Canada least corrupt nation in Americas

[EagleSmack]

Calm down, you're hyperventilating, hide that erection will you, Trex isn't here Smack he's busy working in Europe. Why don't you get your lips off his horn and I'm sure he'll be more than happy to blow it himself if he has the time to spare from world building.:smile:

Wow... you really like this "same sex" talk. Your posts are filled with them. Is there something you aren't telling us DB?

Since he is not here I am sure you can get a post ready for him disputing the facts and reality of life in Cuba since you know all about and he, being from Cuba knows nothing about Cuba at all.

So instead of fantasizing about watching two men together... debate him.

 

[darkbeaver]

Wow... you really like this "same sex" talk. Your posts are filled with them. Is there something you aren't telling us DB?

Since he is not here I am sure you can get a post ready for him disputing the facts and reality of life in Cuba since you know all about and he, being from Cuba knows nothing about Cuba at all.

So instead of fantasizing about watching two men together... debate him.

While your waiting for your knight in shinning armour to come back and rescue your sorry ass why don't you take his place since you're so forking sure of the outcome. Let's get started.
Me first. You are a dickhead.

 

[EagleSmack]

Oooooo...getting testy aren't we?

What's the matter beave...did your feelings get hurt? Your visions of a Cuban Utopia shattered by one who has actually experienced it and lived there as opposed to your readings from globalresearch? Cuba doesn't look as rosy as it once did now did it.

You can call me any thing you want and I will STILL be laughing over this.

You got a Cuban Pressed Sandwich rammed down your throat, a Cuban Banana Cream Pie smashed in your face, finished off with one of Fidel's favorite Cuban cigars shoved in your mouth.

Too funny.

 

[Scott Free]

Being the least corrupt is no great thing..sort of like being a little pregnant!

:lol: very true!

 

[lone wolf]

Wasn't Cuba a conquest by the Spanish?

But at any rate... Cuba has her course today and her own way and has for almost half a century...or Fidel's way.

No ... by United Fruit ... er ... States....

 

[Trex]

Shows how ignorant you and the rest of the world you claim to know are.

Considdering this "Pest" is responsible for many of the marshlands which actually help filter out much of the man-made pollution in our country, among many other things... that shows what the hell you and all your buddies know.

Just because you considder something to be something else, doesn't make you right.

Without the Beaver, both in Canada and the US, half of the land area would be dried out. They bring life to an area that there wasn't much to begin with.... their habitats they create substain hundred of other animal species.

Get a clue.



Sorry, but you don't own much when you spout ignorant garbage like the above about something you know nothing about.
...................

Well "angry Beavered one"
You sure are defense about rodents.

It was a mediocre attempt at levity.
If you read it carefully it says "escaped" where they don't belong.
That would mean where they are not indigenous.
Virtually all animals that establish themselves in areas where they are not native are considered pests.

quote

Beaver
Beavers are probably the most serious animal pest of timber in the Southeast. Beavers construct dams which flood forest land. They also girdle stems and fell trees (Figure 56). Persistent removal of beavers with appropriate traps, combined with destruction of dams, can effectively reduce beaver damage. (Before undertaking such control tactics, obtain appropriate permits.) Although beaver populations increase slowly due to their low reproductive rate (two young per adult female per year), check for beaver damage periodically and trap if necessary.

end-quote

I fully release they are beneficial in there native habitat.
I never said otherwise.
Anyway unlike Cuba I really don't know much about Beavers.
In closing I think I, and most other North American males are comfortable with
the old homily: Save a tree, eat a Beaver.

Trex

 

[darkbeaver]

Good eviening Trex. That was a very nice story about beavers. Most of it was news to me. I'm in the ancestral homeland of the beaver though, we are considered pests here as well.
Corruption in capitalist economies at this point in history is determined by the size of that economy. I think that's generally true and understood to be true by free democratic economists. You wouldn't eat me would you Trex?

 

[darkbeaver]

Yesterday, 02:30 PM

Canada least corrupt in Americas, report finds
Peter O'Neil, Europe CorrespondentCanwest News Service

Tuesday, September 23, 2008

I'v been think about this claim in the headline and how damaging in is to investment in Canada. I think under some clause in NAFTA the other busnesses in Canada who suffered lost investment capital because of irresponsible journalism like this are entitled to compensation. I should get a lawyers opinion. But it is a disinsentive to investment, capital don't like regulators, Aspers costing us money to sell his stories. He's stealing money from us.

 

[earth_as_one]

Capitilists not like government regulation, but they will accept government bailouts when lack of regulations lead to financial crisis.

If they can do stuff which harms the economy, then they have to be regulated. I am glad Canadian banks are heavy regulated. That's why our banks don't have the same problems as US banks

 

[Trex]

I just wanted to clear up a couple of points if I may.

