Hamas attacks Israel
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Israel hasn't been in Gaza since what, 2005/06. So, Hamas & various other "death cults" want to destroy Israel completely so that's a good idea, right? Another holocaust? Jews have been in that part of the world for thousands of years, lost their land to the Ottomans but then got a portion back in 1948 via the UN. They have been constantly under attack so don't you think that there gets to a point that one fights back? Seriously, there are issues on both sides, but it seems to me that Israel/Jews are the ONLY ones who are blamed & are at fault simply by trying to survive!!
Yes, on both the giving & receiving ends of that problem.
How many sides are there in this fiasco?
If Hamas is running their hit&run (back into or under the civilian population) attacks as their primary strategy…who’s fault is it (not that it matters to any casualties on either side of this) that strikes back at Hamas do also include civilian casualties?
In the propaganda war ongoing by both Isreal and Hamas/Hasbulla/Houthis/Iran/Qater/Islamic Jihad/Etc…for various reasons, Israel is in a lose/lose situation.
“What the West has taught Hamas, is that the more civilian casualties you get, the more funding you get and the more support you’ll get. We’ve incentivized them killing their own civilians—by not demanding that they not do that” and it’s no accident that Hamas counts all casualties as civilians…
Why is Israel and IDF backing the sanctioned (by Canada and a long list of others) Jewish Supremecist terrorist organization Hilltop Youth and several others in the illegally occupied West Bank?
Why? Why are they always picked on? Why all the troubles everywhere they go?
Do you have any idea why the UN agreed to creating Israel after years of Zionist terrorist attacks on the British and Arabs? They weren't wanted in Canada, US, Australia, Great Britain.
Go back to prior to WW2 and the Communist gaining strength in the US https://www.yivo.org/Jewish-Anarchism. This spilled over to McCarthyism after WW2
While all that "antisemitism" was going on here the Revisionist Zionist terrorism and colonialism against Arab Christians and Muslims never stopped. stopped. We didn't care.
The Jewish Supremecists weren't our problem until the Soviets started arming the Arabs and Israel did a terrorist attack on the US trying to blame the Soviets and Israel making nuclear threats.
That's when it all changed and Israel became a puppet of USA by necessity.
Don't give me any bullshit about being picked on. What's the difference between a Russian Commie or a Jewish Russian Commie?
Revisionist Zionist terrorism is a danger to global stability.
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Why are they?
Yes, why?
Why?
I’ve heard that over time.
Yep, & we see & hear about it daily from both sides of this conflict and other others.
Terrorism is a danger to global stability.
For the terrorism to cease, colonialism has to cease.
What are the 3 main languages in Israel?
How Many Languages Are Spoken in Israel?
Hebrew, spoken by 49 percent of the population.
Arabic, spoken by 18 percent of the population.
Commie Russian, spoken by 15 percent of the population.
In just this squabble or all of them as a blanket statement? If option two, then coving what time span or backwards indefinitely?
What are the three main languages in Israel?
Ok, that’s two out of three & supposedly the third is your punchline? So you’re saying what with that statement? That Arabs can live in Israel? Can Israelis live in Gaza and if so does 18% of the population in Gaza have Hebrew as their first language? Something different?
Ok. And that’s due to….an immigration pattern? A government organizational pattern? Some other pattern to justify its relevance to whatever statement you’re trying to make without stating it directly?
(YouTube & Military Expert Debunks Gaza "Genocide" - Nick Freitas)
Who benefits from claims of high civilian casualties in this situation? Israel? Probably not, at all…but what about Hamas/Hasbulla/Houthis/Iran/Qater/Islamic Jihad/Etc…definitely! The higher the better!
…& how do you get those numbers up there beyond rookie numbers, to guarantee running up the scoreboard? Pretty much exactly what we’ve seen over the last 18 months.
Those Are Rookie Numbers Scene! - The Wolf of Wall Street
Those Are Rookie Numbers Scene, the exact meme scene - #wolfofwallstreet #movie #funny #meme
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Never ever forget, Hamas is Netanyahu’s baby. Revisionist Zionism the the basis of Likud's vision. Netanyahu and Likud do not want peace.Who benefits from claims of high civilian casualties in this situation? Israel? Probably not, at all…but what about Hamas/Hasbulla/Houthis/Iran/Qater/Islamic Jihad/Etc…definitely! The higher the better!
