Obama in deep trouble with the law....
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Philip Berg does exist! Apparently he has also sued the government for complicity in 9/11.
Maybe he is just a sh*t disturber!:lol:
http://www.americasright.com/search/label/Barack Hussein Obama
Maybe he is just a sh*t disturber!:lol:
http://www.americasright.com/search/label/Barack Hussein Obama
You found a really good site, Risus!! My oh my!! I can't believe all the dirt that has been dug up!:roll:
America is not yet ready for a black President!:-(
I hope that most of the accusations will prove false, and malicious.
Obama was born in Hawaii. The argument is that at the time of the constitution Hawaii was not a US state, thus everyone from Hawii is natural born citizen. Likewise since Hawii is a Kindom that is occupied by the US, it isn't part of the natural US, so he would not be a natural born citizen. However his mother was American, this is brought into question, is natural born the same as jus sanguis? "When Hawaii became a state, it became settled law that Hawaiians would accept the United States Constitution and give up its monarchy, separate government, and sovereignty for Native Hawaiians. We had a national consensus both in and out of Hawaii that Native Hawaiians would be Americans". However, the Kingdom of Hawaii has reemerged in recent years, so does this mean also that Hawaiian may not be American anymore? To say the effect would be considerabe - suddently all people born in Hawaii would no longer be US citizens - pretty crazy if you ask me.
I think Mr. McCains situatin is a little more out there since he was born in Panama. Although suddently the Monroe Doctrine may be used to define Natural American, in that case mexican illegals and Canadians could all run for the top office - but Sadly.. still not Arnold.
Wikipedia has a good point on this
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The requirements for citizenship and the very definition thereof have changed since the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Congress first recognized the citizenship of children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, under the first naturalization law: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."[9][10]
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I think Mr. McCains situatin is a little more out there since he was born in Panama. Although suddently the Monroe Doctrine may be used to define Natural American, in that case mexican illegals and Canadians could all run for the top office - but Sadly.. still not Arnold.
Wikipedia has a good point on this
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The requirements for citizenship and the very definition thereof have changed since the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Congress first recognized the citizenship of children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, under the first naturalization law: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."[9][10]
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Obama was born Aug 4 1961. If he was born in Hawaii, he was born in the US. Hawaii and Alaska became stars 49 and 50 in 1959
Andrew Jackson who, according to my history prof (and friend) was born at sea on the trip his parents made from Ireland..........
Considering Dr. Toner is the expert on Irish immigration, I'll take his word on it.
I have read the information cited and can only see a problem if his mother was not of the age at his birth stated in the law. She is a US citizen and he would be too regardless of his place of birth IF she met the criteria stated. Even the two birth certificates in Hawaii wouldn't matter as long as his mothers age was correct according to the statute. Thanks Loon for this. It has been rumored for a while but if you notice the main stream media hasn't done anything with it yet. Their hesitance tells me there is more to this story. Tallolla, I told you the negatives would surface soon. While this one is sourced to another Democrat a bundle more are coming.
Of course if Fox had reported it then it would have to be true. After all, they NEVER lie.
Right?
Right?
The biz about Obama's eligibility has been floating around since May -
His campaign group were concerned enough to check on McCain's eligibility because McCain's father was serving in Panama at the time of his birth - but that was cleared up.
Also Obama's group investigated Bill Richardson who was born in the U.S. but grew up in Mexico and they wanted to ascertain he was eligible to run for President - at the very beginning of vetting individuals to run.
The issue for Obama is that the Presidency requires two parents of U.S. citizenship - his father was Kenyan and the mother who is American was not of age to consent to her ownpersonal citizenship. The parental restriction does not
apply to Congress or Senate applications. Whether duality of citizenship is required I do not know that information to post it here.
It is vague and gray and the networks (for once) are staying mute until the matter of Constitutionality is settled.
When Obama's mother moved him to Indonesia to wed her husband Soetero because Obama's father deserted them - he was brought up in Indonesia and may have been
awarded dual citizenship there.
The Constitution ascertains - people in the Congress and Senate can be eligible for service in the Legislature requiring that they are U.S. citizens at the time of campaigning, but the President has to be a full US citizen by birth or parentage. Some feel Obama has duality of citizenship was makes him (so far) ineligible for the Presidency.
