WE really need to get rid of this guy

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Trudeau also denied claims from Global News last year that he had been briefed by Canadian intelligence officials about allegations of federal election candidates having received funds from Beijing in the 2019 election.
Well, that's entirely possible. I mean, c'mon, can you imagine True Dope listening to and comprehending a CSIS briefing without finger puppets?

Maybe it would help if we lent you the Catheter Cowboy. . .
 

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Well, that's entirely possible. I mean, c'mon, can you imagine True Dope listening to and comprehending a CSIS briefing without finger puppets?

Maybe it would help if we lent you the Catheter Cowboy. . .
It’s really hard to site-specifics when the public is being kept in the dark on the matter, as well as those outside of the liberal cabinet from the sounds of things.
 

Ron in Regina

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Heck, any PM who denies being briefed on such a critical matter to his country is utterly unfit for the job.

Like we didn't already know that.
I have not been briefed on the subject, but I can say that some of the leaked facts are inaccurate, but I can’t tell you which due to privacy, but I can’t tell you who’s privacy because of confidentialities, and I can’t tell you who’s confidentialities because I haven’t been briefed. That is all.”

Much like SNC-Lavatory, there’s smoke and denials at this point….but it’s obscuring the flame’s themselves. Still like SNC-Lavalamp, I’m expecting more to trickle out and a couple MP’s (I’m assuming a couple women because that’s the pattern and it’s 2015-ish) to get thrown under assorted busses, while Trudeau skates like a snail down a pain of glass, again. Waiting somewhat patiently…
 

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"...he had been briefed by Canadian intelligence officials about allegations of federal election candidates having received funds from Beijing in the 2019 election."

Trudeau lies like a sidewalk so why should we believe him over CSIS? Why would CSIS lie?
 

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"...he had been briefed by Canadian intelligence officials about allegations of federal election candidates having received funds from Beijing in the 2019 election."

Trudeau lies like a sidewalk so why should we believe him over CSIS? Why would CSIS lie?
Neither one can be totally trusted.
 
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Can you imagine the uproar if the determination was made they were helping Conservatives get elected? He may even invoke the Emergencies Act.
Every day all day worse and more intense than Duffey paying back the money or Bev Oda drinking orange juice .
 

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Chairman Xi, president of Communist China, by the ministrations and covert influencing of his abundant agents and money, did not — repeat, did not — affect the overall — repeat, overall — results of a couple of federal Canadian elections.

Among other authorities, the sage panel of CBC’s Power & Politics, with special guest Amanda (close friend of, and receiver of contracts from, Liberal cabinet minister Mary Ng) Alvaro concluded just that in an edition of that illustrious oracle this week. There is no deeper well from which to draw the waters of political insight than some CBC panel shows.

Alvaro’s is just the voice, and her voice is just the channel, for making assessments of Chinese government interference into the integrity of elections that produced Liberal governments. Some of her closest contract-awarding friends are members of that Liberal government.

Back to the main point. Whatever Xi Jinping was attempting, he did not obtain through his wickedness and wiles the stated result. The minority Liberal government came about because of other factors, other reasons.

Therefore, as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has stated, our elections retained their integrity. Overall, all was fine. A few districts may have fallen to “outside” interference, but the full game was clear and clean. Overall, all was fine.

Yea, Canadian democracy. Are there not balloons to release (or shoot down) and fireworks to let off?

Now, there may have been a few ridings that got bent. A few particular contests that got twisted. There may be some MPs in Parliament who would not be in Parliament without the Communist Chinese government’s “meddling” (this is the Canadian government’s own soft word for foreign interference from the largest dictatorship on the globe). But this is trivial stuff. Who cares? A meddle is a nothing-burger.

And if a prime minister, or a conflict-of-interest recipient on a CBC panel, is at pains to tell you that because the “overall” election retained its “integrity” when 11 districts with large Chinese-Canadian populations were targeted to help the Liberals and hurt the Tories, well, I think Mr. Trudeau, and perhaps even a Liberal-party contract-receiving handmaiden (Margaret Atwood’s term) might choose a stronger term than “meddling.”

We would expect a far more vociferous condemnation than we have heard from either the windmill himself, or the blade of subsidized grass beneath. In more familiar terms, from the organ grinder of the dancing simian.

Chinese authorities were involved in Canadians’ electoral choices. That should never happen. To question that attempt at subverting Canadians in their democratic choice is not “Trump-type” politics, despite what one Liberal MP said. That’s a fool’s evasion. No vote anywhere, in any riding, in any province, should be influenced or twisted by any outside power — ever — to any large or small effect for any reason.