…& how do you get those numbers up there beyond rookie numbers, to guarantee running up the scoreboard? Pretty much exactly what we’ve seen over the last 18 months.
Those Are Rookie Numbers Scene! - The Wolf of Wall Street
Those Are Rookie Numbers Scene, the exact meme scene - #wolfofwallstreet #movie #funny #meme
Do you truly deep in your heart believe Israelis aren't deeply imbedded in Hamas at the top levels?
If this war ends so does Netanyahu and Likud.
revisionist extremism
AI Overview
Revisionist extremism refers to the propagation of extreme views that challenge established historical narratives, often with the aim of promoting a specific ideology or worldview. In the context of Zionism, revisionist extremism involves groups that reject or revise mainstream Zionist views, often advocating for more radical or aggressive approaches to achieving Jewish statehood and sovereignty, according to Wikipedia and the Institute for Palestine Studies.
Elaboration:
Revisionism within Zionism:
Revisionist Zionism, in its early stages, represented a divergence from the established policies of the World Zionist Organization. This movement, led by figures like Ze'ev Jabotinsky, advocated for a more proactive approach to achieving Jewish statehood, including the potential for a Jewish army and the use of force to overcome obstacles.
Extremist elements:
The revisionist movement later gave rise to extremist groups, such as the Irgun and the Stern Gang, that employed violent tactics to achieve their objectives. The Irgun, for example, openly embraced "political violence and terrorism" as legitimate tools in the Jewish national struggle.
Historical revisionism:
Revisionist extremism also extends to the questioning and denial of established historical narratives, particularly those related to the Holocaust and the role of certain figures like Hitler. This often involves conspiracy theories and the promotion of alternative, often antisemitic, interpretations of history.
Examples of Revisionist Extremism:
Zionist Extremism: Groups within the Zionist movement, such as the Irgun and Lehi, engaged in acts of violence and terrorism to achieve their goals.
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Likud, right-wing Israeli political party. It was founded in September 1973 to challenge the Israel Labour Party, which had governed the country since its independence in 1948, and first came to power in 1977, with Menachem Begin as prime minister. For decades thereafter, Likud alternated in government with left-wing coalitions, forming coalitions with minor parties, especially those with an ultrareligious or a nationalist ideology. Because of the country’s political fragmentation and unique security needs, Likud and its competitors have sometimes entered into so-called “unity governments” with one another.
Formation and ideology
At its founding in 1973, the Likud coalition was dominated by the Gahal bloc, which consisted of the Herut (“Freedom”) party and the Liberal Party (Miflaget ha-Liberali). The Herut had its roots in Vladimir Jabotinsky’s Revisionist Zionism, popular especially among Russian Jews of the 1920s and ’30s. It was formally organized in 1948, the year of Israel’s independence, in the merger of preindependence groups such as the Irgun Zvai Leumi. Some of the groups had been considered terrorist organizations by the British authorities. Begin, a Polish-born Jew, had been leader of the Irgun. The other member of the Gahal bloc, the Liberal Party, was formed in 1961 in the merger of the General Zionist Party (active from 1948 to 1961) and the smaller Progressive Party. Staunchly Zionist, the Liberal Party advocated retention of all territories conquered by Israel in the Six-Day War. The other partners in Likud were relatively small, though they were often influential.
Formation and ideology
At its founding in 1973, the Likud coalition was dominated by the Gahal bloc, which consisted of the Herut (“Freedom”) party and the Liberal Party (Miflaget ha-Liberali). The Herut had its roots in Vladimir Jabotinsky’s Revisionist Zionism, popular especially among Russian Jews of the 1920s and ’30s. It was formally organized in 1948, the year of Israel’s independence, in the merger of preindependence groups such as the Irgun Zvai Leumi. Some of the groups had been considered terrorist organizations by the British authorities. Begin, a Polish-born Jew, had been leader of the Irgun. The other member of the Gahal bloc, the Liberal Party, was formed in 1961 in the merger of the General Zionist Party (active from 1948 to 1961) and the smaller Progressive Party. Staunchly Zionist, the Liberal Party advocated retention of all territories conquered by Israel in the Six-Day War. The other partners in Likud were relatively small, though they were often influential.
As a sideshow to the circus, this might be entertaining…
(YouTube & "How dare you?" - Emotional Greta Thunberg attacks world leaders)
Its amazing how generic the above speech really is.
