Very proper. I called the King of the Chimps, and he accepted your gracious apology.
A reminder on how Harper handled the G20 protest in Toronto
- Thread starter mentalfloss
- Start date
Just everything that sails over your head, which is pretty much everything.
You know what was hilarious about this thread, Flossie? In a desperate attempt to justify Groper busting out the Emergencies Act on relatively peaceful protestors in Ottawa, you had to whatabout so badly you needed to create an entire thread to go, "but...but...whataboutHarper."
Question. Did Harper start doxxing those who took part in the G20 protest? No? No freezing of their personal assets and shit huh? Create an "enemies of the govt" list? I guess you don't think a democracy should allow protests against the govt? Well unless it's a Conservative govt, then it's game on, right?
It's garbage like you that is what's wrong with Canada. It's garbage like you that keeps electing the little turd-o.
Meh, what the fuck should anyone expect from a partisan shit pump who whined about 39.6% not being a majority when Harper won but thinks Groper's 33.12% in the last election is a clear mandate for him to act like a dictator.
At every level Groper and gang have failed to deliver ANY legally compelling reason to bust out the Emergencies Act on mostly peaceful protestors. They have NO authority to go after those that protested in Ottawa in a punitive manner such as seizing of assets. That's what dictators do in case you learned absolutely NOTHING from history. They demonize everyone who opposes them, which they then use as a green light to go full authoritarian on anyone who even disagrees with them.
And then stupid fucking troglodytes like you defend it. I mean c'mon dude, you MUST have a twin somewhere because there's just no way any one person could be as stupid as you.
Question. Did Harper start doxxing those who took part in the G20 protest? No? No freezing of their personal assets and shit huh? Create an "enemies of the govt" list? I guess you don't think a democracy should allow protests against the govt? Well unless it's a Conservative govt, then it's game on, right?
It's garbage like you that is what's wrong with Canada. It's garbage like you that keeps electing the little turd-o.
Meh, what the fuck should anyone expect from a partisan shit pump who whined about 39.6% not being a majority when Harper won but thinks Groper's 33.12% in the last election is a clear mandate for him to act like a dictator.
At every level Groper and gang have failed to deliver ANY legally compelling reason to bust out the Emergencies Act on mostly peaceful protestors. They have NO authority to go after those that protested in Ottawa in a punitive manner such as seizing of assets. That's what dictators do in case you learned absolutely NOTHING from history. They demonize everyone who opposes them, which they then use as a green light to go full authoritarian on anyone who even disagrees with them.
And then stupid fucking troglodytes like you defend it. I mean c'mon dude, you MUST have a twin somewhere because there's just no way any one person could be as stupid as you.
It's funny in two ways. First, it's plain old idiotic whataboutery, and second, he's holding up the man he hates with every bone in his body as an example for the Dear Leader.
Yeah, the G20 Summit was more than a decade ago, Justin Trudeau has been the PM since Harper balanced the budget last in 2015, & the Emergency Measures Act you’re trying to deflect attention from was enacted just two weeks ago. I think that catches things up
For three weeks, thousands of truckers and other protesters had gathered in Ottawa and along the Canada-America border in protest of Covid restrictions and mandates. Rather than engage with them or listen to their concerns, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau first denounced them as having “unacceptable views.” Then he demonized them as white supremacists, racists, and “swastika wavers.”
Last Monday (02/14/22), the rhetoric turned to action when Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act. This heretofore-unused 1988 law gives the government virtually unlimited power for 30 days to deal with a crisis. Invoking the law under the present circumstance would require the threat or use of “serious violence,” yet the vast majority of protesters have been entirely peaceful — playing “We Are the World” and waving Maple Leaf flags. Indeed, the government has made little attempt to justify the need for emergency powers beyond Trudeau’s frequent bemoaning of the truckers’ alleged “hateful rhetoric.”
His public safety minister Marco Mendocino stated that such extraordinary measures were necessary due to “intimidation, harassment, and expressions of hate.” Perhaps he doesn’t realize that none of these are listed in the law as valid reasons to invoke it.
Trudeau escalated things further by issuing a directive requiring financial institutions — including banks, credit unions, co-ops, loan companies, trusts, and even cryptocurrency wallets — to stop “providing any financial or related services” to anyone associated with the protests (a “designated person”). This has resulted, according to the CBC, in “frozen accounts, stranded money and cancelled credit cards.”
Banks, according to this new order, have a “duty to determine” if one of their customers is a “designated person.” A “designated person” can refer to anyone who “directly or indirectly” participates in the protest, including donors who “provide property to facilitate” the protests through crowdfunding sites. In other words, a designated person can just as easily be a grandmother who donated $25 to support the truckers as one of the organizers of the convoy.
Because the donor data to the crowdfunding site GiveSendGo was hacked (a cybercrime) — and the leaked data (from this cybercrime) shows that Canadians donated most of the $8 million raised — many thousands of law-abiding Canadians now face the prospect of financial retaliation and ruin merely for supporting an anti-government protest.
