Killing kids and raping women are justifiable Jewish traditions. To say otherwise is antisemitic.
Hamas attacks Israel
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Why would that be? Why would they be funding Hamas/Palestinians just like UNRWA & the UN & 1/2 the charities on the planet? That is a conundrum, isn’t it?
An Israel backed Hamas is being used as justification to conquer West Bank and parts of Lebanon and Syria. This plan to do this was published about 29 years ago.
Did you read the plan I posted titled A Clean Break: A New Steategy For Securing the Realm? It's
% real.It's all there. Euphrates to the sea by allying with Kurds, be the aggressor but play the victim to garner support of half wit evangelicals, Resettle Gaza and conquer all of West Bank, attack Iraq, Even getting you to fear Islam to hand over your common sense.
Either It's all playing out as planned or those who wrote it used a time machine or crystal ball.
Do you truly believe Israel funded and backed Hamas without heavily infiltrating civil and militant wings or that Hamas intelligence is superior to Israeli intelligence? Which is it?
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Nobody with a brain in the world wants the Palestinians in their country.
Whose plan? The Jews (?) or pretty much every other Middle Eastern country (?) or is that Israel’s diabolical plan also?
If Israel could control the hearts and minds of the entire Muslim world in the Middle East, why wouldn’t they just save themselves some trouble and just get everybody to like them? I know it’s crazy but it’s a legitimate question.
PNAC crew and Netanyahu. All the names are in the article. You'll recognize them when you read it.
Best version that include audio transcripts in text.
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Why be friendly when you can dehumanize Arab Muslims and Christians and dominate them?
Europeans have a 2000 year old claim to Palestine, Syria Lebanon?
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Forgive me here, & time permitting, I’ll read through the above link & learn what a PNAC is, but…
…not being religious myself, I’ve heard this rumour about this guy, from that neighbourhood, from about 2000yrs ago, initials were JC, and I think his mother was a Jew….& all his homies where Jews, and maybe he was a European Jew….but I’m thinking he was a local.
Sunday school was half a century ago for me now, but wasn’t Jesus Christ a Jew (?) or is that Zionist propaganda?
Anyway, stuff to do still, & I’ll come back to this when I take a break again next.
Nope. 2000 years ago there was the Israelites and Judeans. Jews didnt exist yet. JC and mom were Israelites. 72 years after JC, Romans sent the Judeans (Talmudic) packing. Israelites stayed as Israelite Christians and Torah Israelites and eventually took the name Jews a while later.
Today we have Sephardic (Torah) and AshkeNAZI. (Talmud). Talmud came out of Babylon and the ones the Romans expelled. Its a different religion. Torah Jews are real Jews.
Ashkenazi Jews originated in the Middle Ages, around the end of the first millennium CE. They first settled in the Rhineland in western Germany in the 10th century. (No connection to Palestine and a lineage of southern Black sea people and Mongolian
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AI Overview
Ashkenazi and Sephardi are two main groups of Jewish people with different cultural traditions, languages, and histories.
Ashkenazi
Origin: Descendants of Jews from Central Europe, including Germany, France, and Eastern Europe
Language: Pronounced Hebrew differently from Sephardim
Synagogue: Used the "German rite" synagogue ritual
Torah: Encased in cloth and wound around two wooden sticks
Holiday customs: Eat latkes (potato pancakes)
Sephardi
Origin: Descendants of Jews from Spain, Portugal, North Africa, and the Middle East
Synagogue: Used the "Spanish rite" synagogue ritual
Torah: Kept in a cylindrical case, often plated with silver and gold
Holiday customs: Eat sufganiot (jelly doughnuts)
Prayer services: Somewhat different from Ashkenazi ones
Other Jewish groups
Mizrahim: A term used to describe non-European Jewish communities from the Middle East and North Africa
Ethiopian Jews: A Jewish group with their own traditions
Revelation 3:9
KJ21
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie — behold, I will make them to come and worship at thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Revelation 2:9
KJ21
I know thy works and tribulation and poverty (but thou art rich), and I know the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
AI Overview
Kabbala is a form of mystical study that was introduced to the Babylonian Talmud in the 13th century. Kabbala is a rabbinic interpretation of gnostic doctrines that reinterprets the Bible and rabbinic law as allegories.
