Russia agrees to pull troops out of Georgian territory

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From left, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso meet in Medvedev's residence outside Moscow on Monday.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/09/08/russia-agreement.html

Russian troops will pull out of Georgian territory outside of the disputed areas in South Ossetia and Abkhazia after European monitors deploy next month, Russia's president said Monday.

International talks on the conflict in Georgia will also be held beginning Oct. 15 in Geneva, President Dmitry Medvedev said, adding 200 European Union monitors will be deployed to South Ossetia no later than Oct. 1.

Medvedev spoke Monday at a Moscow news conference after talks with visiting French President Nicholas Sarkozy.

Sarkozy called for total withdrawal of Russian troops, but the agreement between the leaders allows Russia to maintain troops in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Russian troops will pull out of the area near the Black Sea port of Poti and nearby areas in the next seven days, said Medvedev.

He said he received a "guarantee" from France and the EU that Georgia will not use force against Russian troops.

A month after the five-day war, Russian troops remain entrenched deep inside Georgian territory. Georgia and the West have accused Russia of failing to honour its pledge to withdraw its troops to positions held before the fighting broke out Aug. 7.

But Russia has said those troops are peacekeepers and that they are allowed under the accord to help maintain security around Georgia's breakaway provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Moscow has recognized the two regions as independent states, a move denounced in Georgia and the West. The regions make up roughly 20 per cent of Georgia's territory, and include kilometres of prime coastline along the Black Sea.

Medvedev insisted that Russia is complying with terms of the ceasefire that Sarkozy negotiated last month.

Sarkozy suggested that Monday's talks were difficult but "what was accomplished today, it was rather significant," referring in particular to the decision to send European observers.
Georgia takes Russia to international court

While an agreement was reached in Moscow, Georgia accused Russia of a "campaign of harassment and persecution" in South Ossetia and Abkhazia on Monday.

Georgia urged the International Court of Justice in The Hague to issue an order requiring Russia to stop killings and forced expulsions.

Russia has similarly accused Georgia of crimes against humanity, citing Georgia's massive attack last month on South Ossetia that killed Russian peacekeepers and dozens of civilians.

The 15-judge tribunal, unofficially known as the World Court, could take months to decide whether it will hear Georgia's case.

This I found pretty dumb ass of the EU:

"Sarkozy suggested that Monday's talks were difficult but "what was accomplished today, it was rather significant," referring in particular to the decision to send European observers."

^ Why was it so damn difficult.... South Os. got attacked by Georgia, russian peacekeepers were killed, Russia sent in their military and left some behind to maintain order (Which seemed to be taken place) and they found it difficult to send in EU peacekeepers/observers? It's either Russian peacekeepers or EU peacekeepers, but somebody's gotta stay there in order to prevent Georgia from attacking and killing civilians again.

You know, I find it pretty funny when the whole world thinks Israel was justified in blowing the hell up out of civilians over one soldier kidnapped.... yet when Russian peacekeepers are killed, Russia's the bad guy. :roll:
 

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From left, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso meet in Medvedev's residence outside Moscow on Monday.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/09/08/russia-agreement.html



This I found pretty dumb ass of the EU:

"Sarkozy suggested that Monday's talks were difficult but "what was accomplished today, it was rather significant," referring in particular to the decision to send European observers."

^ Why was it so damn difficult.... South Os. got attacked by Georgia, russian peacekeepers were killed, Russia sent in their military and left some behind to maintain order (Which seemed to be taken place) and they found it difficult to send in EU peacekeepers/observers? It's either Russian peacekeepers or EU peacekeepers, but somebody's gotta stay there in order to prevent Georgia from attacking and killing civilians again.

You know, I find it pretty funny when the whole world thinks Israel was justified in blowing the hell up out of civilians over one soldier kidnapped.... yet when Russian peacekeepers are killed, Russia's the bad guy. :roll:

I think the Georgian leadership is a bunch of idiots.

They have lost their break-away provinces due to their own incompetence, stupidity, and eagerness for bloodshed. Sobeit.

At the same time, the Russkies need a solid, clear line in the sand drawn. What remains of Georgia, and the Ukraine, should be admitted to NATO ASAP.
 

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I think NATO should be disbanded as it's sole purpose was to keep Russia in check. The organizaion is being used to bypass veto - in effect, neutering UN.

Please forgive me Lone Wolf.........

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The UN couldn't keep a kindergarten class in check........

