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They/them works for multiple personalities sometimes. Especially the ones that can change mid-sentence.
Are you referring to DID?
People who have DID can be he, she, they/them or completely something else.
As for "Changing mid-sentence", you mean switching out? Having one of the new parts of the system step to the front? Switching does not happen that fast unless there's a trauma/trigger response and a protector takes the front.
Understanding the difference between a gun and a kick in the balls would solve a lot of things for you.
Crown seeks jail for man who took 'troubling' hospital selfie with dying man
The intended target was the man’s daughter, who only knew of Bubba Pollock from several heated social media exchanges
Author of the article:Madeline Mazak • Windsor Star
Published Jul 25, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read
Describing a London man’s trip to Windsor and visit to the hospital room of a dying man as “troubling on so many levels,” a prosecutor told a judge Thursday that a term behind bars was in order.
Bubba Pollock, 35, pleaded guilty in January to criminal harassment for dropping off flowers and taking a selfie photo in the palliative care room of the complete stranger. The bedridden Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare patient’s family found out about the strange June 2023 visit after Pollock posted a photo to his social media profile.
“He had so many opportunities to realize what a horrific thing he was about to do,” assistant Crown attorney Jennifer Holmes told a sentencing hearing. “But on he marches, right into the room, and put the flowers down next to a palliative, unresponsive man and takes a photograph.”
The intended target was the man’s daughter, Britt Leroux, who only knew of Pollock from several heated social media exchanges in the previous days over area Pride events.
In an emotional victim impact statement read in Ontario Court of Justice Thursday, Leroux said the incident has “changed the course of my life forever.”
Pollock would post his opposition online to Pride events, including drag queen storybook gatherings, and Leroux would respond as a vocal supporter of the Pride community.
With a number of news reporters also present, supporters of both Leroux and Pollock packed the public gallery in a downtown Windsor courtroom Thursday to hear the sentencing arguments of prosecution and defence. Two members of the Windsor police tactical unit were also present and had to twice intervene during disruptions between the two groups of supporters.
Holmes asked presiding Justice Mark Hornblower to consider a sentence of six months imprisonment followed by three years probation. Such punishment was needed, she said, to deter like-minded individuals from taking passionate online disputes too far.
Defence lawyer Ron Ellis said his client believed his actions were driven by “an impulsive desire to win an argument.”
It was only later, Ellis said, that Pollock understood the true gravity of his actions, recognizing a pattern of impulsive behaviour throughout his life.
Arguing for a three-year suspended sentence with probation, or otherwise a conditional sentence with community service, the defence said Pollock’s guilty plea indicates his remorse and readiness to accept responsibility.
But Holmes argued that there was “nothing impulsive” about Pollock’s actions, which has left the patient’s daughter with a lasting sense of insecurity.
In the posted photo Leroux’s family saw of the patient on social media, Pollock is shown smiling in the foreground with the bedridden patient, hooked up to medical monitoring equipment, in the background.
Leroux told the court the incident left her with regret over the last 25 days of her father’s life, which she spent in fear that prevented her from visiting him every day.
In court, she held onto a box of her father’s ashes as she described being diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and being prescribed multiple medications, to manage the fear. She said she has yet to write an obituary or hold a funeral for her father.
Bubba Pollock of London in a selfie pic in a palliative care room at Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare in Windsor. The photo of Britt Leroux’s father was originally posted by Pollock in a Facebook comment chain visible to Leroux, and then further circulated by a Sarnia LGBTQ+ activist as a warning about Pollock. Leroux’s father’s face has been obscured in the circulated pic for privacy reasons. (Handout /Windsor Star)
Bubba Pollock of London in a selfie pic in a palliative care room at Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare in Windsor. The photo of Britt Leroux’s father was originally posted by Pollock in a Facebook comment chain visible to Leroux, and then further circulated by a Sarnia LGBTQ+ activist as a warning about Pollock. Leroux’s father’s face has been obscured in the circulated pic for privacy reasons. (Handout /Windsor Star)
Leroux became visibly upset in the gallery when Holmes described the events, and was comforted by two supporters wearing shirts that read Drag Storytime Guardians. She later told reporters she was overwhelmed with emotion when thinking about her helpless father when Pollock entered his hospital room.