EagleSmack, I am not a Cuban.
I am a Dual National Canadian.
Canadian/ UK,EU.
I live in Canada.
I just happened to be employed in Cuba,
Worked for the Cubans , hired them, trained them, lived there.
After almost 4 years I decided to go elsewhere for a while.


Praxius,
You misunderstand me.
I do not,have not and never will "hate Cuba".
I do not hate Communists.
Nor Socialist's.
I recognise that it's a diverse world that requires several different systems of governance.

I stated several rather severe problems that are facing Cuba.
If I in any way insulted any Cubans or ex-Cubans for that I apologise.
I do however stand by what I said.

Praxius, you should read what I said a little more carefully before you leap to that windbag DB's defense.
Cuba has issues, and I think under Raul it may slowly start to adapt to the world around it more effectively. I sure hope so.

Praxius, on one thing I would strongly agree with you, the Cubans really are some of the friendliest, helpful and giving people out there.
I have enormous respect for them. Some of them are my friends.
It is strange that some of the people who have the least, give the most.
Some Canadians could learn a lot about life from them.

You too it seems have friends (and even family) who are Cuban.
Well Praxius was anything I said false or untrue?
It should be easy for you to ask.
Ask them about the "carnet" and not ever being allowed to leave their town or village
without written permission, that or a bribe to the policia.
Ask them what it would be like in Canada if we were Communist and led by a Fidel.
I bet they will smile and shake their heads and walk away.
They know we are not tough enough, or resourceful enough to handle that kind of hardship.
Ask them please and get back to us.

I am assuming you feel the need to defend DB who from what I can gather is nothing but a wannabe.
Perhaps you sympathise in DB's strange and hurtful delusions of Western Civilization crashing and burning with all the attending hardship and misery.
I think dreams like that are sad at best.

You point out there are other Communist and Socialist nations apart from Cuba.
Indeed there are.
I have been to, and worked in Russia,China, Venezuela and Myanmar as well as Cuba.
So far I have missed out on Nicaragua, Vietnam and North Korea and a few other's.
Maybe I will get a chance to pick them off later.
I tend to get along quite well with Communists and Socialist's that's obviously why they employ me.

You need to talk to your Cuban friends and family a little more about life under Fidel,
perhaps a guided fact finding trip or two in rural Cuba would enlighten you.
Take DB with you.
I can make a few calls maybe get you guys hooked up with a work camp. Cut and stack a little cane.
The difference between me and you (and DB) is you two talk about what you think and I talk about what I have seen.

And as to me posting while at work in Europe.
Yup.
Well paid too.
Jealous ?

Trex

 

[darkbeaver]

Trex I am a wannabe socialist and I wannabe a socialist in Canada and I will be.

"quoting Trex
Perhaps you sympathise in DB's strange and hurtful delusions of Western Civilization crashing and burning with all the attending hardship and misery.
I think dreams like that are sad at best."

Some of us try to keep up with the news Trex. You're in a state of denial, that's not uncommon for capitalists these days. You're exhibiting fanatic adherance to a failing corrupt economic model that's been ruinous to the planet.Someone will have to use a flamethrower on your bunker in the zoo someday to get you to surrender.
The first step to a healing planet will be the extermination of capitalism, and nobody cares what replaces it as long as they all know it'll never be the bankers again.

 

[EagleSmack]

No ... by United Fruit ... er ... States....

Hmmm... I could have sworn we fought the Spanish in Cuba and wrested Cuba from the Spanish.

 

[lone wolf]

Hmmm... I could have sworn we fought the Spanish in Cuba and wrested Cuba from the Spanish.

Did you forget about the part where United Fruit (et al) treated people like slaves while management and foreign owners lived like kings ... sort of like why America went to war to divest itself of British rule?

Great saviour you....:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

I hope Trex comes back, he seemed a very interesting person that could have helped us elevate our perspectives. I treated him badly and I am sorry.

 

[Praxius]

It is an embargo...not a blockade. Cuba can trade with anyone they wish...we just don't want to trade with them. It is the course that they have chosen. It was all fun until the Soviets stopped sending rubles. Now they want the embargo lifted under their terms.

Besides... they have Canada to trade with... what more can they want?

It boils down to distance and cost, and most cubans call the Embargo "el bloqueo" The Blockade, so what I say is true, based on who you ask.

The Blockade was a poor political attempt to force Cuba into a Democracy which would better suit the US..... it didn't work, it shouldn't be continued, as I imagine there are friends/family in both nations who would like to easily see each other again, and it would open up more markets for not just Cuba, but the US as well.... in a time where you guys seem to need all the money you can get.

Well then you must be an expert then!

Sure, why not?

But seriously... I was in the Marines with Cubans and visit my Marine buddy who is now a lawyer in Miami. I agree, they are wonderful people. The Cubans here in the US are also the reason why the embargo will stand. They do not like the Cuban govt.

