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You're delusional!
From 3 days ago...

A new comprehensive global survey published Tuesday by the Pew Research Center reveals widespread negative sentiment toward Israel and its Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The survey, conducted in 24 countries among more than 28,000 respondents, found that in all but two countries—Kenya and Nigeria—Netanyahu's approval failed to exceed one-third.

Attitudes toward Israel as a whole were similarly critical: in 20 of the surveyed countries, a majority expressed an unfavorable view of the country. In the United States, 53% of respondents said they hold a negative opinion of Israel—an 11-point increase since 2022. In the United Kingdom, the percentage of those with an unfavorable view rose from 44% in 2013 to 61% today.

The data shows that younger people in many high-income countries—including Australia, Canada, France, Poland, South Korea and the U.S.—are more likely than older generations to view Israel negatively. The same trend is seen among those who identify as politically left-leaning, who consistently express more critical views of Israel than those on the political right.

The 10 countries with the most negative views of Israel were: Turkey (93%), Indonesia (80%), Japan (79%), the Netherlands (78%), Spain (75%), Sweden (75%), Australia (74%), Greece (72%), Italy (66%) and Germany (64%).

 
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What the fuck Bibi?

Satellite images show a new militia operating in southern Gaza in an area under IDF control, and a former Israeli defense minister claimed Israel is arming an ISIS-affiliated militia in Gaza to counter Hamas. In response, PM Netanyahu's office said the country is "working to defeat Hamas in various ways."
 

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What the fuck Bibi?

Satellite images show a new militia operating in southern Gaza in an area under IDF control, and a former Israeli defense minister claimed Israel is arming an ISIS-affiliated militia in Gaza to counter Hamas. In response, PM Netanyahu's office said the country is "working to defeat Hamas in various ways."
Like we allied with the Soviet Union to beat Nazi Germany.
 

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Is Hawk Tuah going too?
I haven’t heard that yet, but apparently it’s a 12 person sailing vessel and they keep saying you’ve got 11 people on it, so there might be room? Is she going too? It would help round out the crew like a reality TV show I guess.
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The flotilla is expected to (or not to) reach Gaza on Saturday, having set off from Catania in Sicily last Sunday.1749199721638.jpeg
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Activists posted videos and claimed to be in distress. According to reports, it turned out that the drone was from Greece’s Hellenic Coast Guard. The Madleen was around 68 km. outside of Greece’s territorial waters.🤔
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From 3 days ago...

A new comprehensive global survey published Tuesday by the Pew Research Center reveals widespread negative sentiment toward Israel and its Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The survey, conducted in 24 countries among more than 28,000 respondents, found that in all but two countries—Kenya and Nigeria—Netanyahu's approval failed to exceed one-third.

Attitudes toward Israel as a whole were similarly critical: in 20 of the surveyed countries, a majority expressed an unfavorable view of the country. In the United States, 53% of respondents said they hold a negative opinion of Israel—an 11-point increase since 2022. In the United Kingdom, the percentage of those with an unfavorable view rose from 44% in 2013 to 61% today.

The data shows that younger people in many high-income countries—including Australia, Canada, France, Poland, South Korea and the U.S.—are more likely than older generations to view Israel negatively. The same trend is seen among those who identify as politically left-leaning, who consistently express more critical views of Israel than those on the political right.

The 10 countries with the most negative views of Israel were: Turkey (93%), Indonesia (80%), Japan (79%), the Netherlands (78%), Spain (75%), Sweden (75%), Australia (74%), Greece (72%), Italy (66%) and Germany (64%).

This really isn't a surprise considering antisemitism is on the rise just like it was in the 1930"s and the media is so biased against all Jews, it's not surprising that most people don't actually know or understand what's going on there! The right to survive is at stake!!
 

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This really isn't a surprise considering antisemitism is on the rise just like it was in the 1930"s and it ain't good man!!
First Im delusional but now its not a surprise radical Zionism isn't being tolerated?

It's not antisemitism. Netanyahu and radicals have gone too far. Why on earth would Japanese hate Jews? It's radical Zionism that Japs don't like.

Netanyahu isn't a Jew.
 

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Well, doesn’t look like the Greta Floatilla is going to make landfall in Gaza today (Saturday) as predicted, but at least they don’t have to worry about overflights by the Greek Coastguard at this point I guess.