Explanation
Kabbala
A mystical study that reinterprets the Bible and rabbinic law as allegories
Zohar
A mystical commentary on the Pentateuch by Moses de León that became the Bible of Jewish mystics
Babylonian Talmud
A version of the Talmud compiled by scholars in Mesopotamia (Babylonia) around 500 CE
What Kabbala does
Expresses gnostic doctrines in rabbinic guise
Devises an esoteric vocabulary
Reinterprets the Bible and rabbinic law as allegories
Reserves access to the spiritual universe for initiates
What the Zohar is
A vast mystical commentary on the Pentateuch by Moses de León
Became the Bible of Jewish mystics
AI Overview
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The English word "Jew" comes from the Hebrew word Yehudi, which means "of Judah". The word evolved through Greek and Latin, and eventually became the Old French word giu.
Explanation
Hebrew
The Hebrew word Yehudi is an adjective that appears in the later parts of the Hebrew Bible. It refers to someone who is a descendant of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob.
Greek
The Greek word Ioudaios comes from the Hebrew word Yehudi. It can mean "Jew" or "Judean".
Latin
The Latin word Iudaeus comes from the Greek word Ioudaios.
Old French
The Old French word giu comes from the Latin word Iudaeus. The letter "d" was dropped from the word.
English
The English word "Jew" comes from the Old French word giu. Early English had many related forms, including Iudea, Gyu, Giu, Iuu, Iuw, and Iew.
Ethiopian Jews Confront Racism in Israel
On Sunday, Israelis of Ethiopian descent took to the streets of Tel Aviv to protest against systemic discrimination. The demonstrations, triggered by a leaked video showing police officers physically assaulting an Ethiopian Israeli soldier and then filing false charges against him, soon turned violent, with many expressing fears of greater civil unrest to come. The demonstrations have been compared to the anti-police-brutality protests in many of America’s cities, most recently Baltimore. But Israeli politicians and commentators rejected any comparison, suggesting that the two contexts are very different from each other, claiming that discrimination in Israel is not nearly as systemic and endemic as in the United States. Yet many are calling for serious social reflection on the matter, warning that unless action is taken to better integrate the Ethiopian Jewish minority, things can only get worse.
The initial response from the government, according to this Haaretz report, was one of condemnation for both the police violence as well as the lawlessness that followed it: “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday in an address to Knesset that the government of Israel was determined to change the situation on the ground for the Ethiopian Israeli community, following days of violent protests over claims of racism and police brutality….Earlier Monday, President Reuven Rivlin said Israel must look upon the ‘open and bloody wound’ which the protests in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem revealed. He made the comments during a meeting with the local leaders from Israel’s ultra-Orthodox community…. ‘We’ve erred. We have failed to see and listen enough. Among those protesting in the streets, there can be found the best of our boys and girls, excellent students and former soldiers. We must give them answers.’”
Despite the anger on display and the grievances expressed by members of the Ethiopian Jewish community superficially resembling the recent experience of Ferguson or Baltimore, Jerusalem Post’s Abramowitz argues that America is the wrong lens through which to see the developments in Israel: “The marches in Jerusalem and in Tel Aviv belonged to the plain-clothed Ethiopian soldiers. Nearly all of them have served, are serving or are about to serve in the IDF. Today’s battle is not against external enemies, but against invisibility and injustice….The Jews of silence today on racism in Israel are found not only in the Israeli government and the police force but also among world Jewry….These rallies by the Ethiopian community should be seen through the lens of hope and not despair; through the lens of Zionism and not Ferguson. There are only about 130,000 Ethiopian Israelis, with thousands of college graduates, near universal military service and now a whole generation that is empowered. There is not a single issue facing the Ethiopian community in Israel that can’t be resolved through enlightened philanthropy and government action.”