Ellis said a “decision tree” network has been created for his client to contact certain individuals before acting on his impulses.
Ellis told the court that Pollock was “moved” after viewing a CTV News segment showing Leroux’s wedding at the hospital so her father could attend, having gone through a similar experience with his late mother.
However, Holmes dismissed this as a “ludicrous” excuse, calling it “a rotten gesture.”
Outside the courthouse after Thursday’s hearing, Pollock was surrounded by a group of supporters attempting to shield him from reporters’ cameras.
Justice Hornblower said he will announce his sentencing decision on Sept. 4.
mmazak@postmedia.com
torontosun.com
The intended target was the man’s daughter, who only knew of Bubba Pollock from several heated social media exchanges
Author of the article:Madeline Mazak • Windsor Star
Published Jul 25, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read
Describing a London man’s trip to Windsor and visit to the hospital room of a dying man as “troubling on so many levels,” a prosecutor told a judge Thursday that a term behind bars was in order.
Bubba Pollock, 35, pleaded guilty in January to criminal harassment for dropping off flowers and taking a selfie photo in the palliative care room of the complete stranger. The bedridden Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare patient’s family found out about the strange June 2023 visit after Pollock posted a photo to his social media profile.
“He had so many opportunities to realize what a horrific thing he was about to do,” assistant Crown attorney Jennifer Holmes told a sentencing hearing. “But on he marches, right into the room, and put the flowers down next to a palliative, unresponsive man and takes a photograph.”
The intended target was the man’s daughter, Britt Leroux, who only knew of Pollock from several heated social media exchanges in the previous days over area Pride events.
In an emotional victim impact statement read in Ontario Court of Justice Thursday, Leroux said the incident has “changed the course of my life forever.”
Pollock would post his opposition online to Pride events, including drag queen storybook gatherings, and Leroux would respond as a vocal supporter of the Pride community.
With a number of news reporters also present, supporters of both Leroux and Pollock packed the public gallery in a downtown Windsor courtroom Thursday to hear the sentencing arguments of prosecution and defence. Two members of the Windsor police tactical unit were also present and had to twice intervene during disruptions between the two groups of supporters.
Holmes asked presiding Justice Mark Hornblower to consider a sentence of six months imprisonment followed by three years probation. Such punishment was needed, she said, to deter like-minded individuals from taking passionate online disputes too far.
Defence lawyer Ron Ellis said his client believed his actions were driven by “an impulsive desire to win an argument.”
It was only later, Ellis said, that Pollock understood the true gravity of his actions, recognizing a pattern of impulsive behaviour throughout his life.
Arguing for a three-year suspended sentence with probation, or otherwise a conditional sentence with community service, the defence said Pollock’s guilty plea indicates his remorse and readiness to accept responsibility.
But Holmes argued that there was “nothing impulsive” about Pollock’s actions, which has left the patient’s daughter with a lasting sense of insecurity.
In the posted photo Leroux’s family saw of the patient on social media, Pollock is shown smiling in the foreground with the bedridden patient, hooked up to medical monitoring equipment, in the background.
Leroux told the court the incident left her with regret over the last 25 days of her father’s life, which she spent in fear that prevented her from visiting him every day.
In court, she held onto a box of her father’s ashes as she described being diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and being prescribed multiple medications, to manage the fear. She said she has yet to write an obituary or hold a funeral for her father.
