War on Iran! Close, Inevitable or Ordained/Sanctified?

[MikeyDB]

It's simple enough. Don't pay any attention to the lies of the American government, just pick a side.....

If in fact the Americans are manipulated once again into a conflict with someone identified and targetted by Israel.... guess who's in charge....

Colpy will finally be pleased that millions might die in the name of supporting his Israeli brothers. Pick a side....but don't think about peace or alternatives....just sign-on to expanding the mistake made in 1947.

 

[Zzarchov]

To be Fair, India and Pakistan aren't stable, its only a few years since they barely avoided nuking each other, and they have had many many wars in recent history.

Iran is also an unstable regime, its younger generation (50% under 25) are culturally, more western than Islamic, this is causing significant rifts and raises the spectre of the situation in eastern europe in the 80's, in the long term good, but scary when nukes are involved.

 

[dancing-loon]

Bomb, bomb Iran.

Thank you, Scott.... a great and fitting video!:lol:

 

[MikeyDB]

Zzarhov

Why would you suppose that the "unstable" states of Pakistan and India aren't the focus of our attention today? Might it be that no Pakistani or Indian has the influence and access to American engineered media that Zionists do..?

 

[dancing-loon]

....If in fact the Americans are manipulated once again into a conflict with someone identified and targeted by Israel.... guess who's in charge....

Good Morning, Mikey;
here is an article that pretty much confirms who manipulates whom!;-)

Israel Prodding U.S. To Attack Iran
"The Israelis have been assured by the Bush administration that the Bush administration will not allow Iran to nuclearize," Oren said. "Israelis are uncertain about what would be the policies of the next administration vis-à-vis Iran."

Israel's message is simple: If you don't, we will. But military analysts say Israel can not do it alone.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...r=HOME_4206201
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Would Russia really get on Iran's side, as promised?

 

[MikeyDB]

Israel will continue to manipulate its dumb-cousin the United States until all of Israel's "enemies" are declared terrorists or they're dead. To give the devil his due, Israel is no fool. We look at who is making the most in war-profiteering while the American economy drifts into the toilet.... America has given Israel its most powerful weapon...their greed. As Israel makes the marionette dance....the U.S. under the camouflage of "spreading democracy around the world..." sets up military bases and grabs oil to keep the wealthy elite of America in "business". Those who believe that the events of 9/11 and the American invasion of Iraq are related...are absolutely right....but for the wrong reasons.

Perhaps it's time that the manipulation of the United Nations came to an end. Perhaps its time for Israel to glow in the dark.

 

[iARTthere4iam]

You all love conspiracies don't you?

There will be no war with Iran any time soon. Regardless of who is whos puppet or who is attempting to manipulat who.

There are of course plans to attack Iran in the works by the US military I would be shocked if there weren't.

Several reasons there won't be a war are...

1) Bush is on the way out and so the Iran will not do much to provoke an attack but will wait for the next pres who will be less aggressive and more willing to negotiate.

2)the US is tied up on two fronts and simply can't afford another.

3)The republicans would not allow that now as it would be a blowout come election time. The American people are looking for some peace and would flock to the Democrats en masse.

 

[Colpy]

Israel will continue to manipulate its dumb-cousin the United States until all of Israel's "enemies" are declared terrorists or they're dead. To give the devil his due, Israel is no fool. We look at who is making the most in war-profiteering while the American economy drifts into the toilet.... America has given Israel its most powerful weapon...their greed. As Israel makes the marionette dance....the U.S. under the camouflage of "spreading democracy around the world..." sets up military bases and grabs oil to keep the wealthy elite of America in "business". Those who believe that the events of 9/11 and the American invasion of Iraq are related...are absolutely right....but for the wrong reasons.

Perhaps it's time that the manipulation of the United Nations came to an end. Perhaps its time for Israel to glow in the dark.

Well, Mikey, your psychosis has slipped over the line......

 

[Colpy]

Israel will continue to manipulate its dumb-cousin the United States until all of Israel's "enemies" are declared terrorists or they're dead. To give the devil his due, Israel is no fool. We look at who is making the most in war-profiteering while the American economy drifts into the toilet.... America has given Israel its most powerful weapon...their greed. As Israel makes the marionette dance....the U.S. under the camouflage of "spreading democracy around the world..." sets up military bases and grabs oil to keep the wealthy elite of America in "business". Those who believe that the events of 9/11 and the American invasion of Iraq are related...are absolutely right....but for the wrong reasons.

Perhaps it's time that the manipulation of the United Nations came to an end. Perhaps its time for Israel to glow in the dark.

Well, Mikey, you have officially blown your cover.

"Perhaps its time for Israel to glow in the dark" ?????????

So, do your jackboots still fit? How about the double lightening bolts.....still shiny? And the Death's Head insignia?

This pisses me off, Mikey.

Quit pretending you give a crap about injustice....all you want is dead Jews.

(Sorry about the double post)

 

[Zzarchov]

Israel’s Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz says an attack will be inevitable unless Iran ends its nuclear experiments


The latest IAEA report clearly and conclusively shows that Iran does NOT have nukes and is not in violation of its rules. Therefore, Israel has no business making any threats to that government. It is time for the UN to put a stop to its terrorist aggressions.

