Black Lives Matter-Ugliness of Racism.

[Ron in Regina]

Have HR do it, or if you're smaller than that, farm it out. Anybody who can be trusted to be a notary can do the job.

I just like being at a smaller company where nobody really cares as long as everybody respects each other.

I’ve been at companies where there’s hundreds of employees in the system, and you have an operations manual for turnkey that’s less than 2 inches thick, & then you have the other manual that nobody ever looks at being HR BS & it will be 5 inches thick.

I’m in an industry where office staff is 2-3 people max, & 30-ish truckers on the road. I’ve hired black & white and most shades in between…& it doesn’t matter. Hired Gay & straight…& it doesn’t matter, as long as everyone just respects each other.

I remember hiring this couple (two dudes) years ago, & it was funny & fun. Through the hiring process (most of it over the phone), it just kind of came out of left field, where I was told that they’re a couple, & “Do I have a problem with that?” & responded, “Nope, do you have a problem with that?” and that was the end of that, & we just carried on. No big thing.

Helped that they where both comfortable & had a sense of humour as I was teaching them the HOS (Hours of Service) rules for team drivers (they had a 1Ton truck initially) for two different countries without a regulation sleeper vs with a regulation sleeper, etc…with the whole sleeper berth provisions thing.

“We sleep together!”

“Don’t care. Can’t log it that way unless you have a bunk bed”

“But if we had bunk beds, we’d still sleep in the same bed!”

“Still don’t care, but if you had bunk beds your logs would be legal & you could both sleep standing up like horses for all the difference it would make, but your logs would be legal” etc…

 

[Dixie Cup]

Oddly, it's worse, because it automatically gives malevolent racists ammo to use against persons of minority races, even the ones who earned the position/promotion fair and square.

If your organization has a no-preferences hiring, promotion, etc. policy, and can prove it, malevolent racists are silenced (except of course for muttering darkly that the fix MUST be in if one of the "superior" Whites loses). Probably the best way to do this is have an outside agency or office delete all references to race, sex or gender, etc., in records or applications, and assigning numbers as the only "personal identifier."

I must say, I think the Air Force in my day had the best "hybrid" system for promotion. A total of 460 possible points. Two tests, one on general military knowledge and one on specialty (job) knowledge, each worth 100 points. Time in grade, up to 60 points. Time in service, up to 40. Performance reports, another 135, and up to 25 for various medals.

So to do well in promotion, you had to be both military smart and job smart, have good performance ratings, and be sharp enough to get some medals. Part of the system was subjective to the thoughts of supervisors, part was objective to tests and time served. Time in grade and time in service was sort of a tie-breaker. The system produced a list of people, ranked by total score. They counted down the number of people they needed in the next rank up that year, and drew a line. You were above or below it.

Race and sex/gender were not considered.

Everyone loses when it comes to DEI so I'm happy to hear that's being reversed little by little. Oddly, my entire life & those of my friends, racism NEVER rose its ugly head & my friends were of all denominations, cultures & skin color. We simply had fun (obviously in our younger days) and were typical teens & 20's.

So, I'm thinking it's the progressives that are trying to increase racism for their own purposes whatever that may be to simply divide everyone to their advantage. Telling lies about how racist we all are somehow gives them some moral authority or something. Not sure what.

I saw a video on Instagram whereby a gentleman (black) said he posted on "X" twice: one that he supported Trump & the other he supported Kamala. Guess which one received the most obnoxious, hateful rhetoric? It was people who were against Trump. Most people who commented on his post about supporting Kamala encouraged him to vote & hoped that eventually he would see the light & vote Republican in the future.

He's right. Conservatives are more accepting of various views whereby Progressives are intolerant, boorish & hateful. I think it's because Conservatives are a happier lot with their lives, are more religious and have more respect for others.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Everyone loses when it comes to DEI so I'm happy to hear that's being reversed little by little. Oddly, my entire life & those of my friends, racism NEVER rose its ugly head & my friends were of all denominations, cultures & skin color. We simply had fun (obviously in our younger days) and were typical teens & 20's.

So, I'm thinking it's the progressives that are trying to increase racism for their own purposes whatever that may be to simply divide everyone to their advantage. Telling lies about how racist we all are somehow gives them some moral authority or something. Not sure what.

I saw a video on Instagram whereby a gentleman (black) said he posted on "X" twice: one that he supported Trump & the other he supported Kamala. Guess which one received the most obnoxious, hateful rhetoric? It was people who were against Trump. Most people who commented on his post about supporting Kamala encouraged him to vote & hoped that eventually he would see the light & vote Republican in the future.

He's right. Conservatives are more accepting of various views whereby Progressives are intolerant, boorish & hateful. I think it's because Conservatives are a happier lot with their lives, are more religious and have more respect for others.

Canada got rid of slavery early, and never had Jim Crow. So I figure y'all're just "me-tooing" the States.

As usual.

 

[Serryah]

Canada got rid of slavery early, and never had Jim Crow. So I figure y'all're just "me-tooing" the States.

As usual.

Well, we did have our anti-Native drive going on into the 90's

 

[pgs]

Well, we did have our anti-Native drive going on into the 90's

Which one was that ? Did we kill them all ? Or did we settle land claims ?

 

[petros]

Canada got rid of slavery early, and never had Jim Crow. So I figure y'all're just "me-tooing" the States.

As usual.

Is it really gone? How does whitie fit into todays slave trade?

 

[Taxslave2]

Wow, you're either blind or sheltered as hell.

Even I saw racism growing up.

