Hamas attacks Israel

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Illegally occupied from whom? I’m assuming you’re referring to what’s currently known as the “West Bank” that is a disputed territory that Jordan lost to Israel in mid-1967 after Jordan attacked Israel? That illegal occupation (?) and not the 19 years previous to that when Jordan annexed that same piece of land?
Its not illegally occupied by Israel and they aren't about to be forced to leave?
 
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petros

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No, they voted for Likud and therefore Nut n' Yahoo.

This shouldn't be that hard.
Ohhhh Likud, the atheists.

The Likud is a secular party with a right-wing ideology that advocates for a free market, though it is often a coalition partner for religious parties. While the party itself is secular, it is comfortable with religious parties and has formed governments with them, such as the government in 2022. The party's history is rooted in a secular, right-wing foundation that emerged in the 1970s to challenge the socialist, left-wing establishment of the time.

Secular roots: The party was formed in 1973 as a secular alliance of right-wing parties, and its founders' roots were in secular, right-wing Zionism.

Ideology: Likud's core ideology is right-wing and conservative on socio-economic issues, advocating for a free market.

Relationship with religion: Despite being secular, Likud holds centrist views on religion and state and is considered a more comfortable coalition partner for religious parties than the Labour Party.

Coalition governments: Likud has frequently partnered with religious parties to form governments. For example, the government formed in 2022 with Likud as the leader included religious parties like Shas and United Torah Judaism.

Public appeal: Likud has historically appealed to a diverse range of voters, including secular Israelis and economically disadvantaged populations, and has presented itself as a home for those who feel left out by the establishment.
 

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Ohhhh Likud, the atheists.

The Likud is a secular party with a right-wing ideology that advocates for a free market, though it is often a coalition partner for religious parties. While the party itself is secular, it is comfortable with religious parties and has formed governments with them, such as the government in 2022. The party's history is rooted in a secular, right-wing foundation that emerged in the 1970s to challenge the socialist, left-wing establishment of the time.

Secular roots: The party was formed in 1973 as a secular alliance of right-wing parties, and its founders' roots were in secular, right-wing Zionism.

Ideology: Likud's core ideology is right-wing and conservative on socio-economic issues, advocating for a free market.

Relationship with religion: Despite being secular, Likud holds centrist views on religion and state and is considered a more comfortable coalition partner for religious parties than the Labour Party.

Coalition governments: Likud has frequently partnered with religious parties to form governments. For example, the government formed in 2022 with Likud as the leader included religious parties like Shas and United Torah Judaism.

Public appeal: Likud has historically appealed to a diverse range of voters, including secular Israelis and economically disadvantaged populations, and has presented itself as a home for those who feel left out by the establishment.
Kinda like the Republicans. Religious when they can get something out of it.

Surely you're not stupid enough to accept the Wikipedia (or whatever) article on political organizations.
 

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They voted for illegal occupation? Is that a common plebiscite in democracies? What was the final score?
Illegally occupied from whom? I’m assuming you’re referring to what’s currently known as the “West Bank” that is a disputed territory that Jordan lost to Israel in mid-1967 after Jordan attacked Israel? That illegal occupation (?) and not the 19 years previous to that when Jordan annexed that same piece of land?
So When Jordan attacked Israel in 1967 & lost what they called the West Bank to Israel, that they annexed from the Brittish, who took it from the Ottoman Empire…if Israel is suppose to “return” this “illegality occupied territory” to someone/something…would they ‘return’ it to Jordan like they tried to do in 1987? Or ‘return’ it to the Brittish? Or ‘return’ it to whatever the Ottoman Empire (or its remnants evolved into)?

(In WW2, when Germany lost, it gave up about 100,000 km² to Poland…& should Poland return that territory to Germany? Is Germany asking for it? Did anybody from that territory at the end of World War II have to leave what’s now Poland? If so, are they still refugees?)
Its not illegally occupied by Israel and they aren't about to be forced to leave?
Illegally occupied from whom? Who is going to ‘force’ them to move?
Anybody else named in this ICC war crimes complaint?
Nope. Just Israelis.
Well, after 10.7.2023, that’s interesting all by itself.

“Statement of ICC Prosecutor Karim A.A. Khan KC on the issuance of arrest warrants in the Situation in the State of Palestine.”

(Several countries recognized the state of Palestine in 2024, most notably on May 22, 2024, when Norway, Ireland, and Spainannounced their recognition. Other countries, such as the Bahamas (May 8), Armenia (June 21), Jamaica, Barbados, and Trinidad and Tobago, also recognized Palestine in 2024)

On May 20th, 2024, my Office submitted applications for warrants of arrest before Pre-Trial Chamber I in relation to the situation in the State of Palestine.