We should not allow even “bits” of our country to be messed with in its most fundamental democratic exercise. Every riding deserves a just election.

And for any government apologist to use the battering-ram phrase of “Trump-type tactics” to excuse the Liberal government’s slackness, lack of diligence, and its blasé response — “Hey, the overall result was good” — is, and I choose this word, despicable.

(Merriam-Webster: Despicable: deserving to be despised; so worthless or obnoxious as to rouse moral indignation)
 

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Same as "Communist China." The Communist Party is in charge of China. The Liberal Party is in charge of Canada. Hence "Liberal Canada."
China has been “Communist China” for more than seven decades, & the Communist Gov’t isn’t going to get voted out periodically, so that’s a bit misleading, isn’t it?

So by your definition, Canada is “Liberal Canada” from the Spring of 2015 (when it last had a balanced budget) to the present (or 2025 unless Jagmeet decides otherwise?), so what was Canada from 2006 until the Spring of 2015?
So. . . Liberal Canada is saved?
Define “Liberal Canada” & will try to honestly answer, or at least offer an opinion.
Could you expand upon the definition of “Liberal Canada” to account for the times that the Liberal Party isn’t in charge (?) for clarity?
 

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China has been “Communist China” for more than seven decades, & the Communist Gov’t isn’t going to get voted out periodically, so that’s a bit misleading, isn’t it?

So by your definition, Canada is “Liberal Canada” from the Spring of 2015 (when it last had a balanced budget) to the present (or 2025 unless Jagmeet decides otherwise?), so what was Canada from 2006 until the Spring of 2015?


Could you expand upon the definition of “Liberal Canada” to account for the times that the Liberal Party isn’t in charge (?) for clarity?
Slap down .
 
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Chairman Xi, president of Communist China, by the ministrations and covert influencing of his abundant agents and money, did not — repeat, did not — affect the overall — repeat, overall — results of a couple of federal Canadian elections.

Among other authorities, the sage panel of CBC’s Power & Politics, with special guest Amanda (close friend of, and receiver of contracts from, Liberal cabinet minister Mary Ng) Alvaro concluded just that in an edition of that illustrious oracle this week. There is no deeper well from which to draw the waters of political insight than some CBC panel shows.

Alvaro’s is just the voice, and her voice is just the channel, for making assessments of Chinese government interference into the integrity of elections that produced Liberal governments. Some of her closest contract-awarding friends are members of that Liberal government.

Back to the main point. Whatever Xi Jinping was attempting, he did not obtain through his wickedness and wiles the stated result. The minority Liberal government came about because of other factors, other reasons.

Therefore, as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has stated, our elections retained their integrity. Overall, all was fine. A few districts may have fallen to “outside” interference, but the full game was clear and clean. Overall, all was fine.

Yea, Canadian democracy. Are there not balloons to release (or shoot down) and fireworks to let off?

Now, there may have been a few ridings that got bent. A few particular contests that got twisted. There may be some MPs in Parliament who would not be in Parliament without the Communist Chinese government’s “meddling” (this is the Canadian government’s own soft word for foreign interference from the largest dictatorship on the globe). But this is trivial stuff. Who cares? A meddle is a nothing-burger.

And if a prime minister, or a conflict-of-interest recipient on a CBC panel, is at pains to tell you that because the “overall” election retained its “integrity” when 11 districts with large Chinese-Canadian populations were targeted to help the Liberals and hurt the Tories, well, I think Mr. Trudeau, and perhaps even a Liberal-party contract-receiving handmaiden (Margaret Atwood’s term) might choose a stronger term than “meddling.”

We would expect a far more vociferous condemnation than we have heard from either the windmill himself, or the blade of subsidized grass beneath. In more familiar terms, from the organ grinder of the dancing simian.

Chinese authorities were involved in Canadians’ electoral choices. That should never happen. To question that attempt at subverting Canadians in their democratic choice is not “Trump-type” politics, despite what one Liberal MP said. That’s a fool’s evasion. No vote anywhere, in any riding, in any province, should be influenced or twisted by any outside power — ever — to any large or small effect for any reason.

We should not allow even “bits” of our country to be messed with in its most fundamental democratic exercise. Every riding deserves a just election.

And for any government apologist to use the battering-ram phrase of “Trump-type tactics” to excuse the Liberal government’s slackness, lack of diligence, and its blasé response — “Hey, the overall result was good” — is, and I choose this word, despicable.

(Merriam-Webster: Despicable: deserving to be despised; so worthless or obnoxious as to rouse moral indignation)
Well if CBC says so….
We know it is bullshit.
 
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