The next american president

gopher

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McLame:'' The Great Betrayal ''

http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_02_11/buchanan.html


``Offering more “straight talk” on the Sunday before the Florida primary, John McCain made an arresting prediction: “It’s a tough war we’re in. It’s not going to be over right away. There’s going to be other wars. I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars.” Ike promised to “go to Korea” and ended that war. Nixon pledged to end Vietnam with honor. McCain says we may be in Iraq a hundred years and warns, “there’s going to be other wars.” Take the man at his word.
Mimicking the Beach Boys’ “Barbara Ann,” McCain has joked about “Bomb, bomb, bomb—bomb, bomb Iran” and urged the expulsion of Russia from the G-8. He wants to expand NATO to bring in Georgia and the Ukraine. This could mean confrontation between Russia and the United States...``




Note that it is written by conservative Pat Buchanan.
 

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The Madness of John McCain
A militarist suffering from acute narcissism and armed with the Bush Doctrine is not fit to be commander in chief.



http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_02_11/cover.html


``McCain isn’t bothered by the failure of his prediction, just as the absence of WMD in Iraq didn’t phase him in the least. He is an actor following a script that was written years ago and cannot be altered because of mere facts: he is McCain the Conqueror, the fearless war hero, the commander in chief who will lead us to victory and stay in Iraq, as he told Mother Jones magazine, for “a thousand years, a million years” because American grit will tame those obstreperous Iraqis, just as we tamed the Koreans, the Bosnians, the Japanese, and the rest.``




Again, from the conservative Amcon Magazine.
 

normbc9

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If Americans were able to caopture an can all of the promises made by politicians aspit=ring to be the POTUS and we actually were able to convert all the rhetoric into action the US would be a paradise. It isn't now and the chances are slim to none it will ever be. Whatever comes of this round of campaigning the one fact for sure is that if all of the rhetoric was converted into brass those owning it would have enough to completely outfit two full Symphony Orchestras. Right now all I hear is desperate candidates hoping they can sound serious enough to convince the voters they should be the only choice for the job. All I see is greed at work and a real quest for power.
 

gopher

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McLame has dirty hands and probes too deeply into Bush's personal business:




 

normbc9

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The McCain rhetoric tells me "More of the same" and that is not what the nation needs. This time it looks like we'll be served two plates of dung and the choice will be to vote for the one with the less offensive odor. That is pathetic. The two party system has to have a third member and it needs it now.
 

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True. But it remains interesting that McLame is only being criticized by the right wing and not by anyone else.

That's because a lot of his views and past positions are not in tune with the Republican platform. His record on immigration, taxes, abortion, stem cell research and gay marriage have left a lot of Republicans on the fence. Many will sit out this election.
 

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That's because a lot of his views and past positions are not in tune with the Republican platform. His record on immigration, taxes, abortion, stem cell research and gay marriage have left a lot of Republicans on the fence. Many will sit out this election.

If Hillary runs for President the Republicans will be voting in droves, they hate Hillary more than McCain's "liberal" views. If it's Obama, they're staying home and Obama wins.
 

jimmoyer

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Also I would love to see Obama and McCain in the general election.

There will be a more legit debate on the issues.

If Hillary would be in the general election, it would be more about her personality and the "Billary question". Thus the issues will go undiscussed.

I like both Obama and McCain for different reasons.
 

EagleSmack

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I think Obama may be the next President. I just have that feeling. I think the people want change and Hillary does not really offer that...nor does McCaine.
 

EagleSmack

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Clinton is unelectable and I'm glad to see her nomination campaign flagging. Obama will likely win in Texas and Ohio and Clinton is probably toast. The longer the campaign goes on, the stronger Obama will be. Against Obama in a presidential election, McCain doesn't stand a chance.

I think McCaine does stand a chance and it will be close. It will most likely be a Red State-Blue State thing again. McCaine will win the south minus Florida, the mountain states and the South West. Obama will win the North East, Great Lake States and West Coast. It will most likely come down to those Ohio, and Pennsylvania votes and the Mid West. JMO.
 

MikeyDB

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I just don't know how anyone wouldn't vote for John McCain...He's lied about using coporate provided jets after claiming that's something he'd never do...

Sounds perfectly acceptable for the leader of the United States....

A winning formula..... A liar in the Oval Office...gee that'd be something new now wouldn't it!?
 

Colpy

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I just don't know how anyone wouldn't vote for John McCain...He's lied about using coporate provided jets after claiming that's something he'd never do...

Sounds perfectly acceptable for the leader of the United States....

A winning formula..... A liar in the Oval Office...gee that'd be something new now wouldn't it!?

A little niave, Mikey.....do you know anyone that HASN'T lied?

We do expect a human being to be elected.

Is lying acceptable?

No.

But you only have so many choices, and Jesus Christ isn't among them.
 

normbc9

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Both sides are busy stabbing their opponents in the back right now but we must learn from all of this. If these so called bosom buddies from 2007 are now trying to knock each other off in 2008 what do you think they'd tell us to get our vote? I don't like any of the leading candidates from either Party and now I'm afraid the November vote won't be for a candidate we like and feel good about but rather a vote to try to defeat another candidate we don't trust. Sad!!!
 

EagleSmack

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Both sides are busy stabbing their opponents in the back right now but we must learn from all of this. If these so called bosom buddies from 2007 are now trying to knock each other off in 2008 what do you think they'd tell us to get our vote? I don't like any of the leading candidates from either Party and now I'm afraid the November vote won't be for a candidate we like and feel good about but rather a vote to try to defeat another candidate we don't trust. Sad!!!

That has pretty much been the state of US Politics for quite some time. It isn't about the best candidate for the job as it is about beating the other party no matter what they stand for.
 

MikeyDB

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I've been accused of many things but naïveté isn't one of them..:)

While the relationship any candidate may have with the theory of "truth" is dubious, the policies that an administration conjointly build and exercise isn't the act of any single person. Recently we're seeing once again that the policies of the American "government" eager to divide and factionalize Europe has resulted in riots and violence in Kosovo/Serbia.

While instant recognition of Kosovo as a legitimate state may further the ambitions of the American geopolitical war-machine..."We'll recognize you as a "nation" if you let us build military bases and conduct America's model of "business as usual" in your new nation..." It should be apparent to everyone but an American that the policies of dividing states...Hungary, Korea, Viet Nam, Serbia, and others serves the interests of the military industrial complex of America and leaves the resident population vulnerable to fanaticism given the hatred for America that American foreign policies have generated for decades.

What's wrong with American policies is that the government of that nation is controlled not by those seeking peaceful co-existence with anyone but by corporations that are prepared to invade nations, kill anyone and everyone who challenges their "authority" and then claim that a "war on terrorism" is the expression of anyone else but the real source of the forces of divissiveness and conflict that reside inside the Washington beltway...