The Tarriff Hype.

Ron in Regina

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So, does Trump have any chance of winning his trade war with Canada?

The truth is that it’s hard even to figure out what a Trump win would mean in this context. Would it mean Canada agreeing to become the 51st state? That’s not going to happen Would it mean Canada giving up on French as a co-equal language with English? That also won’t happen.

Or would it mean Canada making enough concessions that Trump could at least claim victory? That’s also tricky, because until Trump went on the attack, Canada wasn’t doing anything wrong. It can’t promise to end unfair policies when there basically never were any such policies.

The bottom line is that Trump is going to lose his trade war with Canada as thoroughly as he has lost his shooting war with Iran. But because he won’t face reality, trade with Canada will probably be disrupted until the narcissistic bully in the White House no longer controls trade policy.
 

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Would it mean Canada giving up on French as a co-equal language with English? That also won’t happen.
The problem is that French is not on equal footing with English. Bill C-13 passed by Trudeau gives preferential treatment to French speaking Canadians. At the federal level, Bill C-13 affords French speaking minorities in Canada the right to work in and be served in French in Federal institutions where numbers warrant. The law is not reciprocal for English speaking minorities in Canada. Due to Bill C-13, English speaking minorities don’t have rights at the Federal level to be served in and work in English in Quebec where numbers warrant.

Elon Musk exposed Canada for its biased and preferential treatment towards French speaking Canadians at the expense of English speaking Quebeckers. For this and many other reasons, Canada is broken, and many of us no longer trust our government and welcome a takeover from a Country that actually respects individual rights and it’s constitution.

There’s also Bills 96 and 101 in Quebec that literally amount to anti-English hate laws. I’d be fined heavily if I were to hypothetically post an English language billboard in Quebec in violation of my freedom of expression rights. These rights apply to all Canadians.

So, no. English and French ARE NOT on equal footing in Canada.

U.S. Congress is familiar with all of these discriminatory and anti-English hate laws in Quebec as interested parties made sure that members of both the House and Senate received details on the contents of both Bills C-13 and 96.
 
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55Mercury

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Don't you love how Quebec likes to use the notwithstanding clause of a Constitution that it refused to sign?

In my opinion the fact that they use the notwithstanding clause makes them a de facto signatory to that same Constitution.
 

Ron in Regina

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Apr 9, 2008
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Regina, Saskatchewan
The problem is that French is not on equal footing with English. Bill C-13 passed by Trudeau gives preferential treatment to French speaking Canadians. At the federal level, Bill C-13 affords French speaking minorities in Canada the right to work in and be served in French in Federal institutions where numbers warrant. The law is not reciprocal for English speaking minorities in Canada. Due to Bill C-13, English speaking minorities don’t have rights at the Federal level to be served in and work in English in Quebec where numbers warrant.

Elon Musk exposed Canada for its biased and preferential treatment towards French speaking Canadians at the expense of English speaking Quebeckers. For this and many other reasons, Canada is broken, and many of us no longer trust our government and welcome a takeover from a Country that actually respects individual rights and it’s constitution.

There’s also Bills 96 and 101 in Quebec that literally amount to anti-English hate laws. I’d be fined heavily if I were to hypothetically post an English language billboard in Quebec in violation of my freedom of expression rights. These rights apply to all Canadians.

So, no. English and French ARE NOT on equal footing in Canada.

U.S. Congress is familiar with all of these discriminatory and anti-English hate laws in Quebec as interested parties made sure that members of both the House and Senate received details on the contents of both Bills C-13 and 96.
Does that change anything though? Steven Harper was able to become Prime Minister without Quebec., but can you name another Prime Minister that managed the same thing in your lifetime?

The Carney government and the Trump administration have spent the last few days trading accusations over which side is to blame for the dramatic collapse of negotiations last week, with each accusing the other of making unacceptable last-minute demands and offering competing accounts of what exactly led to an all-out trade war.

