hey thats a good point. something to think about. but you know what, i cant even imagine seeing women as priests.
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hey thats a good point. something to think about. but you know what, i cant even imagine seeing women as priests.
Do women who are of the Roman Catholic Faith feel comfortable in their secondary role as dictated by the church?
Perhaps we in modern times have gone too far in the search for equality of the sexes and perhaps women would prefer to be educated but still have a more accepting role in their faith - that of a mother or nurturing person.
Perhaps the role isn't secondary at all to men - only one unique to women therefore to be honored as such and that is how women of that faith see themselves.
Perhaps we in modern times have gone too far in the search for equality of the sexes and perhaps women would prefer to be educated but still have a more accepting role in their faith - that of a mother or nurturing person.
Perhaps the role isn't secondary at all to men - only one unique to women therefore to be honored as such and that is how women of that faith see themselves.
I think trying to pretend everyone is equal in all areas at all times is a little silly. It has really never bothered me that women can't be priests, because I've never in all of my time in the church, had a problem having my voice heard. I've never by anyone been made to feel lower than a man. The only instances I can think of in my life that ocurred to make me feel less because I was a woman, ocurred at the hands of family.
It's a pagan thing same as the ritual canibalism at the alter with the blood and flesh of christ ritually consumed by the petitioners.Not much different than eating the warrior you have defeated in battle and in incorporating his/her power.The church has always pretended to be above the pagan beliefs but has always remained in thrall to the old ways, barely varnished with its monotheistic nonesense.There is not an original bone in the whole construct. The father of the modern transnational corporation.Lent and lint, what's the difference? Before chocolate we used chickens and goats.:wave:
I agree. Another thing that ocurred to me is that many Catholics don't take the story of creation as a literal truth, they believe that God set evolution in motion. But if God set evolution in motion, did He intend for it to cease upon the arrival of His son? Did He mean for us to stay in one place, never change, never grow? I highly doubt He did.
You may consider this question to give you some perspective: Why can't a man be a mother since men and women can both receive the Eucharist? The answer then becomes a little more clear I hope. Men and women were created equal but different with gifts and abilities unique to their gender. Example men will never know the honour of brining new life into the world. What an honour women have to be God's very vessel of each new person He creates.
Likewise women are not meant to be the head of man in the home or in the church. Our roles are unique. Equally important but different still the same.
Likewise women are not meant to be the head of man in the home or in the church. Our roles are unique. Equally important but different still the same.
If being a priest was merely a ministry then absolutely women should be allowed. However priesthood is a sacrament and therefore we cannot alter it from the way Jesus instituted it.
The Church teaches that in a sacrament the object used actually confers the grace. Example if instead of a wafer we used chocolate for the eucharist would it still be the eucharist???maybe yes, maybe no we have no guarantee that the chocolate has become the BBD of Christ. However Jesus used unleavened bread so we know that that definetly works, its the same with priesthood.
I don't think. I think it is natural for a man to be head of his family. They take his name after all.
It's not to show God anything. It's a sign that you can make to increase your devotions and prayers at this time, a physical symbol of preparation for the coming of Easter.
We had to give up television too. This year I think i'm going for my passion-chocolate.
Good for you DurkaDurka! You are questioning the medieval ideas of the church and family and so you should. Don't ever take a backseat to men if they want to perpetuate chauvinist ideas. Completely half of all women in the U.S today are not married. That's saying something to men about their traditional roles I assure you, as a man.
That dosen't mean that I am in charge of my home, just that there always has to be a symbolic head and it is usually the man.
Nothing more than a statistic now that you have asked. Did you not understand that?
It's much more than symbolic for a lot of Christians. And of course it progresses to pure evil in the case of Muslim and especiall the Taliban. Do you understand the stance of the southern Baptists on the issue? And yes, all Christian beliefs are relevant to this discussion regardless of whether you object or not my friend.
I would be fair enough perhaps if it was only symbolic. Of course it's not and in fact it doesn't even have to be symbolic.
Come on girls, I can't carry the ball for you indefinitely! ;-)
I wasn't indicating that women ARE secondary - I was asking women who believe in the Roman Catholic Faith if their role is felt to be "secondary"..... I hardly think the comment that I was
being silly is very complimentary.
As I do not belong to that faith I was gathering information.... I thought that was the idea of forums... there is nothing silly in asking questions is there?