of the govt getting involved with green energy. Spain was zapped the hardest losing two jobs in other sectors for every one job that was created in the green energy sector.
In Ontario, the LPO's green energy policy was a disaster from the get-go and was simply used as a tool to make Hydro One more profitable before offering public shares for it on the open market. The windmills were and are unnecessary and thusly an unnecessary waste of money, much of which went into the profit margins of multinationals. Funny when Conservatives do that they get blamed for being in bed with big business though.
The last coal plant's shuttering could have waited until the most recent refurb at Bruce NPP was finished. However, we'd still need something fossil fueled to keep flexibility in the supply. And that's what you and the pinhead in Ottawa seem to fail to understand. Windmills or not, with the closing of the last coal-fired plant, we'd still need gas-fired plants at the least. The windmills were just a way for the LPO to stamp its ideology on the landscape. They really do serve no good purpose in Ontario. You think they're doing just fine, so I'll hazard a guess you've never spent much time in South-Western Ontario in the summer. Not a lot of wind for much of the summer. Heck, a lot of the days there's barely a breeze at all, even off the lakes.
But worst of all, the LPO basically let the industry write the regulations and they just rubber stamped 'em. Regulations that seem to have no similarity to the international standards that were universally agreed upon. For example, before we installed our white elephants, international standards dictated that no wind farm or turbine could be placed within 2km of a residential area whether rural or urban. In Ontario it's only 550 meters.
There's no question there are some areas where wind farms would work well. Much of the prairies where it's always windy comes to mind. But then again, they do have some snot-freezing, testicle-shattering cold out there too.
Huge gubmint subsidies is the reason.That's not true at all.
There are massive solar and wind farms for a reason.
As long as we stop worrying so much about the economy, we'll all be fine.
I hope it isn't but if it is it certainly has nothing to do with the gubmint.It truly is the best time to be a Canadian.
Huge gubmint subsidies is the reason.
The economy is the most important issue for governments to worry about. Everything depends on it. ANd I mean everything, all your freebees that you think you are entitled to depends on the rest of us having good paying jobs and more important are somewhat willing to let the government take our money to give to losers. Four years of trudOWE is probably a good thing as it will be several generations before anyone even thinks of voting for irresponsible socialist governments.
hey, old man you just lower that stick of yours and get back to stirring the potGuys ...Guys....Quick butting in on Flossy and Angstrom discussions........
Can't you see they seem to be going steady...?
The majority of electricity out here in lotus land is already renewable , called hydro .That's great that you could put this collection of words together without any supporting evidence.
In the mean time, there is significant investment in renewables which is actually causing a shift in electricity generation and the carbon pricing model in BC is reducing emissions.
What do you produce ?To your first comment, not really.
Look, you have to be level headed about this stuff.
The standard of living is still quite good and we are well prepared for the next phase which is the cap and trade phase in.
I live off an average income with a wife and kids and we are getting on just fine.
To your second comment, I'm not picky about nuclear as long as it can be developed safely.
Actually cite c is going ahead in B.C. and it is a massive hydro electric project .I think you mean the 400% increase over the last decade. And they are NOT working just fine here. We have the benefit of hydro-electric AND what was until recently, the highest capacity NPP in operation. While it's now the 2nd largest, it still generates more than the largest. Quebec also has the benefit of LOTS of hydroelectric generation. Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, not so much.
And I sure don't see any govt approving anymore huge hydro-electric projects in Canada. So, we're down to nuclear for base load generation if Trudumb plans on going fossil fuel-free.
It's been pointed out, not just in here a few times but by others who know more about this stuff than anyone in here, you can't run a modern country based on the vagaries of wind and sun.
Why do you think Germany has scrapped future funding for "green" projects and is going full-bore on cheap, coal-fired generation? And not just anthracite, lignite as well. At that point, if you're burning lignite, you might as well be burning peat.
Britain, Denmark, Holland, Germany and Spain have all put a halt to subsidizing green energy and any future green projects. These countries were the champions of green energy. But their govts have gotten out of the green energy game because the overall cost wasn't worth it. All of the above countries experienced negative employment as a result of the govt getting involved with green energy. Spain was zapped the hardest losing two jobs in other sectors for every one job that was created in the green energy sector.
In Ontario, the LPO's green energy policy was a disaster from the get-go and was simply used as a tool to make Hydro One more profitable before offering public shares for it on the open market. The windmills were and are unnecessary and thusly an unnecessary waste of money, much of which went into the profit margins of multinationals. Funny when Conservatives do that they get blamed for being in bed with big business though.
The last coal plant's shuttering could have waited until the most recent refurb at Bruce NPP was finished. However, we'd still need something fossil fueled to keep flexibility in the supply. And that's what you and the pinhead in Ottawa seem to fail to understand. Windmills or not, with the closing of the last coal-fired plant, we'd still need gas-fired plants at the least. The windmills were just a way for the LPO to stamp its ideology on the landscape. They really do serve no good purpose in Ontario. You think they're doing just fine, so I'll hazard a guess you've never spent much time in South-Western Ontario in the summer. Not a lot of wind for much of the summer. Heck, a lot of the days there's barely a breeze at all, even off the lakes.
But worst of all, the LPO basically let the industry write the regulations and they just rubber stamped 'em. Regulations that seem to have no similarity to the international standards that were universally agreed upon. For example, before we installed our white elephants, international standards dictated that no wind farm or turbine could be placed within 2km of a residential area whether rural or urban. In Ontario it's only 550 meters.
There's no question there are some areas where wind farms would work well. Much of the prairies where it's always windy comes to mind. But then again, they do have some snot-freezing, testicle-shattering cold out there too.
hey, old man you just lower that stick of yours and get back to stirring the pot
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No, there are two reasons at leats why JT was elected.There is only 1 reason JT was elected and that was his promise to legalize weed, period. Liberal politicians would have promised the world to get their jobs back in Ottawa ; they know they are in trouble now, because though we are a progressive country, weed is just not on the forefront of Canadian's priorities. No one sitting around conference tables believe that weed will produce a viable future workforce. They can argue that it will bring lots of revenue to Ottawa, but most Canadian are not buying this BS.