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Ethiopian Jews Confront Racism in Israel - Middle East Policy Council
Middle East Policy Council On Sunday, Israelis of Ethiopian descent took to the streets of Tel Aviv to protest against systemic discrimination. The demonstrations, triggered by a leaked video showing police officers physically assaulting an Ethiopian Israeli soldier and then filing false charges...
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Fought through the micro PDF. Was tempted to fire up my PC that I hadn’t started in about a year. Bigger screen, but didn’t bother for four pages.
This is 3 or more decades old, & I’m still not sure who or what a PNAC is, & I’m still not sure what the revelation punchline is.
Most likely this I’m assuming?
en.wikipedia.org
Then the last four posts. Wow, why don’t we just google, “Was Jesus Christ a Jew?”
Anyway Pete, this is feeling like a total sidetrack, but here’s Google:
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
Some scholars prefer translating Ioudaios as "Judean" in the Bible since it is more precise, denotes the community's origins and prevents readers from engaging in antisemitic eisegesis. Others disagree, believing that it erases the Jewish identity of Biblical characters such as Jesus. Daniel R. Schwartz distinguishes "Judean" and "Jew". Here, "Judean" refers to the inhabitants of Judea, which encompassed southern Palestine. Meanwhile, "Jew" refers to the descendants of Israelites that adhere to Judaism. Blah blah blah etc…
Genetic studies on Jews show that most Jews worldwide bear a common genetic heritage which originates in the Middle East, and that they share certain genetic traits with other Gentile peoples of the Fertile Crescent. The genetic composition of different Jewish groups shows that Jews share a common gene pool dating back four millennia, as a marker of their common ancestral origin.
So that’s that! All those Jews are Europeans. Probably Norwegians. The Fertile Crescent (Arabic: الهلال الخصيب) is a crescent-shaped region in the Middle East, spanning modern-day Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria, together with northern Kuwait, south-eastern Turkey, and western Iran. Some authors also include Cyprus and northern Egypt. Notice above they don’t mention Israel or Narnia? That’s probably significant.
en.wikipedia.org
Anyway…can we put this below to bed?
This is 3 or more decades old, & I’m still not sure who or what a PNAC is, & I’m still not sure what the revelation punchline is.
Most likely this I’m assuming?
Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia
Anyway Pete, this is feeling like a total sidetrack, but here’s Google:
Jesus - Wikipedia
Eisegesis - Wikipedia
Genetic studies on Jews show that most Jews worldwide bear a common genetic heritage which originates in the Middle East, and that they share certain genetic traits with other Gentile peoples of the Fertile Crescent. The genetic composition of different Jewish groups shows that Jews share a common gene pool dating back four millennia, as a marker of their common ancestral origin.
So that’s that! All those Jews are Europeans. Probably Norwegians. The Fertile Crescent (Arabic: الهلال الخصيب) is a crescent-shaped region in the Middle East, spanning modern-day Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria, together with northern Kuwait, south-eastern Turkey, and western Iran. Some authors also include Cyprus and northern Egypt. Notice above they don’t mention Israel or Narnia? That’s probably significant.
Fertile Crescent - Wikipedia
No. Jesus was not Jewish. Don't use Jew in your searches. Israelites and Judeans.
Israelites and Judeans had similar but way different beliefs.