Already, a low-level government official in Ontario was fired after her $100 donation came to light. A gelato shop was forced to close when it received threats after its owner was revealed to have donated to the protest.
On Wednesday, Justice Minister David Lametti went on Canadian television to say the quiet part aloud, namely that anyone contributing to “a pro-Trump movement” should be “worried” about their bank accounts and other financial assets being frozen.
David Sacks: Trudeau creates a caste of economic untouchables in Canada
Emergencies Act brings deplatforming to the banks
When these protesters or those that supported them end up in financial hardship because they lose their job, business, or bank account, what will happen to those who try to help them? Will Canadian financial institutions be forced to play Six Degrees of Deplorables? The fear of being ensnared in the dragnet will surely have a chilling effect on the commercial prospects of those suspected of “unacceptable views,” creating a caste of untouchables whom no one will dare to transact with or help. With this open doxing from a cybercrime, they don’t even have to have a yellow star sewn to their clothing to identify then. Convenient.
How something like like this could happen and was predicted in advance can be found at the above LINK.
The Emergencies Act was used over the period of a week and got rid of a legitimate threat to our democracy.
There's not much room for criticism here and you will see that play out as they review it.
There's not much room for criticism here and you will see that play out as they review it.
Do you even know what the word "legitimate" means?
I wonder, because it seems all sides have started using "legitimate" as a filler word to lend faux credibility to their arrant bullshit.
"Legitimate threat to our democracy."
"Legitimate political discourse."
I guess that just proves there are fucking idiots on all sides. Some folk use words like a rapier. Some use 'em like a club.
Did it though? Is that what happened? Was the threat to our democracy the blocking of the border crossing at Windsor/Detroit that ended before the Emergency Act was enacted (?) or was the threat to our democracy the protesters in Ottawa that where protesting the Trudeau Gov’t’s vaccination mandates (& 101 other incoherent things)? Which National Emergency did the Emergency Act address?
Truer words could not be uttered. I’ll use your term “legitimate” here, in that “criticism” of the goat rodeo this whole thing was will get buried and hidden in an unofficial coalition between Jagmeet & Justin to shut down any review of this, from ignoring questions in parliament to shutting down committees leaving no room for criticism beyond optics of it “sort of” being addressed unless it becomes uncomfortable for the Woke.
Even though Trudeau dropped the emergency act just before the Senate could vote it down, he still used it & under extremely questionable circumstances.
I find it hard to believe that the “civil liberties group” dropped their suit. Do you think I can get you to post a link backing up that claim please?
It's only questionable if you have an extremist point of view.
Most Canadians support it.
It was deployed only during the period necessary and in order to clear out a siege of our democracy.
And it worked well to that effect.
They knew this going in, just as they knew there would be a formal review and they were clear (along with NDP and Green support) that it was justified.
The right dropped their lawsuits and that's saying something.
It’s only justified if you have an extremist point of view.
It was deployed under very questionable circumstances in order for Justin Trudeau‘s ego to be sated after waffling the situation so badly instead of either talking to these people Himself or having a representative do so for him if he was too frightened. He was too busy demonizing these people but when they actually arrived he hid under Sophie’s skirt.
Trudeau himself and the higher-ups in his party are vengeful conniving pricks. Freeland giggling during the press conference where she was letting it be known that they would financially punish those that questioned them official Liberal viewpoint was is a huge red flag.
There should be a review but I think the Liberals with NDP backing are going to try and bury it, just like SNC Lavalin or WE or Admiral Norman or many many others…
I Will believe that the suits are dropped when there’s actually evidence that has happened which I really can’t see happening. Feel free to post a LINK. Trudeau only stepped back when he knew that the Senate was going to vote down the Emergency Act, so that he can keep some of the draconian measures in place.
If this was really over in his mind, and he was the benevolent dictator that you claim he is, how come his government is still holding onto the bank accounts, credit cards, retirement investments and mortgages of hundreds of Canadians who participated in or donated money to the so called Freedom Convoy?
Currently the Trudeau government has not permitted banks, pension funds, insurance companies, mortgage brokers and other financial institutions to release the accounts of protestors and Freedom Convoy donors that were frozen after the Liberals invoked the Emergencies Act on Feb. 14. This is as of today being 2/26/22. If this was really rescinded two days ago, why are these accounts still frozen?
Monday, when asking Parliament to approve his use of the Emergencies Act, Trudeau promised the state of emergency would not last “a day longer than necessary.”
Well, for the more than 200 Canadians being held financial hostage by Ottawa, it has gone on longer. That is outrageous enough.
Oh look! A LINK:
apple.news
But consider what Barry MacKillop, deputy director of FINTRAC, told the Commons Finance committee on Thursday. As far as his agency is concerned none of the people whose accounts were frozen intended to bring down the Canadian government or destabilize the country’s economy. On that note, how can you find that Justin-afiable?