I wonder if they’ll divert to Egypt, where there are actual ports that they can land in, and then approach Gaza where there are actual border crossing to Gaza with their supplies?

It’s not as flashily dramatic, but it’s a way that their whatever their cargo is might actually reach Gaza if that’s the actual goal of this flotilla.

Currently, Gaza only has a small port in Gaza City, the Port of Gaza.
1749307729019.jpegIt is the home port of Palestinian fishing-boats and the Palestinian naval police.[needs update] The Port of Gaza has been under Israeli siege since 2007, when Israel imposed a strict blockade on Gaza. The blockade was put on Gaza after Hamas starts firing rockets into civilian areas in Israel. Egypt also responded with a blockade and bulldozed half of Raffa to create a buffer zone between Gaza and Egypt.
1749307751401.jpegUnder the Oslo II Accord, the activities of the Palestinian Naval Police are restricted to 6 nautical miles from the coast.
Netanyahu isn't a Jew.
Ok. I don’t think Yasser Arafat was Palestinian, but I don’t think that’s relevant either at this point, & Netanyahu does occasionally wear one of those funny beanie hats, so does that count for anything?
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I will have to look into that further when time permits. Haven’t read the link yet, so I’m not sure which conflict you’re talking about (which one at which time I mean).
Ok. Made it to a Saturday morning. I’ll watch your YouTube vid(s).
 

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See more Hackenkreuze in the U.S. these days than in Germany.
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Had to google that, as I assumed it was going to be some kinda German food that I somehow missed trying in the last 55 years.

Ok, didn’t realize the first vid was a short, & it shows that Bibi a couple decades younger stating that he had no doubt that Saddam Hussein (Iraq in 2002) had nuclear weapons. That’s it, beyond stating that if Iraq has nuclear stuff, then terrorists could then get their hands on nuclear stuff.

Ok, the second video was a short too. Didn’t know. Same Bibi but couple decades older, and wearing one of those Jewish beanie hat things, saying that Israel is faced with those seeking it’s destruction again, and if necessary, they will stand alone to face that threat. Ok.

I’m assuming the implied homework assignment is to look back a couple of decades to see if Saddam Hussein in Iraq actually had nuclear weapons or materials at that point (?) and that that’s the sole reason the the US (& others) invaded Iraq (again) circa 2002? Right? So if disproven that war could be blamed solely on Benjamin Netanyahu, etc…?

If so, then OK. Initial baseline for a search:
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So, spit balling here, but after 9/11, the US needed to stomp on “somebody” in the Middle East to demonstrate their military superiority & supremacy in an effort to dissuade further terrorism attacks…& though 16/21 (so 3/4’s-ish) of the terrorists involved in 9/11 where from Saudi Arabia, the Saudi’s had a lot of oil and where US allies so they where crossed out for the stomping demonstration. Am I warm?
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American & British intelligence where “convinced” that Saudi Arabia had a lot of oil and was sort of their ally at that point that Iraq had chemical & biological & maybe even nuclear weapons (and wasn’t an American or British ally at that point), and that it was located in the Middle East, and that defectors from Iraq claimed that Saddam was a bad guy doing bad things, etc…& that he (& Iraq) would work as a scapegoat for punishing “someone” for 9/11, and it worked so well when they invaded Iraq in 1990-ish that they could call it a win in a short amount of time again.

Oh, and Bibi in that video as a British and American ally playing his role in supporting their justification for not stomping on Saudi Arabia in a “Look over There!!” statement, that I’m assuming also fit into the Israeli agenda of not wanting to keep using their cartoon umbrella against those pesky “SCUD” missiles, etc…
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(maybe it was just the memory of the scud missile attacks from a decade earlier?)
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Maybe Bibi just needs a different strategy to ensure “Peace in the Middle East”…
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So, spit balling here, but after 9/11, the US needed to stomp on “somebody” in the Middle East to demonstrate their military superiority & supremacy in an effort to dissuade further terrorism attacks…& though 16/21 (so 3/4’s-ish) of the terrorists involved in 9/11 where from Saudi Arabia, the Saudi’s had a lot of oil and where US allies so they where crossed out for the stomping demonstration. Am I warm?
Pretty much. We were uncomfortable with how Iraq's power was growing, so given a reason for war, they were a pretty good target for a trim & shave.
 