Bubba Pollock of London in a selfie pic in a palliative care room at Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare in Windsor. The photo of Britt Leroux’s father was originally posted by Pollock in a Facebook comment chain visible to Leroux, and then further circulated by a Sarnia LGBTQ+ activist as a warning about Pollock. Leroux’s father’s face has been obscured in the circulated pic for privacy reasons. (Handout /Windsor Star)
Bubba Pollock of London in a selfie pic in a palliative care room at Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare in Windsor. The photo of Britt Leroux’s father was originally posted by Pollock in a Facebook comment chain visible to Leroux, and then further circulated by a Sarnia LGBTQ+ activist as a warning about Pollock. Leroux’s father’s face has been obscured in the circulated pic for privacy reasons. (Handout /Windsor Star)
Leroux became visibly upset in the gallery when Holmes described the events, and was comforted by two supporters wearing shirts that read Drag Storytime Guardians. She later told reporters she was overwhelmed with emotion when thinking about her helpless father when Pollock entered his hospital room.
Ellis said a “decision tree” network has been created for his client to contact certain individuals before acting on his impulses.
Ellis told the court that Pollock was “moved” after viewing a CTV News segment showing Leroux’s wedding at the hospital so her father could attend, having gone through a similar experience with his late mother.
However, Holmes dismissed this as a “ludicrous” excuse, calling it “a rotten gesture.”
Outside the courthouse after Thursday’s hearing, Pollock was surrounded by a group of supporters attempting to shield him from reporters’ cameras.
Justice Hornblower said he will announce his sentencing decision on Sept. 4.
mmazak@postmedia.com
Crown calls for jail in London man's 'troubling' hospital selfie case
A sentencing hearing was held Thursday for a London man involved in a bizarre incident at a Windsor hospital involving a selfie
WeirdoCrown seeks jail for man who took 'troubling' hospital selfie with dying man
The intended target was the man’s daughter, who only knew of Bubba Pollock from several heated social media exchanges
Author of the article:Madeline Mazak • Windsor Star
Published Jul 25, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read
Describing a London man’s trip to Windsor and visit to the hospital room of a dying man as “troubling on so many levels,” a prosecutor told a judge Thursday that a term behind bars was in order.
Bubba Pollock, 35, pleaded guilty in January to criminal harassment for dropping off flowers and taking a selfie photo in the palliative care room of the complete stranger. The bedridden Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare patient’s family found out about the strange June 2023 visit after Pollock posted a photo to his social media profile.
“He had so many opportunities to realize what a horrific thing he was about to do,” assistant Crown attorney Jennifer Holmes told a sentencing hearing. “But on he marches, right into the room, and put the flowers down next to a palliative, unresponsive man and takes a photograph.”
The intended target was the man’s daughter, Britt Leroux, who only knew of Pollock from several heated social media exchanges in the previous days over area Pride events.
In an emotional victim impact statement read in Ontario Court of Justice Thursday, Leroux said the incident has “changed the course of my life forever.”
Pollock would post his opposition online to Pride events, including drag queen storybook gatherings, and Leroux would respond as a vocal supporter of the Pride community.
With a number of news reporters also present, supporters of both Leroux and Pollock packed the public gallery in a downtown Windsor courtroom Thursday to hear the sentencing arguments of prosecution and defence. Two members of the Windsor police tactical unit were also present and had to twice intervene during disruptions between the two groups of supporters.
Holmes asked presiding Justice Mark Hornblower to consider a sentence of six months imprisonment followed by three years probation. Such punishment was needed, she said, to deter like-minded individuals from taking passionate online disputes too far.
Defence lawyer Ron Ellis said his client believed his actions were driven by “an impulsive desire to win an argument.”
It was only later, Ellis said, that Pollock understood the true gravity of his actions, recognizing a pattern of impulsive behaviour throughout his life.
Arguing for a three-year suspended sentence with probation, or otherwise a conditional sentence with community service, the defence said Pollock’s guilty plea indicates his remorse and readiness to accept responsibility.
But Holmes argued that there was “nothing impulsive” about Pollock’s actions, which has left the patient’s daughter with a lasting sense of insecurity.
In the posted photo Leroux’s family saw of the patient on social media, Pollock is shown smiling in the foreground with the bedridden patient, hooked up to medical monitoring equipment, in the background.