ROME — Climate campaigner Greta Thunberg and other 11 activists will set sail on Sunday afternoon for Gaza on a ship aimed at “breaking Israel’s siege” of the devastated territory, organizers said.
I guess the above boat will be part of a flotilla of yachts sailing for Gaza.
The sailing boat Madleen — operated by activist group Freedom Flotilla Coalition -- will embark from the Sicilian port of Catania, in southern Italy. The activists expect to take seven days to reach their destination, if they are not stopped. Will they arrive in time to be relevant? Tune in next Sunday! Same clown channel, same clown circus!
“We are breaking the siege of Gaza by sea, but that’s part of a broader strategy of mobilizations that will also attempt to break the siege by land,” said activist Thiago Avila. Trump could’ve done this last month with the Saudi mobile McDonald’s restaurant but here we are. Like & subscribe.
Avila cited the upcoming Global March to Gaza -- an international initiative also open to doctors, lawyers and media -- which is set to leave Egypt and reach the Rafah crossing in mid-June to stage a protest there, asking Israel to stop the Gaza offensive and reopen the border.
Reacting to Ms Thunberg's post, Israel, through its official X handle, took a dig at the climate activist saying that Hamas doesn't use sustainable materials for their rockets, "which have butchered innocent Israelis".
Some users came to Thunberg’s defence. They pointed out that her expression of support was for Gaza, not necessarily for Hamas. One user wrote, “Your subconscious and true ideals leaked. She said Gaza, not Hamas. This says a lot. good luck editing this next.” Okily dokily.
Its amazing how generic the above speech really is.
ROME — Climate campaigner Greta Thunberg and other 11 activists will set sail on Sunday afternoon for Gaza on a ship aimed at “breaking Israel’s siege” of the devastated territory, organizers said.
I guess the above boat will be part of a flotilla of yachts sailing for Gaza.
The sailing boat Madleen — operated by activist group Freedom Flotilla Coalition -- will embark from the Sicilian port of Catania, in southern Italy. The activists expect to take seven days to reach their destination, if they are not stopped. Will they arrive in time to be relevant? Tune in next Sunday! Same clown channel, same clown circus!
“We are breaking the siege of Gaza by sea, but that’s part of a broader strategy of mobilizations that will also attempt to break the siege by land,” said activist Thiago Avila. Trump could’ve done this last month with the Saudi mobile McDonald’s restaurant but here we are. Like & subscribe.
Avila cited the upcoming Global March to Gaza -- an international initiative also open to doctors, lawyers and media -- which is set to leave Egypt and reach the Rafah crossing in mid-June to stage a protest there, asking Israel to stop the Gaza offensive and reopen the border.
It’s not like the above statement is ambiguously confusing, but here we are again still, and the above should be a fantastic media milker and propaganda coup depending how it plays out I guess. Go team something or another!!!
Reacting to Ms Thunberg's post, Israel, through its official X handle, took a dig at the climate activist saying that Hamas doesn't use sustainable materials for their rockets, "which have butchered innocent Israelis".Some users came to Thunberg’s defence. They pointed out that her expression of support was for Gaza, not necessarily for Hamas. One user wrote, “Your subconscious and true ideals leaked. She said Gaza, not Hamas. This says a lot. good luck editing this next.” Okily dokily.
Is Hawk Tuah going too?As a sideshow to the circus, this might be entertaining…
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(YouTube & "How dare you?" - Emotional Greta Thunberg attacks world leaders)
Its amazing how generic the above speech really is.
ROME — Climate campaigner Greta Thunberg and other 11 activists will set sail on Sunday afternoon for Gaza on a ship aimed at “breaking Israel’s siege” of the devastated territory, organizers said.
The sailing boat Madleen — operated by activist group Freedom Flotilla Coalition -- will embark from the Sicilian port of Catania, in southern Italy. The activists expect to take seven days to reach their destination, if they are not stopped. Will they arrive in time to be relevant? Tune in next Sunday! Same clown channel, same clown circus!
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“We are breaking the siege of Gaza by sea, but that’s part of a broader strategy of mobilizations that will also attempt to break the siege by land,” said activist Thiago Avila. Trump could’ve done this last month with the Saudi mobile McDonald’s restaurant but here we are. Like & subscribe.