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Pretty much. We were uncomfortable with how Iraq's power was growing, so given a reason for war, they were a pretty good target for a trim & shave.
I get it. It was a target of the time based on the situation on hand, with Saudi Arabia being a thing that existed, & OPEC being a thing that had to be considered, and still having all those maps & plans on hand from 1990….it sorta made sense.

Somebody had to be an example for 9/11 future deterrent, & Iraq was in the Middle East, and Saddam Hussein was legitimately a world class Dick, and his offspring where potentially even worse if they’d survived to inherit Iraq from their papa. I mean, Iran should be thanking JD Vance right now but here we are. “You’re welcome Iran! That’s your reward for releasing those American holocaustages Hostages after a year of holding them a decade or two before Saddam’s ticket was punched!”
 

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Israeli forces have boarded and seized a yacht trying to bring humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip and detained the 12 pro-Palestinian activists it was carrying, including Greta Thunberg.
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Israel described the Madleen as a “media provocation”, but whatever images the activists hoped to come out of their voyage it was probably not Thunberg being given food and water by an Israeli soldier.
1749472231619.jpegIt is an embarrassing end to a vanity mission for Thunberg, the climate change activist turned ego warrior who has adopted Palestine as her latest cause.

The Madleen is now on its way to Ashdod, a port city around 27km (17 miles) north of Gaza, according to Israeli media.

The yacht is carrying a small shipment of humanitarian aid, including rice and baby formula. The Foreign Ministry said it would be taken to Gaza. "The tiny amount of aid that was on the yacht and not consumed by the 'celebrities' will be transferred to Gaza through real humanitarian channels," it wrote.
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"The 'selfie yacht' of the 'celebrities' is safely making its way to the shores of Israel. The passengers are expected to return to their home countries," the ministry wrote on X.

All passengers were safe and unharmed, the ministry later added. "They were provided with sandwiches and water. The show is over."
(YouTube & Gaza Flotilla crew ask supporters to “demand our release” etc…)

"Connection has been lost" on the Madleen, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) campaign group said on the Telegram app. It posted a photo showing people in life jackets sitting with their hands up.

Israel says its blockade on Gaza is necessary to prevent weapons from reaching Hamas fighters in Gaza.

Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz ordered the military on Sunday to prevent the Madleen from reaching Gaza, calling the mission a propaganda effort in support of Hamas.
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Katz said he had instructed that upon the boat's arrival at Ashdod port, the activists will be shown videos of atrocities committed during the October 7, 2023 Hamas-led attack on southern Israel, which triggered the Gaza war.

After reporting that the yacht had been boarded, the FFC posted short, pre-recorded videos of some of the activists, including Thunberg.
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In the footage, activists say "if you see this video, we have been intercepted and kidnapped" by the Israeli military or forces supporting Israel, etc…
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1749470692242.jpegHamas condemned the seizure of the boat as "state terrorism" and said it salutes its activists. The United Nations' special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, Francesca Albanese, has supported the FFC operation and on Sunday, urged other boats to challenge the Gaza blockade.
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(Has anyone seen a single picture of this sailboat with, like sails, unfurled, sailing?)
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While it’s amusing to see HMS TikTok provoke the IDF into nothing more drastic than snack distribution and a free trip to Tel Aviv, no one should doubt the dangerous folly of Thunberg and her companions.

However strongly they might feel about the current conflict in Gaza, attempting to break the maritime embargo was foolhardy. For one, that embargo is a lawful security measure which is in place for a reason.

We know it’s lawful because in 2011 a UN Secretary-General’s Panel of Inquiry, the Palmer Report, concluded that it was “a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea” and Israel’s implementation of the blockade “complied with the requirements of international law”. Israel imposed its blockade on Gaza, with Egypt’s help, after Hamas, the Islamic militant group, took over the coastal strip in 2007.
 
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Israel described the Madleen as a “media provocation”, but whatever images the activists hoped to come out of their voyage it was probably not Thunberg being given food and water by an Israeli soldier.
The Israelis know how to play the game. Ten bucks says the "Israeli soldier" was a public-affairs officer. But he really wants to direct.
 
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Had to google that, as I assumed it was going to be some kinda German food that I somehow missed trying in the last 55 years.