Leroux told the court the incident left her with regret over the last 25 days of her father’s life, which she spent in fear that prevented her from visiting him every day.
In court, she held onto a box of her father’s ashes as she described being diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and being prescribed multiple medications, to manage the fear. She said she has yet to write an obituary or hold a funeral for her father.
Bubba Pollock of London in a selfie pic in a palliative care room at Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare in Windsor. The photo of Britt Leroux’s father was originally posted by Pollock in a Facebook comment chain visible to Leroux, and then further circulated by a Sarnia LGBTQ+ activist as a warning about Pollock. Leroux’s father’s face has been obscured in the circulated pic for privacy reasons. (Handout /Windsor Star)
Bubba Pollock of London in a selfie pic in a palliative care room at Hotel-Dieu Grace Healthcare in Windsor. The photo of Britt Leroux’s father was originally posted by Pollock in a Facebook comment chain visible to Leroux, and then further circulated by a Sarnia LGBTQ+ activist as a warning about Pollock. Leroux’s father’s face has been obscured in the circulated pic for privacy reasons. (Handout /Windsor Star)
Leroux became visibly upset in the gallery when Holmes described the events, and was comforted by two supporters wearing shirts that read Drag Storytime Guardians. She later told reporters she was overwhelmed with emotion when thinking about her helpless father when Pollock entered his hospital room.
Ellis said a “decision tree” network has been created for his client to contact certain individuals before acting on his impulses.
Ellis told the court that Pollock was “moved” after viewing a CTV News segment showing Leroux’s wedding at the hospital so her father could attend, having gone through a similar experience with his late mother.
However, Holmes dismissed this as a “ludicrous” excuse, calling it “a rotten gesture.”
Outside the courthouse after Thursday’s hearing, Pollock was surrounded by a group of supporters attempting to shield him from reporters’ cameras.
Justice Hornblower said he will announce his sentencing decision on Sept. 4.
mmazak@postmedia.com
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Crown calls for jail in London man's 'troubling' hospital selfie case
A sentencing hearing was held Thursday for a London man involved in a bizarre incident at a Windsor hospital involving a selfie
So the solution, stop teaching just the two genders in middle school.
Oh wait, we can't do that not because it's truth and science, but because it goes against the previously believed Way Things Were™ and we can't ever have that... except when it's approved by only those that matter - what religious (Christian usuallyl) rich males.
There is no Science or truth. Kinsey and Money never were Science and nothing came out true. There is no "social construct".
Only caught some headlines, and I’m trying to cook up about 30 pounds of bones for my dogs…
In the women’s boxing division, two boxers, one super spiking testosterone and about a year ago, & the other failed the gender thing XY etc…
Haven’t had a chance to dig into it.
Two boxers who were disqualified from competing with women at a global event last year have been permitted to fight in the Paris Olympics, the International Olympic Committee confirmed.
Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu‑ting of Taiwan failed to meet gender eligibility tests at the Women’s World Boxing Championships in New Delhi last year, prompting their disqualifications. But they have been cleared to compete in the women’s 66-kilogram and women’s 57-kilogram matches in Paris this week, the IOC confirmed in an email Tuesday.
www.nbcnews.com
At the time of their disqualifications, the president of the International Boxing Association, which governs the World Boxing Championships, alleged that the boxers’ chromosome tests came back as XY (women typically have two X chromosomes, while men typically have an X and a Y chromosome).
“Based on DNA tests, we identified a number of athletes who tried to trick their colleagues into posing as women,” the association’s president, Umar Kremlev, told Russia’s Tass news agency at the time. “According to the results of the tests, it was proved that they have XY chromosomes. Such athletes were excluded from competition.”
Khelif and Lin have both always competed as women, and there’s no indication that either identifies as transgender or intersex, the latter referring to those born with sex characteristics that don’t fit strictly into the male-female gender binary.
Following her disqualification last year, Khelif told Algeria’s Ennahar TV that some “did not want Algeria to win a gold medal.”
“This is a conspiracy and a big conspiracy, and we will not be silent about it,” she said.
