WOW!
This thread went downhill fast.
I quit when I realized that Praxius is a hopeless statist..........no sense arguing with him, I believe in the rights of the individual, he believes in the rights of the State....there is no chance of reconciliation on those grounds.
And this is also what happens when someone leaves a debate and then comes back after a few pages.... they miss most of what was said and then they pull out their own assumptions out of their arse as to what occured.
Just because I'm not too keen on the concept of every joe blow having a gun on them as I walk down the street, doesn't make me a Statist or whatever name you can think of. Where I live, nobody has needed the requirement of possessing a gun in public for their own safety, and I see no practicallity for people to start carrying them where I live now.
And if the society in which I live in right now, in my little spot on the planet, can live perfectly fine (For the most part) without everybody having to be loaded up with guns, and in continual fear of being attacked..... oh and the current system is working..... then I see no justification for other places needing them as a right to protect them.
Oh, and you don't have to agree with what I'm saying.... just in case I might have sent you some subliminal message in my writting forcing you the agree. If you are compelled to agree with my opinion because it just makes more logical sense then the other side of the argument, well that's just truth working it's magic.
Then again, maybe it's not.... once again, it all depends on your own perspective, which you are free to decide for yourself.
You don't see me with a gun to your head forcing you to agree with me do you? (pun intended)
i could write a damn book on how the recognition of individual rights was forced on the state, and how the degradation of those rights will be the undoing of our free society, but I'd be wasting my time......so
I'm outta here.
Huh? You're arguing the individual rights of one country, which never were the case in this country, which remain in the other country, as being trampled on and will doom us from a free society, all for the sake of concepts that might reduce the availability of firearms for everyone, including the people screwed up in the head?
Canada has never had the rights to bear arms in our foundation like the US has, and yet we seem to be doing pretty well for ourselves overall..... yet because we don't have a written down right to own firearms, Canada is a Police State, or those who don't feel they're necissary are Statists?
See.... now who's generalizing?