Ok, didn’t realize the first vid was a short, & it shows that Bibi a couple decades younger stating that he had no doubt that Saddam Hussein (Iraq in 2002) had nuclear weapons. That’s it, beyond stating that if Iraq has nuclear stuff, then terrorists could then get their hands on nuclear stuff.

Ok, the second video was a short too. Didn’t know. Same Bibi but couple decades older, and wearing one of those Jewish beanie hat things, saying that Israel is faced with those seeking it’s destruction again, and if necessary, they will stand alone to face that threat. Ok.

I’m assuming the implied homework assignment is to look back a couple of decades to see if Saddam Hussein in Iraq actually had nuclear weapons or materials at that point (?) and that that’s the sole reason the the US (& others) invaded Iraq (again) circa 2002? Right? So if disproven that war could be blamed solely on Benjamin Netanyahu, etc…?

If so, then OK. Initial baseline for a search:
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So, spit balling here, but after 9/11, the US needed to stomp on “somebody” in the Middle East to demonstrate their military superiority & supremacy in an effort to dissuade further terrorism attacks…& though 16/21 (so 3/4’s-ish) of the terrorists involved in 9/11 where from Saudi Arabia, the Saudi’s had a lot of oil and where US allies so they where crossed out for the stomping demonstration. Am I warm?
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American & British intelligence where “convinced” that Saudi Arabia had a lot of oil and was sort of their ally at that point that Iraq had chemical & biological & maybe even nuclear weapons (and wasn’t an American or British ally at that point), and that it was located in the Middle East, and that defectors from Iraq claimed that Saddam was a bad guy doing bad things, etc…& that he (& Iraq) would work as a scapegoat for punishing “someone” for 9/11, and it worked so well when they invaded Iraq in 1990-ish that they could call it a win in a short amount of time again.

Oh, and Bibi in that video as a British and American ally playing his role in supporting their justification for not stomping on Saudi Arabia in a “Look over There!!” statement, that I’m assuming also fit into the Israeli agenda of not wanting to keep using their cartoon umbrella against those pesky “SCUD” missiles, etc…
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(maybe it was just the memory of the scud missile attacks from a decade earlier?)
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Maybe Bibi just needs a different strategy to ensure “Peace in the Middle East”…
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A prominent Israeli MP said yesterday that his country's intelligence services knew claims that Saddam Hussein was capable of swiftly launching weapons of mass destruction were wrong but withheld the information from Washington.

"It was known in Israel that the story that weapons of mass destruction could be activated in 45 minutes was an old wives' tale," Yossi Sarid, a member of the foreign affairs and defence committee which is investigating the quality of Israeli intelligence on Iraq, told the Associated Press yesterday.

"Israel didn't want to spoil President Bush's scenario, and it should have," he said.
Another member of the committee, Ehud Yatom, said Israel had told the Americans it believed the weapons existed but had not seen them.
On Sunday, the former UN weapons inspector, Scott Ritter, told Y-Net, an Israeli newswire, that the Israeli intelligence services reached the conclusion years ago that Iraq no longer had weapons of mass destruction.
"In the end, if the Israeli intelligence knew that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction, so the CIA knew it and thus British intelligence too" he said.

Another MP, Roman Bronfman, said if Mr Ritter was correct, it meant the government had misled the Israeli public in the run-up to the war when it ordered people to prepare sealed rooms and gas masks in preparation for a potential WMD attack.
However, questions over the quality of Israeli intelligence are unlikely to concern the public as greatly as in Britain and the US. Israelis overwhelmingly welcomed the overthrow of the Iraqi leader.

In November 2003, a respected Tel Aviv thinktank concluded that Israeli intelligence had joined the US and Britain in an "exaggerated assessment" of Iraqi weapons.

In 2002, the former head of the Mossad intelligence agency, Efraim Halevy, told a closed meeting of Nato that there were "clear indications" that Iraq had renewed its efforts to build WMD after the UN weapons inspections were halted in 1998. He also said Iraq had preserved elements of its ability to manufacture chemical and biological weapons.

As for pesky scud missiles, start here;
 
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Back in 2025…Thunberg and others on this voyage of moral posturing may not intend to support terrorism, but selective outrage has consequences. By amplifying only one side’s suffering, they empower a violent movement that victimizes both Israelis and Palestinians.