Lin does not appear to have commented publicly on her disqualification.
here’s one story and there’s a bunch of links out there, but I’m tied up at the moment.
Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu‑ting of Taiwan failed to meet gender eligibility tests at the Women’s World Boxing Championships in New Delhi last year, prompting their disqualifications. But they have been cleared to compete in the women’s 66-kilogram and women’s 57-kilogram matches in Paris this week, the IOC confirmed in an email Tuesday.
Boxers previously barred from women's events will fight in Paris Olympics
Algeria’s Imane Khelif and Taiwan’s Lin Yu-ting were disqualified from last year’s Women’s World Boxing Championships after failing gender eligibility tests.
www.nbcnews.com
“Based on DNA tests, we identified a number of athletes who tried to trick their colleagues into posing as women,” the association’s president, Umar Kremlev, told Russia’s Tass news agency at the time. “According to the results of the tests, it was proved that they have XY chromosomes. Such athletes were excluded from competition.”
Khelif and Lin have both always competed as women, and there’s no indication that either identifies as transgender or intersex, the latter referring to those born with sex characteristics that don’t fit strictly into the male-female gender binary.
Following her disqualification last year, Khelif told Algeria’s Ennahar TV that some “did not want Algeria to win a gold medal.”
“This is a conspiracy and a big conspiracy, and we will not be silent about it,” she said.
Lin does not appear to have commented publicly on her disqualification.
here’s one story and there’s a bunch of links out there, but I’m tied up at the moment.
Two Olympic boxers have found themselves at the centre of a fractious controversy in recent days, following a decision by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to allow them to compete in Paris.
Thousands of comments - and numerous news articles – have claimed Algeria's Imane Khelif and Taiwan’s Lin Yu-Ting are "biological men" who should not be allowed to compete in women’s boxing.
One video of Khelif fighting in 2022 has been reposted by 37,000 accounts on X in recent days, receiving millions of views. It describes her as a man "cheating in the Olympics."
Yet an examination of the evidence for such claims made against both boxers shows they appear based almost wholly on a single statement from a Russian official published in the form of a Telegram post last March.
While much of the reporting and commentary has described the two boxers as 'transgender' there is also no evidence or public pronouncements that show either athlete identifies as transgender.
They have both competed as women throughout their careers.
www.rte.ie
Two boxers who were banned from the world championships for being deemed biologically male have been cleared to compete at the Olympics as women.
A row has erupted in Paris after it emerged that Imane Khelif, of Algeria, and Lin Yu-Ting, of Taiwan, were thrown out of the tournament last year amid questions over their biological sex.
But IOC bosses said both meet eligibility criteria and will box over the coming days.
Northern Ireland great Barry McGuigan described the situation as 'shocking', while a former Olympian claimed that gender ideology'will get women KILLED'.
The pair were disqualified from the Women's World Boxing Championships in March 2023 in New Delhi, after a series of DNA tests were ordered amid concerns over the sex of some of those taking part.
At the time Umar Kremlev, president of the International Boxing Association (IBA), claimed the tests had proven the athletes – including Khelif and Yu-Ting – had 'XY chromosomes'.
He added that they 'uncovered athletes who were trying to fool their colleagues and pretend to be women'.
But the IBA has been stripped of the right to run Olympic boxing competitions amid concerns over governance and the IOC say all athletes involved are eligible to compete, wih current rules viewed as more relaxed than those of the IBA.
Following last year's ban, the Algerian Olympic Committee hit back, claiming the disqualification was part of a 'conspiracy' to stop them from winning a gold meal and said 'medical reasons' were behind high testosterone levels.
After the disqualification, Mexico's Brianda Tamara came forward with her own experience of fighting Khelif earlier in the tournament.
'When I fought with her I felt very out of my depth,' she wrote on X. 'Her blows hurt me a lot, I don't think I had ever felt like that in my 13 years as a boxer, nor in my sparring with men. Thank God that day I got out of the ring safely, and it's good that they finally realized.'
www.dailymail.co.uk
Anyway, these are just three. None of them seem to agree with each other (news link wise). It’s sort of all over the place like the Israel Hamas stuff at this point.