I grew up in a logging camp in the 50s. Almost every nationality from Europe was represented. They called each other probably every derogatory term imaginable, in multiple languages, but they all worked, drank and fought together, so I don't think you could call it racism. There were also a few Hindus. The Japanese were evicted by the government in the early 40s. According to the books I have about the area, that was a sizable number. As best I can remember, there were no blacks. The first black kids I met was in jr. High, and they came from a mining community on one of the islands. That was late 60s, so racism was pretty much dead by that time on this coast. Seemed like everyone else from that island to me.

 

[Taxslave2]

Have HR do it, or if you're smaller than that, farm it out. Anybody who can be trusted to be a notary can do the job.

Notaries in BC are not permitted to offer advice, just sign legal documents. Could probably use headhunters. When I was contracting, I was it. Where I was, the available labour force was pretty small, sometimes you just hired the least objectionable person. Hiring loggers in the bar was a common occurrence at that time. Way different from what you are used to.

 

[petros]

I grew up in a logging camp in the 50s. Almost every nationality from Europe was represented. They called each other probably every derogatory term imaginable, in multiple languages, but they all worked, drank and fought together, so I don't think you could call it racism. There were also a few Hindus. The Japanese were evicted by the government in the early 40s. According to the books I have about the area, that was a sizable number. As best I can remember, there were no blacks. The first black kids I met was in jr. High, and they came from a mining community on one of the islands. That was late 60s, so racism was pretty much dead by that time on this coast. Seemed like everyone else from that island to me.

Rural Okanagan was Japanese gardeners and German orchardists until mid 70s.

 

[Serryah]

I grew up in a logging camp in the 50s. Almost every nationality from Europe was represented. They called each other probably every derogatory term imaginable, in multiple languages, but they all worked, drank and fought together, so I don't think you could call it racism. There were also a few Hindus. The Japanese were evicted by the government in the early 40s. According to the books I have about the area, that was a sizable number. As best I can remember, there were no blacks. The first black kids I met was in jr. High, and they came from a mining community on one of the islands. That was late 60s, so racism was pretty much dead by that time on this coast. Seemed like everyone else from that island to me.

Well you were damned lucky then.

Growing up I remember my mom telling me pretty young that people were people and it didn't matter color of skin.

But I also remember being in elementary school hearing "fight, fight a {n-word} and a white" said by kids. And then there was "eenie meanie miney moe catch a same n word by the toe"

So while BC apparently was one of the only places in the world where racism didn't exist, it did exist in lots of other places in Canada.

Although I don't believe you at all so...

 

[pgs]

Well you were damned lucky then.

Growing up I remember my mom telling me pretty young that people were people and it didn't matter color of skin.

But I also remember being in elementary school hearing "fight, fight a {n-word} and a white" said by kids. And then there was "eenie meanie miney moe catch a same n word by the toe"

So while BC apparently was one of the only places in the world where racism didn't exist, it did exist in lots of other places in Canada.

Although I don't believe you at all so...

That was how we determined first pick and never considered it anything other than a poem . It wasn’t until I was in my forties that I heard this was racist .

 

[petros]

Well you were damned lucky then.

Growing up I remember my mom telling me pretty young that people were people and it didn't matter color of skin.

But I also remember being in elementary school hearing "fight, fight a {n-word} and a white" said by kids. And then there was "eenie meanie miney moe catch a same n word by the toe"

So while BC apparently was one of the only places in the world where racism didn't exist, it did exist in lots of other places in Canada.

Although I don't believe you at all so...

Bigotry. Racism goes beyond brazil nuts. Its absolute. I doubt you ever met a true racist.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Well you were damned lucky then.

Growing up I remember my mom telling me pretty young that people were people and it didn't matter color of skin.

But I also remember being in elementary school hearing "fight, fight a {n-word} and a white" said by kids. And then there was "eenie meanie miney moe catch a same n word by the toe"

So while BC apparently was one of the only places in the world where racism didn't exist, it did exist in lots of other places in Canada.

Although I don't believe you at all so...

I first heard and used the enie-meini with an n-word when I was in grade 1 or 2. Had no idea what it meant. The next year the same verse said tiger. Never knew why it changed. It was years before I even knew about that word.

 

[Serryah]

I first heard and used the enie-meini with an n-word when I was in grade 1 or 2. Had no idea what it meant. The next year the same verse said tiger. Never knew why it changed. It was years before I even knew about that word.

I didn't understand for years either.

Does not make it less racist.

 

[pgs]

I didn't understand for years either.

Does not make it less racist.

Yes it does , if there is no intent to belittle .

 

[harrylee]

I didn't understand for years either.

Does not make it less racist.

Yes it does , if there is no intent to belittle .

KIds will be kids. No worse than me being called a kraut or squarehead because my dad happened to be German. Or the Italian kids being called Wops or the Polish kids being called Polocks., etc, etc. We got through it, had a few fights, but it was what it was.

 

[pgs]

KIds will be kids. No worse than me being called a kraut or squarehead because my dad happened to be German. Or the Italian kids being called Wops or the Polish kids being called Polocks., etc, etc. We got through it, had a few fights, but it was what it was.

And we all became fast friends .

 

[Dixie Cup]

Canada got rid of slavery early, and never had Jim Crow. So I figure y'all're just "me-tooing" the States.

As usual.

Sure

 

[Taxslave2]

Although I don't believe you at all so...

Nobody gives a flying fuck what you believe. I told you how it was where I grew up.

 

[Taxslave2]

I didn't understand for years either.

Does not make it less racist.

It can only be racist if you mean it to harm someone. The same word means entirely different things in different industries. I don't know why, and could never see any connection to race or skin colour.