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  1. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Yup, the tax load will be immense, hence why I think we ought to deal with issues now before they become big problems later. I will be paying for it, my children will be paying more.
  2. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Survival of the fittest as seen in the wilderness doesn't really apply to humans. We have social systems that cover the "fitness" gap.
  3. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    The end isn't near...not for us. It is going to be very difficult though. We have technology that can deal with problems. But our society depends on ecological servicing, something you as a farmer are probably more aware of than most. How do we prevent large scale mortality in the ocean due to...
  4. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    No, I leave out hypotheses that don't pass muster. Researchers advocating the hypothesis linking cosmic rays and ozone holes predicted the largest ozone hole on record would form in 2008. It wasn't, it was average for the decade. Second, the mechanism that the cosmic ray folks favour is cloud...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Just because Alaska was once a tropical sea is meaningless, because nobody denies that the climate can change. Human civilization has flourished in a narrow window where agriculture is possible. Proliferating the carbon in our fuels and bringing our planet back to Pennsylvanian period...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    And on the flip side, we have a string hypothesis physicist climate denier blogger advocating for genocide or forced detention: Lots of nutbars, only nobody from the "skeptic" camp ever decries these statements, or political statements from Senator Inhoffe akin to Mccarthyism, or Auditor...
  7. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Who do you think you're preaching to Petros? None of that changes the fact that there are huge inefficiencies in our food production system.
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    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Those are all debatable questions. The point is, there are options, and that less food can feed more people. To state otherwise is to ignore facts. Some options, investments in R&D to drive up efficiency in the production processes. Government efforts to reduce waste, this can be incentivized...
  9. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Jamie doesn't, I do. I think it's the best part too :D Yup, organs generally go to waste. Wasn't always like that... Here's another statistic related to your question, about 30% of food purchased in the UK is never eaten, and discarded.
  10. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Yeah, the food that doesn't meet grade for human consumption for reasons as stupid as aesthetics. They are part of the same chain... Probably. How about a harvester that puts 99.5% of seeds in the hopper. Do the math, how many tonnes of food is that for cereal grains worldwide? You said that...
  11. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    At producing food...If you think it's not possible to reduce food production without reducing population, then you must think that there are no gains to be made in efficiency. As an example, how many chickens typically die during transportation from their factory barns to the slaughter house...
  12. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    So we're clear, you think the global food system is 100% efficient?
  13. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    The distance between the Sun and Earth is not fixed, we're closer to the Sun during the Northern hemisphere winter than we are during summer, yet it's not warmer...and the day length gets shorter. The distance to the Sun has nothing to do with the length of daylight a planet receives...that's...
  14. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Ferming my bush. :D
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    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    My french is very poor, but I think he's saying "what the hell are you on about?" though I'm paraphrasing here, and my french sucks :D
  16. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    You could explain the greenhouse effect to DB, right down to the quantized manner in which molecules absorb energy discretely rather than across the entire spectrum, and he'll still blather on about electric universe this and that.
  17. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    So, can you explain the absorbance of light through a tube filled with carbon dioxide without mentioning the excitation of the covalent bonds? It's not a belief, it's an observable fact.
  18. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Don't underestimate the scientists. When they find you, and they will find you, your tea won't taste so good. Bitter. But when you wake-up, you'll be fine, in fact everything will be great. No more worries!
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    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Someone will be by shortly to make your tea for you.
  20. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Even worse, he can't finish his introductory paragraph without introducing a strawman: Basic scientific principles demonstrate that the overall GE phenomenon is not a result of human emissions of “greenhouse gases”. Nobody has ever said that the overall, or entire greenhouse effect is a result...