Thousands of comments - and numerous news articles – have claimed Algeria's Imane Khelif and Taiwan’s Lin Yu-Ting are "biological men" who should not be allowed to compete in women’s boxing.
One video of Khelif fighting in 2022 has been reposted by 37,000 accounts on X in recent days, receiving millions of views. It describes her as a man "cheating in the Olympics."
Yet an examination of the evidence for such claims made against both boxers shows they appear based almost wholly on a single statement from a Russian official published in the form of a Telegram post last March.
While much of the reporting and commentary has described the two boxers as 'transgender' there is also no evidence or public pronouncements that show either athlete identifies as transgender.
They have both competed as women throughout their careers.
Explained: The gender controversy miring women's Olympic boxing
Two Olympic boxers have found themselves at the centre of a fractious controversy in recent days, following a decision by the IOC to allow them to compete in Paris
Two boxers who were banned from the world championships for being deemed biologically male have been cleared to compete at the Olympics as women.
A row has erupted in Paris after it emerged that Imane Khelif, of Algeria, and Lin Yu-Ting, of Taiwan, were thrown out of the tournament last year amid questions over their biological sex.
But IOC bosses said both meet eligibility criteria and will box over the coming days.
Northern Ireland great Barry McGuigan described the situation as 'shocking', while a former Olympian claimed that gender ideology'will get women KILLED'.
The pair were disqualified from the Women's World Boxing Championships in March 2023 in New Delhi, after a series of DNA tests were ordered amid concerns over the sex of some of those taking part.
At the time Umar Kremlev, president of the International Boxing Association (IBA), claimed the tests had proven the athletes – including Khelif and Yu-Ting – had 'XY chromosomes'.
He added that they 'uncovered athletes who were trying to fool their colleagues and pretend to be women'.
But the IBA has been stripped of the right to run Olympic boxing competitions amid concerns over governance and the IOC say all athletes involved are eligible to compete, wih current rules viewed as more relaxed than those of the IBA.
Following last year's ban, the Algerian Olympic Committee hit back, claiming the disqualification was part of a 'conspiracy' to stop them from winning a gold meal and said 'medical reasons' were behind high testosterone levels.
After the disqualification, Mexico's Brianda Tamara came forward with her own experience of fighting Khelif earlier in the tournament.
'When I fought with her I felt very out of my depth,' she wrote on X. 'Her blows hurt me a lot, I don't think I had ever felt like that in my 13 years as a boxer, nor in my sparring with men. Thank God that day I got out of the ring safely, and it's good that they finally realized.'
Two boxers are CLEARED to compete in the Olympics as women
A row has erupted in Paris after it emerged that Imane Khelif, of Algeria, and Lin Yu-Ting, of Taiwan, were thrown out last year amid questions over their biological sex.
Anyway, these are just three. None of them seem to agree with each other (news link wise). It’s sort of all over the place like the Israel Hamas stuff at this point.
Two Olympic boxers have found themselves at the centre of a fractious controversy in recent days, following a decision by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to allow them to compete in Paris.
Thousands of comments - and numerous news articles – have claimed Algeria's Imane Khelif and Taiwan’s Lin Yu-Ting are "biological men" who should not be allowed to compete in women’s boxing.
One video of Khelif fighting in 2022 has been reposted by 37,000 accounts on X in recent days, receiving millions of views. It describes her as a man "cheating in the Olympics."
Yet an examination of the evidence for such claims made against both boxers shows they appear based almost wholly on a single statement from a Russian official published in the form of a Telegram post last March.
While much of the reporting and commentary has described the two boxers as 'transgender' there is also no evidence or public pronouncements that show either athlete identifies as transgender.
They have both competed as women throughout their careers.