The Hawaiian birth certificate muddle is because his name was changed when his mother married Soetero (sp?) and he was given another birth certificate with Barry Soetero listed, but as he has returned to Barack Obama some idiot fudged up a very bad copy and published it on the internet. This second U.S. birth certificate was necessary as he returned to live in Hawaii with his grandparents and enter the school system there, but the name on the Certificate was Barry Soetero and all his records were under that name.
He at the present time is unqualified according to the group who have filed the lawsuit
The Clintons are remaining silent - but it is an issue which arose when Hillary was campaigning for the nomination.
While some prefer to blame Bush or McCain - that is inaccurate information but please feel free to post whatever you believe. I am only posting the information I have been following since the spring. This is my first vote in the US
and I am having a hell of a time studying all of these complications with the candidates.
All of the blogs and the legal discussions have been removed from the internet once the filing was made last week with the Court.
His campaign group were concerned enough to check on McCain's eligibility because McCain's father was serving in Panama at the time of his birth - but that was cleared up.
Also Obama's group investigated Bill Richardson who was born in the U.S. but grew up in Mexico and they wanted to ascertain he was eligible to run for President - at the very beginning of vetting individuals to run.
The issue for Obama is that the Presidency requires two parents of U.S. citizenship - his father was Kenyan and the mother who is American was not of age to consent to her ownpersonal citizenship. The parental restriction does not
apply to Congress or Senate applications. Whether duality of citizenship is required I do not know that information to post it here.
It is vague and gray and the networks (for once) are staying mute until the matter of Constitutionality is settled.
When Obama's mother moved him to Indonesia to wed her husband Soetero because Obama's father deserted them - he was brought up in Indonesia and may have been
awarded dual citizenship there.
The Constitution ascertains - people in the Congress and Senate can be eligible for service in the Legislature requiring that they are U.S. citizens at the time of campaigning, but the President has to be a full US citizen by birth or parentage. Some feel Obama has duality of citizenship was makes him (so far) ineligible for the Presidency.
The Hawaiian birth certificate muddle is because his name was changed when his mother married Soetero (sp?) and he was given another birth certificate with Barry Soetero listed, but as he has returned to Barack Obama some idiot fudged up a very bad copy and published it on the internet. This second U.S. birth certificate was necessary as he returned to live in Hawaii with his grandparents and enter the school system there, but the name on the Certificate was Barry Soetero and all his records were under that name.
He at the present time is unqualified according to the group who have filed the lawsuit
The Clintons are remaining silent - but it is an issue which arose when Hillary was campaigning for the nomination.
While some prefer to blame Bush or McCain - that is inaccurate information but please feel free to post whatever you believe. I am only posting the information I have been following since the spring. This is my first vote in the US
and I am having a hell of a time studying all of these complications with the candidates.
All of the blogs and the legal discussions have been removed from the internet once the filing was made last week with the Court.
I found something in my bookmarks about the questions which Obama will be asked:
This was on a blog which has since been removed for citation purposes. The mods may want to decide if it should remain here - I thought it innocent enough for informational
purposes.
This was on a blog which has since been removed for citation purposes. The mods may want to decide if it should remain here - I thought it innocent enough for informational
purposes.
Now the article states that the guy is a Clinton supporter...but you still blame the McCaine camp.
The Clinton's cannot stand Obama. He wrecked their chances and they, Clinton's and supporters are a bitter vengeful people. They feel they were robbed of what they thought was rightfully theirs.
Personally I do not believe the story.
The US Constitution states:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
McCain might be old but I don't think he was a natural born citizen or a US citizen at the the time of the adoption of the constitution.
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
McCain might be old but I don't think he was a natural born citizen or a US citizen at the the time of the adoption of the constitution.
Kreskin - the whole issue could cover the Highway across Canada with all of the posts I have been reading.
The attorney who filed the objection hopefully will have it cleared up. It gives me brain cramp.
Last nite McCain told Jay Leno his SS Number was "8" he is so old !! haha
The attorney who filed the objection hopefully will have it cleared up. It gives me brain cramp.
Last nite McCain told Jay Leno his SS Number was "8" he is so old !! haha
Crazy stuff. I get the feeling that Obama is running against just about everyone in power. Perhaps this is the issue Hillary was referring to when she made the comment about RJK. She seemed confident something was boiling over. No matter what happens to him in this race it is amazing he has come this far, considering all the roadblocks including the Clintons.