Israelite and Judean religious traditions focus on the worship of the deity, YHWH, and function especially as national or state religious traditions from the formation of the Israelite monarchy during the twelfth–tenth centuries bce through the subsequent history of the separate kingdoms of Israel and Judah (see Map 4). Although Israel and Judah share the same basic religious tradition based in the worship of YHWH, each appears to have distinctive conceptualizations of YHWH and the means by which YHWH should be represented and worshiped. Unfortunately, literary evidence concerning religion in northern Israel is limited, because most of the Hebrew Bible was written and transmitted by Judean writers and reflects distinctive Judean viewpoints. But the destruction of the northern kingdom of Israel by the Assyrian Empire in 722/1 bce, the destruction of the southern kingdom of Judah by the Babylonian Empire in 587/6 bce, and the reconstitution of Judah as a Persian province in the late-sixth through the late-fourth centuries bce prompted the development of Judaism as a monotheistic religion practiced by Jews in the land of Israel itself and throughout the Persian and Greco-Roman world.
Two sects of Judeans
The Pharisees and Sadducees were two Jewish sects that held different beliefs and practices during the time of Jesus. They were both part of the Sanhedrin, the Jewish ruling body.
Beliefs
Pharisees
Believed in the supernatural, including angels, demons, heaven, and hell. They believed in the resurrection of the dead and an afterlife for God's chosen people. They also believed in the Torah as a living social force that should be interpreted accurately.
Sadducees
Rejected the supernatural, including angels and demons. They did not believe in an afterlife, resurrection, or eternal punishment. They believed that life is all there is. They also viewed the Torah as archaic and outdated.
Practices
Pharisees
Were a separatist group that focused on religious purity and observing the Law of Moses. They were less interested in temple worship and sacrifices.
Sadducees
Were a political elite that were heavily involved in political affairs, including collaborating with the Romans. They were priests involved with the Temple, its festivals, and its sacrifices.
Israelites and Judeans had similar but way different beliefs.
Israelite and Judean religious traditions focus on the worship of the deity, YHWH, and function especially as national or state religious traditions from the formation of the Israelite monarchy during the twelfth–tenth centuries bce through the subsequent history of the separate kingdoms of Israel and Judah (see Map 4). Although Israel and Judah share the same basic religious tradition based in the worship of YHWH, each appears to have distinctive conceptualizations of YHWH and the means by which YHWH should be represented and worshiped. Unfortunately, literary evidence concerning religion in northern Israel is limited, because most of the Hebrew Bible was written and transmitted by Judean writers and reflects distinctive Judean viewpoints. But the destruction of the northern kingdom of Israel by the Assyrian Empire in 722/1 bce, the destruction of the southern kingdom of Judah by the Babylonian Empire in 587/6 bce, and the reconstitution of Judah as a Persian province in the late-sixth through the late-fourth centuries bce prompted the development of Judaism as a monotheistic religion practiced by Jews in the land of Israel itself and throughout the Persian and Greco-Roman world.
Two sects of Judeans
The Pharisees and Sadducees were two Jewish sects that held different beliefs and practices during the time of Jesus. They were both part of the Sanhedrin, the Jewish ruling body.
Beliefs
Pharisees
Believed in the supernatural, including angels, demons, heaven, and hell. They believed in the resurrection of the dead and an afterlife for God's chosen people. They also believed in the Torah as a living social force that should be interpreted accurately.
Sadducees
Rejected the supernatural, including angels and demons. They did not believe in an afterlife, resurrection, or eternal punishment. They believed that life is all there is. They also viewed the Torah as archaic and outdated.
Practices
Pharisees
Were a separatist group that focused on religious purity and observing the Law of Moses. They were less interested in temple worship and sacrifices.
Sadducees
Were a political elite that were heavily involved in political affairs, including collaborating with the Romans. They were priests involved with the Temple, its festivals, and its sacrifices.
Still different today.
Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews have different cultural traditions, beliefs, and practices, but they can still get along and be welcoming to each other.
Similarities
Both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews practice Judaism.
Both groups have prayer services with a similar structure.
Differences
Holiday customs: Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews celebrate holidays differently. For example, Ashkenazi Jews eat latkes for Hanukkah, while Sephardic Jews eat jelly doughnuts.
