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Serryah

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The whole thing is B.S. That's not what he said & it's been debunked. People just aren't LISTENING anymore!

Except it isn't BS and if you actually watch the video, he says it.

And the transcript...


"The problem with transgenderism is that it isn't true. The problem with transgenderism is that it puts forward a delusional vision of human nature that denies the reality and importance of sexual difference and complementarity. The problem with transgenderism is that its acceptance at any level necessarily entails the complete destruction of women's bathrooms, women's sports, all of the specific rights and spaces that women currently enjoy. There can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism, it is all or nothing. If transgenderism is true, if men really can become women, then it's true for everybody of all ages. If transgenderism is false, as it is, if men really can't become women, as they cannot, then it's false for everybody too. And if it's false, then we should not indulge it, especially since that indulgence requires taking away the rights and customs of so many people. If it is false, then for the good of society and especially for the good of the poor people who have fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely. The whole preposterous ideology, at every level."


So... will you apologize for supporting/defending this POS?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I recollect a trans woman I used to see at one of the food trucks near my office. She'd usually wear black slacks and a pastel shirt that would not look out of place on a man or a woman, pink or light blue; light makeup, and a short hairstyle. Quiet, intelligent from what I could see, troubling nobody and harming none.

I'm sure our resident conservatives would claim she "had it coming" if some drunken thugs Matthew Sheperded her.
 

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Except it isn't BS and if you actually watch the video, he says it.

And the transcript...


"The problem with transgenderism is that it isn't true. The problem with transgenderism is that it puts forward a delusional vision of human nature that denies the reality and importance of sexual difference and complementarity. The problem with transgenderism is that its acceptance at any level necessarily entails the complete destruction of women's bathrooms, women's sports, all of the specific rights and spaces that women currently enjoy. There can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism, it is all or nothing. If transgenderism is true, if men really can become women, then it's true for everybody of all ages. If transgenderism is false, as it is, if men really can't become women, as they cannot, then it's false for everybody too. And if it's false, then we should not indulge it, especially since that indulgence requires taking away the rights and customs of so many people. If it is false, then for the good of society and especially for the good of the poor people who have fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely. The whole preposterous ideology, at every level."


So... will you apologize for supporting/defending this POS?
Except it isn't BS and if you actually watch the video, he says it.

And the transcript...


"The problem with transgenderism is that it isn't true. The problem with transgenderism is that it puts forward a delusional vision of human nature that denies the reality and importance of sexual difference and complementarity. The problem with transgenderism is that its acceptance at any level necessarily entails the complete destruction of women's bathrooms, women's sports, all of the specific rights and spaces that women currently enjoy. There can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism, it is all or nothing. If transgenderism is true, if men really can become women, then it's true for everybody of all ages. If transgenderism is false, as it is, if men really can't become women, as they cannot, then it's false for everybody too. And if it's false, then we should not indulge it, especially since that indulgence requires taking away the rights and customs of so many people. If it is false, then for the good of society and especially for the good of the poor people who have fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely. The whole preposterous ideology, at every level."


So... will you apologize for supporting/defending this POS?
No I won't apologize. Transgenderism ISN'T true - it's a false narrative unfortunately. What a person does is up to them. The issue I have is the fierce implementation of such ridiculous ideas & the fact that these people want to FORCE others to accept them.

I refuse to accept something that is simply not true & I refuse to accept compliance of said stupidity. If you want to believe in stuff that's not true, go for it. Just don't force me to comply with your supposed ideals. I will not comply! So shoot me! LOL
 
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petros

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No I won't apologize. Transgenderism ISN'T true - it's a false narrative unfortunately. What a person does is up to them. The issue I have is the fierce implementation of such ridiculous ideas & the fact that these people want to FORCE others to accept them.

I refuse to accept something that is simply not true & I refuse to accept compliance of said stupidity. If you want to believe in stuff that's not true, go for it. Just don't force me to comply with your supposed ideals. I will not comply! So shoot me! LOL
Uh oh...here comes Jesus.
 

petros

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I recollect a trans woman I used to see at one of the food trucks near my office. She'd usually wear black slacks and a pastel shirt that would not look out of place on a man or a woman, pink or light blue; light makeup, and a short hairstyle. Quiet, intelligent from what I could see, troubling nobody and harming none.

I'm sure our resident conservatives would claim she "had it coming" if some drunken thugs Matthew Sheperded her.
Yup. All was fine. Nobody made a big stink about it or even noticed.

What happened?
 

Serryah

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I recollect a trans woman I used to see at one of the food trucks near my office. She'd usually wear black slacks and a pastel shirt that would not look out of place on a man or a woman, pink or light blue; light makeup, and a short hairstyle. Quiet, intelligent from what I could see, troubling nobody and harming none.

I'm sure our resident conservatives would claim she "had it coming" if some drunken thugs Matthew Sheperded her.

Likely, and they'd do it with smiles.


No I won't apologize. Transgenderism ISN'T true - it's a false narrative unfortunately. What a person does is up to them. The issue I have is the fierce implementation of such ridiculous ideas & the fact that these people want to FORCE others to accept them.

I refuse to accept something that is simply not true & I refuse to accept compliance of said stupidity. If you want to believe in stuff that's not true, go for it. Just don't force me to comply with your supposed ideals. I will not comply! So shoot me! LOL

Well thank you for proving finally what kind of piece of shit YOU are.