The embargo doesn't hurt the government, it hurts the people.

It seems a lot of them hate it as they try to make the escape to the US on anything that will float. Sounds like a wonderful place.

Yeah and many Americans are fleeing across your borders to Mexico and Canada..... everybody has their reasons.

Why hasn't everybody fled Cuba if it was that bad? Why do they stay? Probably because of the same reasons why you don't flee the US.... you like your country and your way of life, even though I find it hard to believe.

Most of the people fleeing Cuba on little make shift boats are usually people trying to change the government or force one thing over another, so if they want to live in a country like that, they ship them off to one that matches that, the US.

And let's not forget that the majority of the Cuban population that came over into the US in the early 80's were actually prisoners/criminals Castro wanted to get rid of..... seemed like a pretty funny joke on his part, lol.

You wouldn't change your mind if you had a whole stadium full of Cubans telling you how awful it is.

You talking about those criminals mentioned above?

And it'd be no different then me standing in a stadium full of Republicans.... just because you fill a big room full of people with a common belief, doesn't make it absolute. Sure it may seem like it is in that atmosphere, but it's not reality.

Once again.... why arn't all Cubans fleeing from Cuba? Why haven't they all revolted? Does Castro have soldiers pointing guns at everybody's head to make sure they do as they are told?

No.

Sorry... too much fun. I shall stay.

I meant move on from the paticular focus of the main topic..... go wherever you please.

It didn't and the OP did not even bring up Cuba. He was saying how Canada was the least corrupt, giving you folks a pat on the back. DB was the one that brought up Cuba and was schooled pretty well.

And I only came in once I read the Beaver remark..... then I just went along with the flow, as I know a few other Cubans who have different points of view compared to just this former one.

I think it is cute that you are sticking up for DB though. I guess he needs help on this.

I'm not sticking up for him, I was sticking up for the beaver species being referred to as pests by someone totally ignorant to their actual functions within the eco system..... that and him spouting his opinion like it's gospel compared to what I have heard first hand, face to face from others, differs from him.

I'm merely balancing the perspective.

There are those who hate Cuba..... there are others who love their country, just like any other nation out there.

But yet they are living in Canada. What does that tell you?

There are Canadians living in the US, such as my uncle, yet the still love the country they were born and raised in.... each person has their own reasons.

My cousin moved to Canada because he was working part time in Cuba, he wanted to broaden his education, and the animation courses here where I live had a few more features then other's he was looking at, not to mention he got married to a Canadian who already had a career here in the country..... it made logical sense to move here. That doesn't mean he hates his country, his family and everything in Cuba.

Come off it.

 

[jimmoyer]

Praxius, it's not so good there in Cuba. That's all Trax was trying to say. I don't think he was very far off the mark. You're overreacting.

(running for cover)

 

[Praxius]

Oooooo...getting testy aren't we?

What's the matter beave...did your feelings get hurt? Your visions of a Cuban Utopia shattered by one who has actually experienced it and lived there as opposed to your readings from globalresearch? Cuba doesn't look as rosy as it once did now did it.

You can call me any thing you want and I will STILL be laughing over this.

You got a Cuban Pressed Sandwich rammed down your throat, a Cuban Banana Cream Pie smashed in your face, finished off with one of Fidel's favorite Cuban cigars shoved in your mouth.

Too funny.

Hey Smack.... Trex opinion isn't absolute, let alone straight from the bible. I have expressed views I have heard and discussed first hand, face to face with home grown Cubans, compared to one faceless person on the internet.

I'm not saying Trex's perspective is wrong, but it's not shared by all from Cuba.

And instead of your prancy cheerleading of what other's have said, how about you dish out some information of your own, rather then parroting the same garbage over and over again.

Frig you're reminding me of that little dog that skipped and pranced around the bulldog on Loony Tunes.

Wow, what are we gonna do today boss, huh huh? Huh? Go get that cat, yeah he ain't so tough, you can take him boss.... yeah, I'm sure you can take him.... his so small and you're so big, I bet you took on bigger cats then him didn't you? Huh Huh Huh? Boy he doesn't stand a chance, huh huh huh?

EEeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaa'SHAD'UP!!! *Smacks up side the head*

 

[Praxius]

Praxius, it's not so good there in Cuba. That's all Trax was trying to say. I don't think he was very far off the mark. You're overreacting.

(running for cover)

No need to run, you make a fair point.... I already understand his perspective, as not all the Cubans I have talked about have all nice things to say either.... I'm just saying that no nation is absolutely perfect to the point where every single person living there or has lived there is always going to love every aspect of it..... government, terrain, people, etc.

This is everywhere you go.

I'm just pointing out that Smack's glouting is a bit over zellous based on one single person's perspective.

 

[EagleSmack]

I just wanted to see him debate Trex about it.