Uh huh, the UN doesn't have any ability to stop terrorist actions. It doesn't have an army nor can it compel one to act.

If it could, why didn't it intervene in Rwanda?

Are Iranians more important than Africans?

 

[Colpy]

Bomb, bomb Iran.

Oh, I do like Mr. McCain

 

[scratch]

Check this out! There are more reasons than one to attack Iran.http://chinaconfidential.blogspot.co...emitic_06.html

In My Personal Humble Opinion / Without Prejudice / With All Due Respect

Believe nothing of what you read, half of what you hear and all of what you see.
In other words, simply put: Don't be so gullible.

 

[einmensch]

Oh, I do like Mr. McCain

birds of a feather.

 

[darkbeaver]

Oh, I do like Mr. McCain

Why oh why does a sick piece of psycopathic **** like that appeal to you, that is one goldplated scum bag.

 

[Risus]

birds of a feather.

Warmongers...

 

[TehranTim]

I don't have anything against the US, most people I know have nothing against the US, my government has nothing against the US, but the Israelis for their own geopolitical reasons are pushing hard for an American war on Iran. We'd have normalized relations with the US, and there damn sure wouldn't be talks of a war if it wasn't for Israeli instigation (with the help of their tribesman in Washington like AIPAC and the Neoconservatives).

 

[Colpy]

I don't have anything against the US, most people I know have nothing against the US, my government has nothing against the US, but the Israelis for their own geopolitical reasons are pushing hard for an American war on Iran. We'd have normalized relations with the US, and there damn sure wouldn't be talks of a war if it wasn't for Israeli instigation (with the help of their tribesman in Washington like AIPAC and the Neoconservatives).

Perhaps if your leaders didn't speak of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel, or if they quit supporting murderous Hamas or genocidal Hezbollah (which murders Jews world-wide) Israel might find something better to do than blow the hell out of potential nuclear arms-making installations.

Mark my words.

There will be no US attack on Iran.

Period.

There might be a limited Israeli strike on nuclear targets in Iran.

the sooner the better.

 

[quandary121]

The Coming Catastrophe?
The finishing touches on several contingency plans for attacking Iran

by David DeBatto

Global Research, June 23, 2008

Global Research Editor's note ​

We bring to the attention of our readers David DeBatto's scenario as to what might occur if one of the several contingency plans to attack Iran, with the participation of Israel and NATO, were to be carried out. While one may disagree with certain elements of detail of the author's text, the thrust of this analysis must be taken seriously. ​

"Israel has said a strike on Iran will be "unavoidable" if the Islamic regime continues to press ahead with alleged plans for building an atom-bomb." (London Daily Telegraph, 6/11/2008)​

"Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany joined President Bush on Wednesday in calling for further sanctions against Iran if it does not suspend its uranium enrichment program." Mr. Bush stressed again that "all options are on the table," which would include military force. (New York Times, 6/11/2008)​

We are fast approaching the final six months of the Bush administration. The quagmire in Iraq is in its sixth painful year with no real end in sight and the forgotten war in Afghanistan is well into its seventh year. The "dead enders" and other armed factions are still alive and well in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan again controls most of that country. Gas prices have now reached an average of $4.00 a gallon nationally and several analysts predict the price will rise to $5.00-$6.00 dollars per gallon at the pump by Labor Day. This, despite assurances by some major supporters of the decision to invade Iraq that the Iraq war "will pay for itself" (Paul Wolfowitz) or that we will see "$20.00 per barrel" oil prices if we invade Iraq (Rupert Murdoch).
One thing the Pentagon routinely does (and does very well) is conduct war games. Top brass there are constantly developing strategies for conducting any number of theoretical missions based on real or perceived threats to our national security or vital interests. This was also done prior to the invasion of Iraq, but the Bush administration chose not to listen to the dire warnings about that mission given to him by Pentagon leaders, or for that matter, by his own senior intelligence officials. Nevertheless, war gaming is in full swing again right now with the bullseye just to the right of our current mess – Iran.
It’s no secret that the U.S. is currently putting the finishing touches on several contingency plans for attacking Iranian nuclear and military facilities. With our ground forces stretched to the breaking point in Iraq and Afghanistan, none of the most likely scenarios involve a ground invasion. Not that this administration wouldn’t prefer to march into the seat of Shiite Islam behind a solid, moving line of M1 Abrams tanks and proclaim the country for democracy. The fact is that even the President knows we can’t pull that off any more so he and the neo-cons will have to settle for Shock and Awe Lite.
If we invade Iran this year it will be done using hundreds of sorties by carrier based aircraft already stationed in the Persian Gulf and from land based aircraft located in Iraq and Qatar. They will strike the known nuclear facilities located in and around Tehran and the rest of the country as well as bases containing major units of the Iranian military, anti-aircraft installations and units of the Revolutionary Guard (a separate and potent Iranian para-military organization).
Will this military action stop Iran’s efforts to develop nuclear weapons? Probably not. It will probably not even destroy all of their nuclear research facilities, the most sensitive of which are known to be underground, protected by tons of earth and reinforced concrete and steel designed to survive almost all attacks using conventional munitions. The Iranian military and Revolutionary Guard will most likely survive as well, although they will suffer significant casualties and major bases and command centers will undoubtedly be destroyed. However, since Iran has both a functioning Air Force, Navy (including submarines) and modern anti-aircraft capabilities, U.S. fighter-bombers will suffer casualties as well. This will not be a "Cake Walk" as with the U.S. led invasion of Iraq in 2003 when the Iraqi Army simply melted away and the Iraqi Air Force never even launched a single aircraft.
Not even close.
If the United States attacks Iran either this summer or this fall, the American people had better be prepared for a shock that may perhaps be even greater to the national psyche (and economy) than 9/11. First of all, there will be significant U.S. casualties in the initial invasion. American jets will be shot down and the American pilots who are not killed will be taken prisoner - including female pilots. Iranian Yakhonts 26, Sunburn 22 and Exocet missiles will seek out and strike U.S. naval battle groups bottled up in the narrow waters of the Persian Gulf with very deadly results. American sailors will be killed and U.S. ships will be badly damaged and perhaps sunk. We may even witness the first attack on an American Aircraft carrier since World War II.

