Good morning (I slept late because it’s the weekend)!!
For shits & giggles if you wanna…
…& nobody says you have to…you could divide them into however many sub categories suites your bias, & if I’m taking the Muslim side I could divide those up into religious factions and nations and national proxy affiliates just to keep up.
We could deal with the here & now current situation, or pull out historical snapshots in time to justify different positions going back to Ugg & Ogg arguing about different sides of the cave (in the Middle East, of coarse) and which one crapped in the corner first.
We can throw out obfuscating tangents of little to no relevance (though interesting & educational both) like the Moslem vs Hebrew calendars, or who decided not to eat pork first…& head down so many rabbit holes that it would make Alice’s head spin like the exorcist movie.
I could point out that my team were scholars while yours where still jerking off their Circumcised Pee-Pee’s and you could point out hygienic benefits and that my team missed out on while fornicating with ungulates…& that both of our teams have been doing what they’re doing longer than the other team in the same place side-by-side but that both of them having being around longer than the other???
We could both team up to slander the British and then both claim that the other is affiliated “more” with the British…or the Russians, or the Martians, etc…
We could both site other religions holy books or scrolls that may or may not mention either team, and the fact that they do or don’t mention them…& then argue that the teams had different names at different times, etc…which still would have no bearing on the current situation but we confuse the issue even further that way.
This is sounding way more complicated the more I think about it with the zero boundaries or focus in muddling the issues without focusing on the here & now solutions but it would keep the debate “traditional” to the “my dads bigger than your dad”….I mean “my teams been here longer than your team” type arguments.
Then I could accuse your team of using the blood of children in rituals, and you can accuse my team of just conjugating with them…& Neither tangent would have a bearing on the current situation, but it would add colour.
We could both accuse each other’s teams of being the colonizer blah blah blah settler current lefty babble speak even though they’ve both been in the same region for 3000-ish years… and then we can both accuse each other’s teams of parachuting in reinforcements from other parts of the planet, be it Egypt or Germany or Syria or Russia or other locations we make up or discover along the way.
We could argue that each others team is more hated globally, but our own teams deal with more hardship than the others, and it still would not deal with the current situation, but it would help others not directly involved to pick a side and throw in their own confusion and confusing tangents and misinformation.
(Geez…this might have to wait until I’m fully retired in another decade just so I can keep up or try to)
If we do try this, and with me taking team Muslim/Hamas/Palestine/Iran/Hezbolla/Houthi/Sunni/Shiite/etc…side (pre-planning planting the divisions) there’s all kinds of great catchy slogan fodder for me to throw against the wall just to see what sticks against you and team Jew/Zionist/etc… in this article alone:
Since October 7, SJP has emerged as the most prominent anti-Israel group in North America. A U.S. lawsuit claims it has a direct line to Hamas
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“Every Palestinian is a civilian even if they hold arms, A settler is an aggressor, a soldier, and an occupier even if they are lounging on our occupied beaches.”
“We reject the distinction between ‘civilian’ and ‘militant.’ We reject the distinction between ‘settler’ and ‘soldier.'”
“From the river to the sea, I got a burning in my….wait…Free Palestine!! Wahoo!! Free Palestine! Did I mention Free Palestine yet?”