12 dead in attack on Paris newspaper; France goes on alert

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Probably the only good thing you've ever posted. Why wouldn't people be able to stomach reality? She's 100% correct.
You can debate against this? What's your rebuttal?
I wonder if many of these attacks by extremists are more influenced by the media attention they garner than anything else.

How to Answer the Paris Terror Attack
By Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Wall Street Journal
Posted 2015-01-08 05:00 GMT
After the horrific massacre Wednesday at the French weekly satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, perhaps the West will finally put away its legion of useless tropes trying to deny the relationship between violence and radical Islam.This was not an attack by a mentally deranged, lone-wolf gunman. This was not an "un-Islamic" attack by a bunch of thugs--the perpetrators could be heard shouting that they were avenging the Prophet Muhammad. Nor was it spontaneous. It was planned to inflict maximum damage, during a staff meeting, with automatic weapons and a getaway plan. It was designed to sow terror, and in that it has worked.
The West is duly terrified. But it should not be surprised.
If there is a lesson to be drawn from such a grisly episode, it is that what we believe about Islam truly doesn't matter. This type of violence, jihad, is what they, the Islamists, believe.
There are numerous calls to violent jihad in the Quran. But the Quran is hardly alone. In too much of Islam, jihad is a thoroughly modern concept. The 20th-century jihad "bible," and an animating work for many Islamist groups today, is "The Quranic Concept of War," a book written in the mid-1970s by Pakistani Gen. S.K. Malik. He argues that because God, Allah, himself authored every word of the Quran, the rules of war contained in the Quran are of a higher caliber than the rules developed by mere mortals.
In Malik's analysis of Quranic strategy, the human soul--and not any physical battlefield--is the center of conflict. The key to victory, taught by Allah through the military campaigns of the Prophet Muhammad, is to strike at the soul of your enemy. And the best way to strike at your enemy's soul is through terror. Terror, Malik writes, is "the point where the means and the end meet." Terror, he adds, "is not a means of imposing decision upon the enemy; it is the decision we wish to impose."
Those responsible for the slaughter in Paris, just like the man who killed the Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh in 2004, are seeking to impose terror. And every time we give in to their vision of justified religious violence, we are giving them exactly what they want.
In Islam, it is a grave sin to visually depict or in any way slander the Prophet Muhammad. Muslims are free to believe this, but why should such a prohibition be forced on nonbelievers? In the U.S., Mormons didn't seek to impose the death penalty on those who wrote and produced "The Book of Mormon," a satirical Broadway sendup of their faith. Islam, with 1,400 years of history and some 1.6 billion adherents, should be able to withstand a few cartoons by a French satirical magazine. But of course deadly responses to cartoons depicting Muhammad are nothing new in the age of jihad.
Moreover, despite what the Quran may teach, not all sins can be considered equal. The West must insist that Muslims, particularly members of the Muslim diaspora, answer this question: What is more offensive to a believer--the murder, torture, enslavement and acts of war and terrorism being committed today in the name of Muhammad, or the production of drawings and films and books designed to mock the extremists and their vision of what Muhammad represents?
To answer the late Gen. Malik, our soul in the West lies in our belief in freedom of conscience and freedom of expression. The freedom to express our concerns, the freedom to worship who we want, or not to worship at all--such freedoms are the soul of our civilization. And that is precisely where the Islamists have attacked us. Again.
How we respond to this attack is of great consequence. If we take the position that we are dealing with a handful of murderous thugs with no connection to what they so vocally claim, then we are not answering them. We have to acknowledge that today's Islamists are driven by a political ideology, an ideology embedded in the foundational texts of Islam. We can no longer pretend that it is possible to divorce actions from the ideals that inspire them.
This would be a departure for the West, which too often has responded to jihadist violence with appeasement. We appease the Muslim heads of government who lobby us to censor our press, our universities, our history books, our school curricula. They appeal and we oblige. We appease leaders of Muslim organizations in our societies. They ask us not to link acts of violence to the religion of Islam because they tell us that theirs is a religion of peace, and we oblige.
What do we get in return? Kalashnikovs in the heart of Paris. The more we oblige, the more we self-censor, the more we appease, the bolder the enemy gets.
There can only be one answer to this hideous act of jihad against the staff of Charlie Hebdo. It is the obligation of the Western media and Western leaders, religious and lay, to protect the most basic rights of freedom of expression, whether in satire on any other form. The West must not appease, it must not be silenced. We must send a united message to the terrorists: Your violence cannot destroy our soul.
Ms. Hirsi Ali, a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School, is the author of "Infidel" (2007). Her latest book, "Heretic: The Case for a Muslim Reformation," will be published in April by HarperCollins.

Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another"
Quran 48:29

2015.01.08 (Baghdad, Iraq) - A Sunni suicide bomber wades into a Shiite mosque and slaughters at least eight worshippers. 2015.01.07 (Zhari, Afghanistan) - Taliban bombers take out two children gathering firewood.
2015.01.07
(Baghlan, Afghanistan) - Six road workers are machine-gunned point-blank by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2015.01.07 (Sanaa, Yemen) - A al-Qaeda suicide bus bomber scatters body parts and snuffs out thirty-seven lives at a college. 2015.01.06 (Nazimabad, Pakistan) - Two Shiite brothers are murdered in their shop by Sipah-e-Sahaba. 2015.01.06 (al-Jubba, Iraq) - A suicide attack on a mosque and the ensuing clash leave two dozen dead.
 
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DaSleeper

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Probably the only good thing you've ever posted. Why wouldn't people be able to stomach reality? She's 100% correct.
You can debate against this? What's your rebuttal?
I wonder if many of these attacks by extremists are more influenced by the media attention they garner than anything else.
Probably lives in the same la la land you do an as frigging lazy bum as you..
 

DaSleeper

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The good news is that the good, upstanding people of France are now attacking mosques and kebap shops.

I totally support that.
Hypocrite:: Aren't you doing what you accuse "islamophobes" of doing blaming all of france for the actions of a few thugs.... never mind the difference of triggers for the reaction cartoons vs a massacre
 

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He looks like one of those Sikh Manchester United fans who are seen at Old Trafford at every United home match. The TV cameras during live games always pick them up.

Always watching from their second row seats behind the players’ bench, Simon, Craig, Jimmy, Kuk Singh, and Satta have attended matches at Old Trafford and abroad for over two decades. They are such fixtures, that the men were the stars of an advertising campaign for pre-season games:








Unlike violent, barbaric Islam, Sikhism IS a peaceful religion.

Sure it is. COme visit surrey some day. Just that for the most part they murder other Sikhs and opposing drug lords.
 

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Pompous *** that he is I figure one of the many terrorist organizations alive and well in Surrey will remove him from the O2 supply in short order.

He is far too insignificant. However, drop him in the DTES and then you may have luck.
or maybe East Van. These girls could take him out

 

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Probably the only good thing you've ever posted. Why wouldn't people be able to stomach reality? She's 100% correct.

You can debate against this? What's your rebuttal?

I wonder if many of these attacks by extremists are more influenced by the media attention they garner than anything else.

The problem with what that lady is saying that that Muslims don't condone this MUSLIM TERRORIST ACT, it's just the opposite Muslims celebrated the attacks.

'The Muslims Have Turned Paris Into a Battlefield:' Islamists Celebrate Terror Attack Against Charlie Hebdo | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com

Here is a list of terror attacks since the 1990, and if you wonder why people are getting tired and now starting to attack back..

List of Islamic terrorist attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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I have been watching statements like probably most of the people in the
streets in France are Muslim. The line from the apologists of these thugs.
There can be no apology accepted no mercy for the enemies of our collective
western States or countries.
It is said the French Government knows there are five thousand Jihadists in
France. what are they doing on the streets? How many of these people are on
the street in Canada or the USA or Germany? The time has come to understand
we are at war and its time to round them up all known and suspected Jihadists.
All Jihadist should be regarded as a terrorists and arrested.
This is going to be a long and bloody war before its over so we may as well prepare
ourselves
 

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The good news is that the good, upstanding people of France are now attacking mosques and kebap shops.

I totally support that.

GOOD!! Time to take a stand.. send a message back.

These mosques are where they are teaching this hatred and supporting the Islamist Terrorists.

Islam is a Cult, it sucks you in and tries to control you.
 
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I have been watching statements like probably most of the people in the
streets in France are Muslim. The line from the apologists of these thugs.
There can be no apology accepted no mercy for the enemies of our collective
western States or countries.
It is said the French Government knows there are five thousand Jihadists in
France. what are they doing on the streets? How many of these people are on
the street in Canada or the USA or Germany? The time has come to understand
we are at war and its time to round them up all known and suspected Jihadists.
All Jihadist should be regarded as a terrorists and arrested.
This is going to be a long and bloody war before its over so we may as well prepare
ourselves


And you bash the GOP!

Here is a typical leftard apologist reaction to the massacre in Paris'..........if you can stomach to watch the whole thing .....probably doesn't have or want a job either....like boreobsessed..



I could only get to 1:40 in it because she has to be one of the most vacuous speaker I've seen on Youtube.


The funny part is she's worried about what people "will now think about muslims around the world" now.

Ugh... I had to listen more....


She doesn't "expect a Jew that's walking around here to apologize for what is happening in Israel."




I'm pretty sure they won't!