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  1. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Are you serious? Where exactly do you think the energy is coming from that a greenhouse gas molecule is absorbing and re-emitting? See, that's your problem. In all of your questions, you want to see conclusiveness, and a smoking gun. You ask for experiments, I give you the pioneering experiment...
  2. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    It was actually a response to CM, but you posted between his and my post.
  3. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    You identified the Himalayas, and the Amazon. The Amazon story was a fraud, but not in the sense that you understand it. The IPCC review of the literature is correct. Media outlets actually had to publish retractions because of their over-zealous reporters saying and claiming things that were...
  4. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Well, if you want experiments, you might as well start with the classics. Tyndall, J, 1861. On the absorption and radiation of heat by gases and vapours, and on the physical connexion of radiation, absorption, and conduction.—The bakerian lecture. This paper is still being cited by current...
  5. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Friends of Gin and Tonic, a parody of the sort of junk that comes from Friends of Science, is not the only parody blog. Denial Depot is another hilarious parody of the sort of junk one might come across at Watts Up With That, a favourite of Walter's.
  6. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    It's apparent, he's not familiar with Poe's law.
  7. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Wheat prices were at a three year low in June, before the scorching drought. Oil isn't the only commodity that sees prices fluctuate because of speculation. World Wheat-Surplus Estimate Cut as Drought Hurts Russia Crop - Bloomberg
  8. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    If you think that controlled experiments are a problem, you need to educate yourself on how the scientific method works. If you like, I can explain to you how we do experiments at work. Governments require proof that our vaccines are safe and effective before they grant us approval to sell them...
  9. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    His whole presentation was the relationship between carbon dioxide and climate, and all in the past. There is excellent agreement. On point one, the conclusions are tied together. They are tied together because the relationships have been tested, and observed, and the signal pulled from the...
  10. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    The same answer you gave me when I linked the talk by Richard Alley. It's one hour long, and he discusses how most of the pieces that were missing are now coming together very well. So instead of watching and listening to what the newest science is adding to the knowledge, you spend time here...
  11. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Nobody wants your tobacco support group refreshments. Besides you stink like camel.
  12. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Not know best, have the most experience and know the context. I don't imagine you go to your mechanic for heart problems, and I doubt you go to see a cardiac specialist when your engines knocking. You should give more weight to the experts...the word expert does have a specific meaning after all.
  13. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Some of those could be explained by other factors besides the anthropogenic cause, but only the anthropogenic factor explains all of them concurrently.
  14. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Yup, they sure are: Russian ban sends wheat prices soaring – Natural Resource Report
  15. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    No, I mean if you have something like this: (1,2), (1,4), (1,-2), (1,5), (1, 3), (1,1), (1,4) Only with thousands more of the same, the independent variable is not responsible for the response of the dependent variable. Yet you maintain it's there. Contrary to the laws which govern the...
  16. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    To put it simpler, if there is an association, you can make predictions. If something is stochastic, it is random. You cannot predict something that is random. If you can't grasp that, I don't see much point in discussing anything further with you on this.
  17. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    I did. You posted angular momentum. Your supposed climate link is non-existant. What part of determinism cannot be stochastic do you fail to understand? Can you show me one single significant association in nature where a significant trend is responsible for no trend? Or an association where...
  18. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    It can't be 4/5 if one dentists speaks for everyone.
  19. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Nope, that's only 80% :D
  20. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Of course it is. But there's no evidence climate is one of them. If it were, then there would be a distinct signal from the climate. Nobody has found any such signal, and in fact the longer the period is, the weaker the signal becomes in the wobble. Climate change signal works precisely in the...