Avila cited the upcoming Global March to Gaza -- an international initiative also open to doctors, lawyers and media -- which is set to leave Egypt and reach the Rafah crossing in mid-June to stage a protest there, asking Israel to stop the Gaza offensive and reopen the border.
It’s not like the above statement is ambiguously confusing, but here we are again still, and the above should be a fantastic media milker and propaganda coup depending how it plays out I guess. Go team something or another!!!
View attachment 29345Reacting to Ms Thunberg's post, Israel, through its official X handle, took a dig at the climate activist saying that Hamas doesn't use sustainable materials for their rockets, "which have butchered innocent Israelis".
Some users came to Thunberg’s defence. They pointed out that her expression of support was for Gaza, not necessarily for Hamas. One user wrote, “Your subconscious and true ideals leaked. She said Gaza, not Hamas. This says a lot. good luck editing this next.” Okily dokily.
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I haven’t heard that yet, but apparently it’s a 12 person sailing vessel and they keep saying you’ve got 11 people on it, so there might be room? Is she going too? It would help round out the crew like a reality TV show I guess.
Or is there a statute of limitations regarding colonialism & colonization (?) and if so what would that be (?) and determined by whom?
How can Israel play the eternal victim if they give up the occupation and segregation?
I don’t know. Can they? Would it make any difference whatsoever? Give up from the river to the sea? Something like that?
Good question and I really had no idea of the answer so…Google?…& maybe this?
Antisemitism: how the origins of history’s oldest hatred still hold sway today
Antisemitic incidents are on the rise across the globe. To understand this modern hatred we need to look into the past and understand its origins.
theconversation.com
Am I warm in the direction you’re insinuating?
Oh they'll cry that their dreams of Euphrates to Mediterranean went up in smoke.I don’t know. Can they? Would it make any difference whatsoever? Give up from the river to the sea? Something like that?
Good question and I really had no idea of the answer so…Google?…& maybe this?
The mythical Jew, who is the eternal conspiratorial enemy of Christian faith, spirituality and redemption, was … shaped to serve as the scapegoat for [the ills of] secular industrial society…so convenience? A ready made insular population of refugees that somehow remained distinct from other populations and thus suspect?Antisemitism: how the origins of history’s oldest hatred still hold sway today
Antisemitic incidents are on the rise across the globe. To understand this modern hatred we need to look into the past and understand its origins.
Am I warm in the direction you’re insinuating?
Refugees on the run? I think you're confusing the Roma. Jews stayed put and pogroms had nothing to do with religion.
Where did you come up with that crap? If that were the case Jews would have been wiped out 1700 - 1000 years ago by the Roman's, Greeks or the Huns later on.
Pogroms were caused by economic and political strife not religion. What were the Jews doing that pissed everyone off? Existing peaceful in the meadows or ???
Political and economic drivers of pogroms
It is commonly argued that political instability increases the likelihood of civil conflicts, while economic downturns can trigger civil conflict and aggravate ethnic violence. This column examines how political and economic factors interact to drive pogroms in an environment of widespread...
cepr.org
Real history over presumed.
Where the fuck did you come up with this propaganda? A Born Again website it's pure bullshit.
Ok.
Ok. I used Google and just copy&pasted a question “you” asked into the search bar.
Economic & political strife, ok. The Jews weren’t picked to join in based upon anything to do with their religion though? Where those yellow stars just more propaganda? What were the Jews doing (that had nothing to do with religion) that pissed everyone off?
If I copy&paste your question to google, it might lead back to the same site again…
Ok….and that occupational segregation between the Jews (not as religious group, so as an ethnic group then?) and the majority played an important (important, but not sole reason?) role in triggering ethnic violence.Political and economic drivers of pogroms
It is commonly argued that political instability increases the likelihood of civil conflicts, while economic downturns can trigger civil conflict and aggravate ethnic violence. This column examines how political and economic factors interact to drive pogroms in an environment of widespread...
Real history over presumed.
What was this (progroms had nothing to do with religion) ethnic group doing “stuffed in with the majority” wherever this majority was…why were they even there?
Did these pogroms (a rose by any other name…) take place other than in Russia, and at any other time other than that focused on in your link? Could this be a couple thousand years older than what your link is discussing (?) or would that question be leading towards non-real history and more propaganda in your opinion?