That’s just the opening act.
Israel (who had thus far stayed out of the fray by letting the U.S. military do the heavy lifting) is attacked by Hezbollah in a coordinated and large scale effort. Widespread and grisly casualties effectively paralyze the nation, a notion once thought impossible. Iran’s newest ally in the region, Syria, then unleashes a barrage of over 200 Scud B, C and D missiles at Israel, each armed with VX gas. Since all of Israel is within range of these Russian built weapons, Haifa, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and virtually all major civilian centers and several military bases are struck, often with a result of massive casualties.
The Israeli Air Force orders all three squadrons of their F-16I Sufa fighter/bombers into the air with orders to bomb Tehran and as many military and nuclear bases as they can before they are either shot down or run out of fuel. It is a one way trip for some of these pilots. Their ancient homeland lies in ruins. Many have family that is already dead or dying. They do not wait for permission from Washington, DC or U.S. regional military commanders. The Israeli aircraft are carrying the majority of their country’s nuclear arsenal under their wings.
Just after the first waves of U.S. bombers cross into Iranian airspace, the Iranian Navy, using shore based missiles and small, fast attack craft sinks several oil tankers in the Straits of Hormuz, sealing off the Persian Gulf and all its oil from the rest of the world. They then mine the area, making it difficult and even deadly for American minesweepers to clear the straits. Whatever is left of the Iranian Navy and Air Force harasses our Navy as it attempts minesweeping operations. More U.S casualties.
The day after the invasion Wall Street (and to a lesser extent, Tokyo, London and Frankfurt) acts as it always does in an international crisis – irrational speculative and spot buying reaches fever pitch and sends the cost of oil skyrocketing. In the immediate aftermath of the U.S. invasion of Iran, the price of oil goes to $200.00 - $300.00 dollars a barrel on the open market. If the war is not resolved in a few weeks, that price could rise even higher. This will send the price of gasoline at the pump in this country to $8.00-$10.00 per gallon immediately and subsequently to even higher unthinkable levels.
If that happens, this country shuts down. Most Americans are not be able to afford gas to go to work. Truckers pull their big rigs to the side of the road and simply walk away. Food, medicine and other critical products are not be brought to stores. Gas and electricity (what is left of the short supply) are too expensive for most people to afford. Children, the sick and elderly die from lack of air-conditioned homes and hospitals in the summer. Children, the sick and elderly die in the winter for lack of heat. There are food riots across the country. A barter system takes the place of currency and credit as the economy dissolves and banks close or limit withdrawals. Civil unrest builds.
The police are unable to contain the violence and are themselves victims of the same crisis as the rest of the population. Civilian rule dissolves and Martial Law is declared under provisions approved under the Patriot Act. Regular U.S. Army and Marine troops patrol the streets. The federal government apparatus is moved to an unknown but secure location. The United States descends into chaos and becomes a third world country. Its time as the lone superpower is over.
It doesn’t get any worse than this.

Then the first Israeli bomber drops its nuclear payload on Tehran.

David DeBatto is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent, Iraqi war veteran and co-author the "CI" series from Warner Books and the upcoming "Counter to Intelligence" from Praeger Security International.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9437

OIL AND WAR WHAT MORE CAN I SAY...!!!

 

[TehranTim]

Perhaps if your leaders didn't speak of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel.

I'm not gonna get into the rest of your post, but just to demonstrate your credibility on this subject, I'll put forth a challenge.

Your claim is that we have spoken of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel.

That's your claim. Now I'm going to ask you to give us a reputable source to back up that claim.

Failure to do so will expose you as a liar and a fraud. I think you're smarter than that however, and you wouldn't pull statements out of your backside. So I'm giving you the opportunity here to back up what you said.

 

[lone wolf]

Oops.... Here's the part our resident propagandist isn't so good at.... That sound you hear is Colpy extracting his feet from his mouth....