Today, based on the evidence presented by my Office, the judges have confirmed that there are reasonable grounds to believe that Rome Statute crimes have been committed.
Etc…but it seems that Israel has removed many most all (?) of the Palestinian Hamas (?) names off their list. By the process of elimination, you may be correct here.
 

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Gaza buried under 61 million tonnes of rubble
Author of the article:AFP
AFP
Published Oct 24, 2025 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read

Paris (AFP) — After two years of war, Gaza is buried under more than 61 million tonnes of debris and three-quarters of buildings have been destroyed, according to UN data analyzed by AFP.


The fragile ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, which came into effect on October 10 under pressure from US President Donald Trump, opens the way for the reconstruction of the devastated territory.


This will require managing the immense amount of rubble.

– 170 Empire State Buildings –
As of July 8, 2025, the Israeli army had damaged or destroyed nearly 193,000 buildings in the densely populated territory, representing about 78 percent of existing structures before the conflict began on October 7, 2023, according to satellite analysis by the United Nations’ UNOSAT programme.

In an assessment of images from September 22-23 of Gaza City, the UN agency estimated that an even higher proportion — 83 percent — of buildings there had been damaged or destroyed.


The total 61.5 million tonnes of debris is nearly 170 times the weight of New York’s Empire State Building and is equivalent to over 169 kilogrammes of debris for each square metre of Gaza’s small territory.

Nearly two-thirds of the debris was made in the first five months of the war, according to the UN Environment Programme (UNEP).

The destruction of buildings also accelerated in the months leading up to the current ceasefire.

Eight million tonnes of debris were generated from April to July 2025, mostly in the southern part of the territory between Rafah and Khan Yunis.

– Toxic waste –
A preliminary analysis published by UNEP in August warned the debris poses a serious health risk to the exposed population.

The UN agency suggests that at least 4.9 million tonnes of debris could be contaminated with asbestos from old buildings, particularly near refugee camps such as those in Jabaliya in the north, Nuseirat and al-Maghazi in the centre, and Rafah and Khan Yunis in the south.


UNEP also reports at least 2.9 million tonnes of debris could be contaminated with “hazardous waste from known industrial sites”.

The Israeli army relentlessly bombarded the Gaza Strip in response to the unprecedented attack carried out by Hamas on Israeli soil on October 7, 2023, which resulted in the deaths of 1,221 people on the Israeli side, mostly civilians, according to an AFP count based on official data.

Israel’s retaliatory campaign has killed at least 68,280 people in Gaza — mostly civilians — according to figures from the Hamas-run government’s health ministry considered reliable by the UN.
 

spaminator

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Gaza buried under 61 million tonnes of rubble
Author of the article:AFP
AFP
Published Oct 24, 2025 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read

Paris (AFP) — After two years of war, Gaza is buried under more than 61 million tonnes of debris and three-quarters of buildings have been destroyed, according to UN data analyzed by AFP.


The fragile ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, which came into effect on October 10 under pressure from US President Donald Trump, opens the way for the reconstruction of the devastated territory.


This will require managing the immense amount of rubble.

– 170 Empire State Buildings –
As of July 8, 2025, the Israeli army had damaged or destroyed nearly 193,000 buildings in the densely populated territory, representing about 78 percent of existing structures before the conflict began on October 7, 2023, according to satellite analysis by the United Nations’ UNOSAT programme.

In an assessment of images from September 22-23 of Gaza City, the UN agency estimated that an even higher proportion — 83 percent — of buildings there had been damaged or destroyed.


The total 61.5 million tonnes of debris is nearly 170 times the weight of New York’s Empire State Building and is equivalent to over 169 kilogrammes of debris for each square metre of Gaza’s small territory.

Nearly two-thirds of the debris was made in the first five months of the war, according to the UN Environment Programme (UNEP).

The destruction of buildings also accelerated in the months leading up to the current ceasefire.

Eight million tonnes of debris were generated from April to July 2025, mostly in the southern part of the territory between Rafah and Khan Yunis.

– Toxic waste –
A preliminary analysis published by UNEP in August warned the debris poses a serious health risk to the exposed population.

The UN agency suggests that at least 4.9 million tonnes of debris could be contaminated with asbestos from old buildings, particularly near refugee camps such as those in Jabaliya in the north, Nuseirat and al-Maghazi in the centre, and Rafah and Khan Yunis in the south.


UNEP also reports at least 2.9 million tonnes of debris could be contaminated with “hazardous waste from known industrial sites”.

The Israeli army relentlessly bombarded the Gaza Strip in response to the unprecedented attack carried out by Hamas on Israeli soil on October 7, 2023, which resulted in the deaths of 1,221 people on the Israeli side, mostly civilians, according to an AFP count based on official data.

Israel’s retaliatory campaign has killed at least 68,280 people in Gaza — mostly civilians — according to figures from the Hamas-run government’s health ministry considered reliable by the UN.
i was hoping it would be at least 1 billion. ;)