Explained: The gender controversy miring women's Olympic boxing
Two Olympic boxers have found themselves at the centre of a fractious controversy in recent days, following a decision by the IOC to allow them to compete in Paris
Two boxers who were banned from the world championships for being deemed biologically male have been cleared to compete at the Olympics as women.
A row has erupted in Paris after it emerged that Imane Khelif, of Algeria, and Lin Yu-Ting, of Taiwan, were thrown out of the tournament last year amid questions over their biological sex.
But IOC bosses said both meet eligibility criteria and will box over the coming days.
Northern Ireland great Barry McGuigan described the situation as 'shocking', while a former Olympian claimed that gender ideology'will get women KILLED'.
The pair were disqualified from the Women's World Boxing Championships in March 2023 in New Delhi, after a series of DNA tests were ordered amid concerns over the sex of some of those taking part.
At the time Umar Kremlev, president of the International Boxing Association (IBA), claimed the tests had proven the athletes – including Khelif and Yu-Ting – had 'XY chromosomes'.
He added that they 'uncovered athletes who were trying to fool their colleagues and pretend to be women'.
But the IBA has been stripped of the right to run Olympic boxing competitions amid concerns over governance and the IOC say all athletes involved are eligible to compete, wih current rules viewed as more relaxed than those of the IBA.
Following last year's ban, the Algerian Olympic Committee hit back, claiming the disqualification was part of a 'conspiracy' to stop them from winning a gold meal and said 'medical reasons' were behind high testosterone levels.
After the disqualification, Mexico's Brianda Tamara came forward with her own experience of fighting Khelif earlier in the tournament.
'When I fought with her I felt very out of my depth,' she wrote on X. 'Her blows hurt me a lot, I don't think I had ever felt like that in my 13 years as a boxer, nor in my sparring with men. Thank God that day I got out of the ring safely, and it's good that they finally realized.'
Two boxers are CLEARED to compete in the Olympics as women
A row has erupted in Paris after it emerged that Imane Khelif, of Algeria, and Lin Yu-Ting, of Taiwan, were thrown out last year amid questions over their biological sex.
Anyway, these are just three. None of them seem to agree with each other (news link wise). It’s sort of all over the place like the Israel Hamas stuff at this point.
Well, this is from the IBA itself.
Statement made by the International Boxing Association regarding Athletes Disqualifications in World Boxing Championships 2023
As stated, the International Boxing Association (IBA) feels it appropriate at this prevalent time, to address recent media statements regarding those athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif, particularly regarding their participation in the Paris Olympic Games 2024. We wish to make ...
www.iba.sport
"Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors."
That raises a LOT of red flags. And considering the IOC doesn't let the IBA now run Olympic Boxing... I don't see the issue.
Also, "'When I fought with her I felt very out of my depth,' she wrote on X. 'Her blows hurt me a lot, I don't think I had ever felt like that in my 13 years as a boxer, nor in my sparring with men. Thank God that day I got out of the ring safely, and it's good that they finally realized.'"
So she hits harder than anyone she's ever boxed. Which could mean a lot of things, including she fights different and is maybe better at hitting? Who the hell knows.
Until more details come out, this is just BS being stirred up by people who love to think anyone who doesn't fit the 'norm' of what a person's gender is, automatically makes them somehow the opposite gender.
But then articles like this:
MSN
www.msn.com
Don't help.
"“It is of great concern to learn that two transgender people, men who identify as women, were admitted to women’s boxing competitions at the Olympic Games in Paris after having been excluded from recent competitions,” Roccella said.""
That wasn't and hasn't been proven unless the athletes admitted so themselves - and it's not been reported.
Also, "Algeria’s Khelif, who competes on Thursday, was disqualified by the International Boxing Association last year over high testosterone levels before a gold medal bout at the women’s world championships. "
The IBA doesn't even mention this, so that's a lie that SOMEONE is telling... likely MSN.
Like I was saying above, it’s all over the place, with conflicting information. Anyone on any side of the issue can find a current news story to back up their opinion. No idea which ones the actual truth at this point. The only consistent thing is that there’s controversy involved.