Language: Ashkenazi Jews commonly speak Yiddish, while Sephardic Jews commonly speak Ladino.
Cultural traditions: Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews have different cultural traditions.
Synagogue cantillation: Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews chant differently in their synagogues.
Synagogue liturgy: Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews have different synagogue liturgies.
Jewish law: Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews have different interpretations of Jewish law.
History
Sephardic Jews were more integrated into local non-Jewish cultures than Ashkenazi Jews.
Sephardic Jews were influenced by Arabic and Greek philosophy and science.
It's like comparing Roman Catholic and Greek Catholic.
There were no Jews in Egypt, they were Hebrew. Israelites are post Moses. Moses never entered entered the promised land to become an Israelite. Its was King David's sons who split the people into Judean and Israelites. One stuck to the Torah and the teaching of David, the Judeans didn't. Jesus an Israelite who was a decendant of David who still weren't "Jews" stuck to the traditions.
Jew is a blanket term.
Like Christians, Baptists call themselves Christian but consider Catholics to be Catholic and not Christian. Christians don't have Mary or the Saints and don't do the Eucharistic or follow the original. Same God and Jesus but nothing similar.
Jew is a blanket term.
Like Christians, Baptists call themselves Christian but consider Catholics to be Catholic and not Christian. Christians don't have Mary or the Saints and don't do the Eucharistic or follow the original. Same God and Jesus but nothing similar.
And finally "the Jews" you are familiar with.
The Pharisees were a Jewish school of thought and social movement that no longer exists, but their ideas are still important today. After the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD, their beliefs became the basis for Rabbinic Judaism.
What happened to the Pharisees?
The Pharisees' views became the mainstream view of Judaism.
Their schools and synagogues continued to operate after the destruction of Jerusalem, promoting Judaism in the centuries that followed.
Their ideas and writings were borrowed heavily when Judaism rebuilt itself after 70 AD.
What are the Pharisees' ideas still important for?
Modern Judaism is a direct result of the Pharisees' ideas about the Law and the Prophets.
Modern Orthodox Jews still borrow a lot from the Pharisees, including their strict adherence to the law.
Most scholars and Jews consider rabbis to be descendants of the Pharisees.
What were the Pharisees known for?
They added oral traditions to the written Law of Moses, the Torah.
They were known for their efforts in education.
Jesus criticized the Pharisees for being too focused on outward rituals, rather than reforming their inner selves.
This why Jesus wasn't a Jew. He was a traditional Torah Israelite. Not Judean and didn't follow the corrupt Sanhedrin.
After 70AD Judea no longer existed.
In 135 CE, the Romans renamed the province Syria Palaestina as punishment for the second insurrection of Judea
The Pharisees were a Jewish school of thought and social movement that no longer exists, but their ideas are still important today. After the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD, their beliefs became the basis for Rabbinic Judaism.
What happened to the Pharisees?
The Pharisees' views became the mainstream view of Judaism.
Their schools and synagogues continued to operate after the destruction of Jerusalem, promoting Judaism in the centuries that followed.
Their ideas and writings were borrowed heavily when Judaism rebuilt itself after 70 AD.
What are the Pharisees' ideas still important for?
Modern Judaism is a direct result of the Pharisees' ideas about the Law and the Prophets.
Modern Orthodox Jews still borrow a lot from the Pharisees, including their strict adherence to the law.
Most scholars and Jews consider rabbis to be descendants of the Pharisees.
What were the Pharisees known for?
They added oral traditions to the written Law of Moses, the Torah.
They were known for their efforts in education.
Jesus criticized the Pharisees for being too focused on outward rituals, rather than reforming their inner selves.
This why Jesus wasn't a Jew. He was a traditional Torah Israelite. Not Judean and didn't follow the corrupt Sanhedrin.
After 70AD Judea no longer existed.
In 135 CE, the Romans renamed the province Syria Palaestina as punishment for the second insurrection of Judea
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