10 Commandments in schools

Serryah

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Yes, teachers should teach politics in a class about politics or perhaps in social studies class. It's the practicing part part I have a problem with. And the the Woke movement in all its glory is just another fucked up religion trying to dictate how everyone should think and what they should be allowed to say.

Y'know what? I agree, sometimes there are people who take the whole "recognition of past wrongs" to an extreme and those people need to seriously STFU.

But you and others like you calling ANY recognition of the fact there was wrong done in history, and wanting kids to be educated about it, "Woke" as if it's a bad thing are ALSO part of the problem. Especially when the disparity STILL exists today. And that people say "no there isn't" just PROVES that there's a continued issue going on.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Kind'a weird the US national anthem is about a war they didn't win though.
How did we "not win" it? The mission was independence. We're independent.

And BTW, it's not about the war. It's about the siege of Fort McHenry, which in itself was only a small part of the Battle of Baltimore.

Which was in a completely separate war. But don't let that stop you.

 

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How did we "not win" it? The mission was independence. We're independent.

And BTW, it's not about the war. It's about the siege of Fort McHenry, which in itself was only a small part of the Battle of Baltimore.

Which was in a completely separate war. But don't let that stop you.

In 1814 we took a little trip ,
 

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How did we "not win" it? The mission was independence. We're independent.
No, it was about eliminating British influence from North America altogether. You failed there.
And BTW, it's not about the war. It's about the siege of Fort McHenry, which in itself was only a small part of the Battle of Baltimore.

Which was in a completely separate war. But don't let that stop you.
The Battle of Baltimore (September 12–15, 1814) took place between British and American forces in the War of 1812. So, same war dude.
 

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Especially when the disparity STILL exists today. And that people say "no there isn't" just PROVES that there's a continued issue going on.
Disparity exists everywhere, even in mono-culture societies. The doorknobs who suggest disparity= racism show a complete lack of intelligence and understanding of the human condition.
 

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Disparity exists everywhere, even in mono-culture societies. The doorknobs who suggest disparity= racism show a complete lack of intelligence and understanding of the human condition.

Yes, disparity exists everywhere.

What the difference is people like you claim disparity is ALL there is, when in reality it IS evidence of, if not actual implementation of, racism.

Perhaps the "lack of intelligence and understanding of the human condition" isn't on those who you claim are "woke", but those who deny that being "Woke" actually may be a good thing.
 

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Many moons & 1/2 a century ago, every school day started with the trifecta of The Lords Prayer, God Save the Queen, & Oh Canada. Didn’t realize it was weird as it just was and happened in every classroom. This wasn’t a Catholic school either.

Our Grandchildren think it was weird when this is mentioned (just to see their reactions).
Half a century ago the majority of Canadians had a christian heritage, European ancestry, and Briddish ruling class with a queen most people liked. Today We have a clown prince for a king, a sizable portion of the population that thinks christians are cannon fodder and a ruling class that answers to China.
 
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Taxslave2

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From singing the national anthem 200 times a year for a few years, to having them change the words three times between 1975 and 1980 or so…. I still couldn’t tell you what the words are to this day now beyond the chorus…& if I saying it, I might come up with a version that hasn’t existed for 45 to 50 years. Go team (Canada)!
In the early 70s we changed it to Oh Cannabis. I still remember most of the words to that. Sing Oh Canada about twice a month and can't member how it all goes currently.
 

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No, I want teachers to teach, the good, the bad, the ugly.

You want teachers to teach lies and half-truths. Not the same thing.
So you want the good results of residential schools taught alongside truth and reconciliation.
 
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Y'know what? I agree, sometimes there are people who take the whole "recognition of past wrongs" to an extreme and those people need to seriously STFU.

But you and others like you calling ANY recognition of the fact there was wrong done in history, and wanting kids to be educated about it, "Woke" as if it's a bad thing are ALSO part of the problem. Especially when the disparity STILL exists today. And that people say "no there isn't" just PROVES that there's a continued issue going on.
First of all, thank you.

Secondly, I fully acknowledge that we are evolving. You may think, Retired Canadian Soldier, he's probably some misogynistic toxic masculine ultra right-wing homophobic redneck who tortures squirrels, with dental floss. I'm not, I swear I am not, all of my issues arise with the people who throw out these labels because you don't agree with their particular stance. I am a writer, maybe not on the level of Stephen King or Margaret Atwood, but I still know a lot of people in the writing community some are international bestselling authors. There are tons of people who live alternative lifestyles in that writing. I don't care who you screw, how you dress, whether you believe in an afterlife, or don't, and if you dig same sex, cool, if you dig dressing as the sex other than the one you were born with, I'm fine with that. I'm not going to talk behind my hand, "Get a load of this..." I am not built that way. If you are that committed, it's your body and life. Heck, a screenwriter for Star Trek invited me to his same-sex wedding, and had I not been working I would have been there because he is a beautiful human being. I knew him for two years before I found out he was gay, because it had nothing to do with our friendship or or our professional relationship as writers. He plugged one of my books, he is a writer I regularly endorse.

The problem is that people assume because you don't agree with a particular stance, that you're an automatic hater.

Something that frightens me about cancel culture is this, they are using phrases like, "words can be violent and hurtful," therefore we need to suppress such language. So right there, I'm out, even horrible language must be protected from the creeping malaise of do-gooders. There's plenty of examples where we've built a highway to hell with the best of intentions.

Last thing, just because someone says I disagree does not mean they harbor malice.
Anyway, that's it.
Cheers.