Trans people exist, have always existed but that you would support ANY eradication of ANY people just because you don't like how they live their lives and just want acceptance... and that you think it's funny...

Go fuck yourself you absolute piece of garbage wannabe human.

I wouldn't want anyone to waste the bullet on you. Sadly, because of people like this guy, and you, too many just might use them on Trans people instead. Which is why you are that piece of shit.
 

petros

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Yup. All was fine. Nobody made a big stink about it or even noticed.
What happened?
Well thank you for proving finally what kind of piece of shit YOU are.

Trans people exist, have always existed but that you would support ANY eradication of ANY people just because you don't like how they live their lives and just want acceptance... and that you think it's funny...

Go fuck yourself you absolute piece of garbage wannabe human.

I wouldn't want anyone to waste the bullet on you. Sadly, because of people like this guy, and you, too many just might use them on Trans people instead. Which is why you are that piece of shit.

This happened. 😱
 

Tecumsehsbones

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No I won't apologize. Transgenderism ISN'T true - it's a false narrative unfortunately. What a person does is up to them. The issue I have is the fierce implementation of such ridiculous ideas & the fact that these people want to FORCE others to accept them.

I refuse to accept something that is simply not true & I refuse to accept compliance of said stupidity. If you want to believe in stuff that's not true, go for it. Just don't force me to comply with your supposed ideals. I will not comply! So shoot me! LOL
You remind me of the kind of jackhole who insists on calling Michael "Mike" even though Michael has repeatedly said that he prefers to be called Michael.
 
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There are two silly absolutes going on in this thread right now. One says transgenderism is a mental disorder. The other says the two aren't related.

This is why it's fucking CRITICAL that people who claim they're trans be psychologically assessed before ANYTHING is else is done. And I mean a genuine assessment, not simply bowing to the activist narrative or some fucked up conversion therapy.

There are people who are categorized as pseudo-hermaphrodites. They are born with the primary physical characteristics of their declared sex but also exhibit the secondary characteristics of the other sex later on. Common examples would be a male with a micro-penis who develops breasts, although not full-on hooters, and may or may not have more of a female frame. Or a female with an enlarged clitoris and flat chest who may or may not have more of a male frame. They're usually taller and/or have broader shoulders than the average female.
When those people are born they are sexed based on the immediate primary physical characteristics, is it an innie or an outie? I can honestly see how they might develop some confusion as to who or what they are at some point. Probably a good case for psychological assessment.

Having said all that, I just ask two favours. If you're going to insist you're a female when you're a biological male, then have the decency to NOT look like a fucking caricature (drag queens) or that you're going through some frat house hazing ritual.
 
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Serryah

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There are two silly absolutes going on in this thread right now. One says transgenderism is a mental disorder. The other says the two aren't related.

This is why it's fucking CRITICAL that people who claim they're trans be psychologically assessed before ANYTHING is else is done. And I mean a genuine assessment, not simply bowing to the activist narrative or some fucked up conversion therapy.

You do realize that they are, right? Kids, if they say they're Trans, ARE taken to psychologists and therapists, and have to have a MINIMUM of 2 years (IIRS) and THREE (2 Psych and one family) doctors to agree that yes, they're Trans, before they can even start any real treatment beyond living as the gender they say they are.

Having said all that, I just ask two favours. If you're going to insist you're a female when you're a biological male, then have the decency to NOT look like a fucking caricature (drag queens) or that you're going through some frat house hazing ritual.

Most Trans women DON'T look like that, but the issue is, if you wait until later in life to do anything, you won't "pass" and that's part of the biggest issue Trans women have. It's why the thought that blockers will STOP the production of testosterone and if put on Estrogen, they'll get the more feminine look that will help the dysphoria and at least make it easier to be accepted by society.

Irony is, trans men don't have the issue, because once a trans man wears a binder, it's hard to tell a lot of the times if they're a guy, or a trans guy, though the T helps.

These things are already done.

Have been for a while.
 

Serryah

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You remind me of the kind of jackhole who insists on calling Michael "Mike" even though Michael has repeatedly said that he prefers to be called Michael.

Well apparently it's okay to eradicate people to some. Guess there are some lines that can't be crossed, but stand up against it, call people out for it...
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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Having said all that, I just ask two favours. If you're going to insist you're a female when you're a biological male, then have the decency to NOT look like a fucking caricature (drag queens) or that you're going through some frat house hazing ritual.
Is it OK if "real" women are fat, or muscular, or wear their hair short?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Well apparently it's okay to eradicate people to some. Guess there are some lines that can't be crossed, but stand up against it, call people out for it...
Yep, from little children chanting "Georgie-Porgy" at a kid named George to Real Men who deny Richard his preference to be called Richard, not Rick, it's basic bullying. Weak minds and terrified souls.
 

petros

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It's why the thought that blockers will STOP the production of testosterone and if put on Estrogen, they'll get the more feminine look that will help the dysphoria and at least make it easier to be accepted by society.
Lets get this right. You have a body everyone accepts but then after the modifications acceptance goes South? Even after modification its still the same body.

Whats the point?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Yes its okay. 60% of American women are obese and after 50, women look like men. Maybe some should just wait
Boob jobs?

Just trying to get a feel for exactly what kinds of body modification are OK, and what kinds you want to relegate people to second-class citizenship for.