Thank God! I should add....
 

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Russia wasn't nice to Jews

So what's your point? Americans wern't nice to Blacks..... and they're currently not nice to Muslims. Heck, they wern't fond of Jews either until they got guilt tripped after WWII.

This sort of game could go on forever, when it comes to picking which countries wern't nice to some group or another, as all countries have their own bad marks in history..... how does this actually relate to the current conflict?
 

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So what's your point? Americans wern't nice to Blacks..... and they're currently not nice to Muslims. Heck, they wern't fond of Jews either until they got guilt tripped after WWII.

This sort of game could go on forever, when it comes to picking which countries wern't nice to some group or another, as all countries have their own bad marks in history..... how does this actually relate to the current conflict?

You know, I find it pretty funny when the whole world thinks Israel was justified in blowing the hell up out of civilians over one soldier kidnapped.... yet when Russian peacekeepers are killed, Russia's the bad guy.

You asked ... I answered. You want fight? Afghanistan needs you
 

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You asked ... I answered. You want fight? Afghanistan needs you

I was referring towards how the west and EU has vilianized Russia for their response to their peacekeepers being killed by Georgia, SouthO. asked Russia to help, and they did...... yet everybody kept all hush hush against Israel when they cluster bombed civilians and killed recklessly.... all for one soldier kidnapped, who was still alive.

And who said anything about me wanting to fight in Afghanistan? A year or two ago I saw some remote cause for it, and I might very well have joined, if I wanted to..... but I don't, the US is ruining every chance of progress made, so it's a lost cause.

Or are you suggesting I join the other side to fight the US to protect Muslims from their tyrany?

Once again, why the hell would I want to go and do that?
 

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Hi praxius
i was wondering if you have seen this.?
Russia Gives Nato 21 Days To Leave Black Sea

Im not sure that they will pull out of the area near the Black Sea port .?

Once again, I can not normally view YouTube videos where I currently am. I can view online news, but not YouTube.

Just did a run around the net to see if I can find offical news on this, but all I found was stuff linking back to YouTube and Facebook.

I will have to perhaps look further when I get a chance.
 

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Once again, I can not normally view YouTube videos where I currently am. I can view online news, but not YouTube.

Just did a run around the net to see if I can find offical news on this, but all I found was stuff linking back to YouTube and Facebook.

I will have to perhaps look further when I get a chance.

Ok im trying to find a link for you that aint YT this any good to ya

LiveLeak.com - Russia Gives Nato 21 Days To Leave Black Sea ...


Video: Re: Russia Gives Nato 21 Days To Leave Black Sea
 

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So what's your point? Americans wern't nice to Blacks..... and they're currently not nice to Muslims. Heck, they wern't fond of Jews either until they got guilt tripped after WWII.

And Canadians weren't nice to First Nations, and they are not nice to Americans.
 

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And Canadians weren't nice to First Nations, and they are not nice to Americans.

That was my point.... which is why I said:

"This sort of game could go on forever, when it comes to picking which countries wern't nice to some group or another, as all countries have their own bad marks in history..... how does this actually relate to the current conflict?"

I just picked the US as an example, because it seems many here have a black and white attitude towards the US representing the West, AKA: the Good Guys.... and the Russians, being the so-called Bad Guys in this situation.

But now we're getting more side tracked.
 

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So what's your point? Americans wern't nice to Blacks..... and they're currently not nice to Muslims. Heck, they wern't fond of Jews either until they got guilt tripped after WWII.

This sort of game could go on forever, when it comes to picking which countries wern't nice to some group or another, as all countries have their own bad marks in history..... how does this actually relate to the current conflict?

A big NO on the forever stuff Praxius Nato/bankers/western/capitalism/american sort/hardupfor operatingcapital. Bleeding in the big time is very expensive these days if you want to be a real player.
 

darkbeaver

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And Canadians weren't nice to First Nations, and they are not nice to Americans.

Stop whineing about it will you. What is up with you people? Who is nice to Americans? Nobody. We're all envious of your values and we hate you because your gods favourite people, the white christian god not the other one.:smile:
 

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[LEFT said:
EagleSmack[/left];984820]The
Ruskies
own the Black Sea now?

Maybe we should tell them to stay out of the Caribbean then.

Is it your job to put down anything i post with a inane reply ,your dislike of me clouds your judgement
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you really should look at the post you reply to to see that ,your whole
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flawed to the point of idiocy