(The Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada (FINTRAC), is the federal agency within the Department of Finance responsible for detecting and preventing money laundering, terrorism financing and transfers of the proceeds of crime.)
When the Trudeau government sent banks on a witch hunt through the account records and credit histories of ordinary Canadians who had given money to the Freedom Convoy, Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland said such heavy-handed tactics were necessary because “we know these platforms are being used to support illegal blockades and illegal activity which is damaging the Canadian economy.”
Really!? ‘Cuz the very agency within Freeland’s own department in charge of preventing such activity told MPs on Thursday this was the donors’ own money. As far as FINTRAC can tell, the millions donated in small amounts were genuine, good-faith donations. They weren’t money being funneled from powerful sources bent on overthrowing the Trudeau regime.
“It was (donors’) own money. It wasn’t cash that funded terrorism or was in any way money laundering,” MacKillop testified.
He added, “There were people around the world who were fed up with COVID and were upset and saw the demonstrations. I believe they just wanted to support the cause.” Which, if you think about it, makes the freezing of these people’s personal accounts an act of political vengeance by the Liberals – an assault on ordinary Canadians just because they disagreed with the government.
Politicians using the vast power of the state to intimidate their opponents purely on ideological grounds is far more of a threat to our democracy than any threat the Trudeau government imagined (and I use the word “imagined” on purpose) the convoy posed. Anyway, more at the LINK.
It was deployed under very questionable circumstances in order for Justin Trudeau‘s ego to be sated after waffling the situation so badly instead of either talking to these people Himself or having a representative do so for him if he was too frightened. He was too busy demonizing these people but when they actually arrived he hid under Sophie’s skirt.
Trudeau himself and the higher-ups in his party are vengeful conniving pricks. Freeland giggling during the press conference where she was letting it be known that they would financially punish those that questioned them official Liberal viewpoint was is a huge red flag.
There should be a review but I think the Liberals with NDP backing are going to try and bury it, just like SNC Lavalin or WE or Admiral Norman or many many others…
I Will believe that the suits are dropped when there’s actually evidence that has happened which I really can’t see happening. Feel free to post a LINK. Trudeau only stepped back when he knew that the Senate was going to vote down the Emergency Act, so that he can keep some of the draconian measures in place.
If this was really over in his mind, and he was the benevolent dictator that you claim he is, how come his government is still holding onto the bank accounts, credit cards, retirement investments and mortgages of hundreds of Canadians who participated in or donated money to the so called Freedom Convoy?
Currently the Trudeau government has not permitted banks, pension funds, insurance companies, mortgage brokers and other financial institutions to release the accounts of protestors and Freedom Convoy donors that were frozen after the Liberals invoked the Emergencies Act on Feb. 14. This is as of today being 2/26/22. If this was really rescinded two days ago, why are these accounts still frozen?
Monday, when asking Parliament to approve his use of the Emergencies Act, Trudeau promised the state of emergency would not last “a day longer than necessary.”
Well, for the more than 200 Canadians being held financial hostage by Ottawa, it has gone on longer. That is outrageous enough.
Oh look! A LINK:
GUNTER: The freezing of accounts was political vengeance — Toronto Sun
Remember on Wednesday when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he was revoking the Emergencies Act? So how come his government is still holding onto the bank accounts, credit cards, retirement investments and mortgages of hundreds of Canadians who participated in or donated money to the Freedom...
But consider what Barry MacKillop, deputy director of FINTRAC, told the Commons Finance committee on Thursday. As far as his agency is concerned none of the people whose accounts were frozen intended to bring down the Canadian government or destabilize the country’s economy. On that note, how can you find that Justin-afiable?
(The Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada (FINTRAC), is the federal agency within the Department of Finance responsible for detecting and preventing money laundering, terrorism financing and transfers of the proceeds of crime.)
When the Trudeau government sent banks on a witch hunt through the account records and credit histories of ordinary Canadians who had given money to the Freedom Convoy, Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland said such heavy-handed tactics were necessary because “we know these platforms are being used to support illegal blockades and illegal activity which is damaging the Canadian economy.”
Really!? ‘Cuz the very agency within Freeland’s own department in charge of preventing such activity told MPs on Thursday this was the donors’ own money. As far as FINTRAC can tell, the millions donated in small amounts were genuine, good-faith donations. They weren’t money being funneled from powerful sources bent on overthrowing the Trudeau regime.
“It was (donors’) own money. It wasn’t cash that funded terrorism or was in any way money laundering,” MacKillop testified.
He added, “There were people around the world who were fed up with COVID and were upset and saw the demonstrations. I believe they just wanted to support the cause.” Which, if you think about it, makes the freezing of these people’s personal accounts an act of political vengeance by the Liberals – an assault on ordinary Canadians just because they disagreed with the government.
Politicians using the vast power of the state to intimidate their opponents purely on ideological grounds is far more of a threat to our democracy than any threat the Trudeau government imagined (and I use the word “imagined” on purpose) the convoy posed. Anyway, more at the LINK.