“Declaring "transparency is essential" in that debate, Poilievre has called on Carney to "release the proposed text" so that Canadians can see the American demands that prompted the breakdown in negotiations.

"Canadians deserve to know what is the deal that the prime minister at first planned to accept and then later decided to reject," he said at a news conference in Windsor on Tuesday. "There are no national secrets in that text. It's already been shown to the United States administration.

But Canadian officials are brushing off any suggestion that the failed agreement should be released. On Tuesday, Finance Minister François-Philippe (Frankie Bubbles) Champagne did not directly answer when asked if the government would make all of the details public. "This is probably the most publicly advertised negotiation of a trade agreement I could recall," Champagne told reporters. "So in terms of transparency, I think Canadians have been able to follow that even on a daily basis."🙄

It’s fair for critics to question Ottawa's decision to walk away, the Canadians and the Americans have good reasons not to release detailed terms before a deal gets finalized. "These documents are extremely technical ... you're talking about hundreds, if not thousands, of pages," said Soudas (Stephen Harper’s former Director of communications) whose government negotiated dozens of trade deals. "The moment paper becomes public ... it becomes impossible to reach a deal because everybody has their thing that they say, 'No, you can't do that,' or, 'Yes, you have to do this.'"

Carney has said last-minute demands from the Trump administration included limiting Canada's ability to strike trade deals with other countries, exempting heavy-duty Canadian trucks from auto tariff relief, and taking aim at rules boosting French content online. However, American officials have denied it was them who derailed the agreement. U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer told CNBC on Monday that Canada's negotiators were offered "the best access to the United States of any country in the world" but "they wanted to retain their sovereignty more."

Anyway, here’s news from India:
(YouTube & Trump Is Bullying Canada. But America Could Get Hurt Too |The Palki Sharma Show |India Global Review)
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Three moves in the last week have exposed the limits of Donald Trump’s economic bullying. The US slapped 50% tariffs on another $20bn of Canadian goods – then threatened the same rate on the cars, trucks, parts and steel that America Inc depends on. On Monday, the Treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, menaced Iran’s trading partners with exclusion from the US financial network, hoping that coercion can deliver what months of war have not. And as the costs of war, tariffs and pro-billionaire tax cuts helped send US bond yields higher, the Treasury stepped in to tame long-term rates. These are not contradictory policies but a gamble: that US economic power can be repeatedly weaponised without reducing others’ willingness to depend on it.

Nations hold one another’s currencies partly because they trust the political relationship. Mr Trump is testing what happens when they don’t. The trade war with Canada is economically stupid and legally dubious. In 2025, the Trump tariffs amounted to an average tax increase of $1,000 per US household. More than a quarter of Canadian exports to the US are now subject to significant tariffs or threatened with tougher ones. Ottawa’s retaliation will start in September. North American production has been organised around such trade flows and tariffs will make both Canadian and US manufacturing more expensive, not less.

Why Canada? Washington has largely given up trying to change China’s economic model. Canada is seen as a soft target. Mr Trump picks on a friendly neighbour because that is what bullies do. This cannot go on. American economic power depends on other countries wanting to remain in a system the US dominates. Mr Trump thinks their dependence is his weapon. The more often he uses it against them, the harder they should look for the exit.
Donald Trump was determined to have his way with Iran only to find that Iran wasn’t willing to bend to his commands. Then he tried the same technique – demands, tough talk, threats of punishment – with Canada only to find the same result. The stunning break in trade negotiations, which Mr. Trump had signalled were on the verge of settlement – much like the negotiations with Iran, which he repeatedly also said were nearing a happy resolution – grafted the U.S. President’s Middle Eastern frustration onto a North American landscape.

Indeed, there is a “Groundhog Day” element to the two conflicts, one military, the other economic. In both cases, negotiations are suspended. In both cases, at issue is a second country’s sovereignty and dignity.